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Which fan should I use in my new 3570k build? [UPDATED]

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April 19, 2012 12:36:44 AM

[UPDATE:Updated wishlist with SilverStone Strider PSU and NH-D14 cooling. Will start ordering parts Sunday unless someone changes my mind]

Approximate Purchase Date: Within the next two weeks

Budget Range: $1500-$2,000

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, watching movies, internet, word processing, toaster.

Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, speakers, OS, monitor

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: http://www.newegg.ca , http://www.canadacomputers.com , http://www.tigerdirect.ca

Country: Canada (If the sites above didn't give it away)

Parts Preferences: Intel/Nvidia

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Monitor Resolution: Don't know yet

Additional Comments: Previous computer is 9 yrs old.

So far, these are the parts I have selected (plus a 3570k processor, not listed in wishlist because NewEgg doesn't list it yet):
http://secure.newegg.ca/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?...


I have a friend who advises me to get this Heat sink/fan instead of my first choice:
COOLER MASTER V6 GT RR-V6GT-22PK-R1 120mm DynaLoop CPU Cooler w/ Universal bracket & Dual Fan
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683...

Two questions:

Will it fit, and still allow me to dual-channel the RAM?
How much overclocking/cooling/noise benefit would I get out of the more expensive fan?

Of course, any other comments are welcome.

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April 19, 2012 12:41:28 AM

I wouldn't buy Ivy right away, wait a few months honestly; and I don't know anything of air cooling so I wont comment on that but again Ivy bridge isn't looking like all thats its cracked up to be at the moment.
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April 19, 2012 12:46:44 AM

The hyper 212 is probably the best value CPU cooler money can buy, but if you want extreme performance and want to reach high overclocks i would go with something like the NH-D14, i got an easy 4.6GHZ on 1.376v on my 2600K with no heat issues at all using that cooler. And that was an auto overclock by my Asus mobo
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April 19, 2012 12:57:23 AM

Delengowski said:
I wouldn't buy Ivy right away, wait a few months honestly; and I don't know anything of air cooling so I wont comment on that but again Ivy bridge isn't looking like all thats its cracked up to be at the moment.


Why? I plan on getting Ivy Bridge in a couple weeks also.

The hyper 212 is great, agreed with Willasap
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April 19, 2012 1:36:52 AM

Willasap43 said:
The hyper 212 is probably the best value CPU cooler money can buy, but if you want extreme performance and want to reach high overclocks i would go with something like the NH-D14, i got an easy 4.6GHZ on 1.376v with no heat issues at all using that cooler. And that was an auto overclock by my Asus mobo


you guys need to do a little more reading.
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/details_ivy_bridg...
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/4621/intel_ivy_bridge...

the hyper 212+ will look like *** on the cpu. it only looks good right now cause sandy bridge runs so cold.

pezonator said:
Why? I plan on getting Ivy Bridge in a couple weeks also.

The hyper 212 is great, agreed with Willasap


its great with a cool running cpu but as cpus heat up the margin between a cheap cooler(212+) and a good cooler(nh-d14) widens.
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April 19, 2012 2:44:04 AM

pezonator said:
Why? I plan on getting Ivy Bridge in a couple weeks also.

The hyper 212 is great, agreed with Willasap



Because Ivy bridge is showing in the few tests done, very high temps with good cooling for the same clocks as sandy bridge. May not even be worth the extra money.

I mean look at the difference the 2600k-5.2ghz @ 75 degrees vs 3770k-4.8ghz @ 97 degrees, unless power consumption is that big a deal for you.

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April 19, 2012 3:06:17 AM

Delengowski said:
Because Ivy bridge is showing in the few tests done, very high temps with good cooling for the same clocks as sandy bridge. May not even be worth the extra money.

I mean look at the difference the 2600k-5.2ghz @ 75 degrees vs 3770k-4.8ghz @ 97 degrees, unless power consumption is that big a deal for you.

http://cdn5.tweaktown.com/content/4/6/4621_43_ivy_bridge_overclocking_with_the_core_i7_3770k_and_core_i5_3570k.png


Well some people don't want to overclock the crap out of their cpu. I'll wait for a retail review before buying one, see the temps then make a decision. A stock 3570k isn't going to be the bottleneck in any system with graphics settings on ultra everything.
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April 19, 2012 5:10:26 AM

dish_moose said:
Get the M4 with the adapter bracket:
ssd - http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

Nice catch! Same SSD, for cheaper, with bracket included? Wishlist updated. Thanks!



Why a different PSU? I appreciate the suggestion, but I don't see the clear advantage of choosing this PSU over the one I chose.


As for the CPU: yes, I'm going Ivy Bridge. I know that being an early adopter can cause some issues, and I may not get as much OCing bang out of it, but there's just something about having the newest, shiniest toy on the market.
I know that isn't the best reason to buy it, but it's been 9 years since I built my last desktop for myself. Forgive me for wanting some brand-spanking-new technology in it.


No one has answered me yet about being able to dual-channel the RAM while using the V6GT on the Z77 Extreme4 board (Incidentally, I now have the same question about the NZXT Havik 140 that hconduc suggested).

Willasap43 has come closest by suggesting the NH-D14, which looks like it is designed to get out of the way of high-profile RAM.

Thanks for all your suggestions so far! Keep them coming!
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April 19, 2012 5:16:20 AM

the v6gt is not a very popular choice. i dont know why but its not recommended much. i would recommend a nh-d14 with the temperature reviews of ivy bridge that i have seen you will need the best cooler you can get regardless of your overclock because if you get 95* at 4.8 your looking at 80*+ at 4.4-5 which is still tooo hot.
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April 19, 2012 5:32:21 AM

I wouldn't listen to any benchmarks until the CPU is officially released by intel,
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April 19, 2012 5:34:01 AM

On the topic of cooling does anyone know were you can get an aftermarket air cooler for a gxt 590 ?
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April 19, 2012 1:09:58 PM

Willasap43 said:
I wouldn't listen to any benchmarks until the CPU is officially released by intel,

Why not? the benches are of the same stepping as the one that's going to be released.
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April 19, 2012 9:24:26 PM

I've changed my wishlist to show the NH-D14 (good news: the website says that it's compatible with the Ripjaws RAM, so size, which I was concerned about, is now officially not an issue).

New question: Should I use the Arctic Silver thermal compound, or the stuff that comes with the D14?

Thanks for all the help so far - suggestions still welcome!
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April 19, 2012 9:53:05 PM

solnar said:

Why a different PSU? I appreciate the suggestion, but I don't see the clear advantage of choosing this PSU over the one I chose.


Go with the PSU Bruce advised you, amazing reviews everywhere I read especially in hot review sites like jonnyguru's & hardwaresecrets. Not only that, but just like you noticed in the SSD category that you'll save money with the Silverstone Strider. Yet im not so sure about the warranty life on the SilverStone Strider.

If you want to make yourself feel more secure about committing to products that your buying. Then there's one thing I can tell you have to do is...

Read


http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1643/1/ I would fully read this one

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cases_cooling/nzxt_h...

http://www.overclock.net/t/1239728/havik-140-vs-prolima... Observe the Chart on Post 5 of 14

Note the prices for the NZXT are close almost by half from what it was before

The Noctua NH-D14 is generally better but the price comparison on the website for the NZXT makes it a steal in my books.

" " " also has ram a ram clearance site, unlike the NZXT, and for most of what i've learned about the NZXT CPU-cooler is that it goes over one of the DIMM slots, meaning you would have to go with low profile RAM, and i'd double check with them before ordering RAM


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April 20, 2012 12:44:18 AM

Looking online, warranty for the Strider is 3 yrs vs 7 yrs for the HX750. Still, I'm liking the looks of it - especially the modular cables and the magnetic filter (though my brain goes very nails-on-a-chalkboard just thinking about deliberately putting unshielded magnets near my brand new computer).

I think I'll stick with the NH-D14, since I know it'll work with my RAM. I'm not saying price isn't a factor, because I'm not building a $5k machine, but I'm still well under my $2k limit, even including the CPU.

The Strider may indeed be worth a look, though,
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April 20, 2012 8:25:15 PM

...Okay, half my wishlist disappeared. But that's okay, some of the parts that disappeared are ones I'm changing anyway.

I've updated the newegg wishlist, adding the Strider. I'm going to start placing orders for parts by Sunday if no one has any further advice.

Thanks for all of your help!
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April 21, 2012 2:13:47 AM

Apparently you shouldn't shop online with newegg, or at least they say to try ti avoid it due to the shipping fee's
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April 21, 2012 2:33:51 AM

hconduc said:
Apparently you shouldn't shop online with newegg, or at least they say to try ti avoid it due to the shipping fee's


Yeah, I'm mainly just using the convenience of their public wishlist feature.

There's a Canada Computers near where I live, and a TigerDirect near where I work.
I also live within walking distance of about a dozen computer stores.

I am still willing to order from Newegg, but I'm going to check around for better deals first.
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April 21, 2012 12:20:11 PM

i'm taking a wild guess, but do you live in ither Mississauga or Brampton
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April 24, 2012 3:27:22 AM

Best answer selected by solnar.
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