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August 1, 2012 7:22:17 PM

I was looking to get a gtx 560 ti or perhaps a normal one, i was wondering what power supply and wattage is needed to run it?, i also know that you need two connectors, are these included with the card?

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August 1, 2012 7:22:52 PM

i forgot to add what is the price of one i need in £ please
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August 1, 2012 7:30:11 PM

what is the minimum i would need, im looking for a cheapish one
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August 1, 2012 7:33:43 PM

Quality matters, so you don't want to go too cheap on a PSU. It's the most important component in your system.

Anyway, 500W, but here is a cheaper 550W unit that I would recommend.. http://www.scan.co.uk/products/550w-xfx-pro-series-core... XFX Pro Series Core Edition P1-550S-UKB9 550W Power Supply (PSU) £49.86 Inc. VAT
August 1, 2012 7:35:55 PM

i am going to check my system in a min, what are the numbers i should be looking for, in terms of watts and voltage?
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August 1, 2012 7:38:58 PM

newperson_26 said:
i am going to check my system in a min, what are the numbers i should be looking for, in terms of watts and voltage?


You don't really need to worry about anything but the GPU, and the recommended minimum for a 560/560 Ti is 450W/500W.
August 1, 2012 7:40:39 PM

i run an ati radeon hd 5700 is that a similar psu? needed
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August 1, 2012 7:42:38 PM

Well, I nabbed a decent Cooler Master GX 450W for £25 on a super-deal at Novatech half a year ago. It's been doing just fine.
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August 1, 2012 7:43:25 PM

newperson_26 said:
i run an ati radeon hd 5700 is that a similar psu? needed


Around the same. AMD recommends a 450W PSU for both a 5750 and 5770. What wattage do you have now?

Edit: I see you have the CM unit.

Edit 2: Actually, that exact CM unit is decent I think, but I still wouldn't trust it for a 560 Ti.
August 1, 2012 7:56:33 PM

i dont know yet im going to check, do you think i have what i need and dont need a new one?
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August 1, 2012 8:09:56 PM

newperson_26 said:
i dont know yet im going to check, do you think i have what i need and dont need a new one?


Like I said, I think it'll be just ok for a 560, but I wouldn't trust it with a 560 Ti.

If it was me, I would get a new, good quality 500-500W unit, but if you absolutely can't or won't, then it'll probably be ok (even with a 560 Ti), but I can't make any promises. Just a little too close to the edge for my liking.
August 1, 2012 8:16:26 PM

i dont think i can afford a new psu aswell as a card, ive only bought it in march.
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August 1, 2012 8:24:35 PM

newperson_26 said:
i dont think i can afford a new psu aswell as a card, ive only bought it in march.


Then I guess you have two options. You can either get a 560 now, and roll with what you have and hope everything turns out well, or save up for a bit and get a 560 Ti and a better PSU later.

In reality, that CM unit will probably be ok, BUT I just can't say it for absolute CERTAIN and therefore recommend it and tell you that you're golden because I don't honestly believe that.
August 2, 2012 9:55:11 AM

about checking the psu, is there a way to open the case on a certain surface or doing it in a certain way so it doesnt give it a static shock?, and also someone said that its a min of 450W are they wrong?
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August 2, 2012 10:02:08 AM

newperson_26 said:
about checking the psu, is there a way to open the case on a certain surface or doing it in a certain way so it doesnt give it a static shock?, and also someone said that its a min of 450W are they wrong?


You won't really have to worry about ESD just opening the case, unless you scrub the case (and yourself, lol) on the carpet for awhile before you do it. ESD really isn't THAT big of a deal. You have to be stupid with it to hurt anything.

And yes, it's a 450W recommended minimum for a GTX 560 and 500W recommended minimum for the 560 Ti. Those are recommended minimums, and not absolute's, but it's still good to at least have a PSU equal to what is recommended.
August 2, 2012 10:05:25 AM

i meant because its in my bedroom on a carpeted floor, should i rest the computer on my bed covers or will that create static, i dont really want to carry it downstairs
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August 2, 2012 10:09:15 AM

newperson_26 said:
i meant because its in my bedroom on a carpeted floor, should i rest the computer on my bed covers or will that create static, i dont really want to carry it downstairs


It'll be fine, don't worry about it. The case (and everything in it) is grounded anyway, as long as it's still plugged in. Can you still hurt something? Sure, but you have to intentionally try to, by touching EVERY single microchip in the system.

The point: Don't worry about it.
August 2, 2012 10:26:56 AM

is it best to unplug it all first? im confused by your post lol
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August 2, 2012 10:28:05 AM

newperson_26 said:
is it best to unplug it all first? im confused by your post lol


LOL, that's ok man.

But leave it plugged in, if you can. It'll still probably be ok if you can't, but with it plugged it, there's almost no chance of static causing a problem (completely grounded from the mains input).
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August 2, 2012 10:28:33 AM

DJD, someone ELSE posted he had the CM PSU; I can't tell what the OP has.
newperson, it sounds like you are really trying hard to hear what you want to hear. Be very careful; cheap PSUs tend to not be good for what is on their labels, and they typically lack protection circuits, so when they die, they kill attached parts. If you cannot afford a reasonable PSU now, you cannot afford a graphics card like a GTX560. Wait until you can get a decent PSU to go with your new graphics card. Seasonic, Antec, Corsair, XFX, FSP, Enermax/LEPA, and PC Power & Cooling are among the better brands. Look for a unit with some level of 80+ certification; not so much for the efficiency but because it will have been tested at 100% of what is on its label.
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August 2, 2012 10:31:09 AM

Onus said:
DJD, someone ELSE posted he had the CM PSU; I can't tell what the OP has.


If it really IS the GX 450, it's one of the few decent CM PSU's, but I still tend to agree with you.
August 2, 2012 11:10:08 AM

newperson_26 your power supply should have an off switch on the rear. Switch off but leave the mains cable plugged in. That way the grounding of the case and PSU will remain through the Earthing circuit back to mains. If you then touch the case with the hand you are using to do the work you will have discharged any static on your hands and made yourself electrically neutral to the machine.

Don't be running around man-made carpets with rubber soled shoes and then diving in to an ungrounded case. There lies the little prickle of a static discharge and the potentially not so little dent in the wallet.

Common sense rules.

Q
August 2, 2012 11:12:24 AM

im only trying to look at the power supply im not touching it
August 2, 2012 11:18:53 AM

newperson_26 said:
im only trying to look at the power supply im not touching it

I presume that eventually you will be doing more than looking. My advice remains for that occasion.

Q
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August 2, 2012 11:29:15 AM

I wouldn't risk it i have a friend of mine who had the same PSU now granted hes a bit retarded i assume anyway because he bought a 480 and hooked it up with the same PSU and two days later he said i don't know what happen i heard a loud pop sound and then sizzling then all of a sudden smellled something burning and saw a little smoke come from my rig.Lol!Then again your not planing on hooking a 480 up so you might be alright i just wouldn't risk it better safe than sorry mate.
August 2, 2012 11:44:45 AM

could you work out what my psu is by my specs possibly?

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August 2, 2012 11:49:48 AM

Not from that, no (and you can just edit all that out really; a lot of TL;DR for nothing), but I think this is it. COOLER MASTER GX 450W RS450-ACAAD3-US 450W ATX12V v2.31 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply

If it IS, this is the important bit

Quote:
Output +3.3V@24A, +5V@15A, +12V@35A, -12V@0.3A, +5VSB@2.5A


And a review on it saying that it's at least decent. http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-GX...

I still don't trust it for a 560 Ti, but if you want to try it, you're more than welcome to, just without my blessing. I've told you many times how I feel about the situation, and so have others, so you'll do it only at your own risk at this point.
August 2, 2012 12:02:50 PM

if i really have to i suppose i could get a new psu, i have a £250 budget
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August 2, 2012 12:07:59 PM

Here's the jonnyguru review of that CM: http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=... showing it's far from their worst; but I personally would never buy one.
Still, there's no indication that's what the OP has; someone ELSE (MajinCry) said he bought one. @OP, there will be a label on your PSU that should have information on it, including a brand name as well as the claimed outputs; this is what we'd like to know.
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