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Anonymous
July 24, 2005 7:47:32 PM

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Did anyone here move recently to Cingular from Sprint?

If so, how would you compare the two?

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Anonymous
July 24, 2005 9:14:15 PM

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Why would anyone make that move? When you have the "best", why switch
providers? The only reason that I can think of to make the switch from
SprintPCS to Cingular is if your friends and family are on Cingular and
therefore you can get free in-network calling.

-mij

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
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> Did anyone here move recently to Cingular from Sprint?
>
> If so, how would you compare the two?
>
July 24, 2005 10:10:51 PM

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I moved first to AT&T and then to Cingular. I was drawn to the GSM
phones which offered more advanced features. The reception in my
house is about the same. The reception at my work is better with
Cingular. I also occasionally travel and the places I travel have
better reception with Cingular.

I tend to change phones every 4-5 months and the SIM card makes it
easy.

I also plan on taking a vacation overseas at the beginning of next
year and GSM will allow me to use my phone. Sprint does not have that
option.

The switch was easy and I am happy with Cingular. I was not
displeased with Sprint, just that Cingular had more options for me.

On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 15:47:32 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

>Did anyone here move recently to Cingular from Sprint?
>
>If so, how would you compare the two?
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Anonymous
July 24, 2005 11:54:20 PM

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"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
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> Did anyone here move recently to Cingular from Sprint?
>
> If so, how would you compare the two?

I switched 6 weeks ago:

Sprint has better data throughput,

Cingular has better voice coverage.
Anonymous
July 25, 2005 1:38:13 AM

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In article <p9WEe.17249$bp.4352@fed1read03>,
"Mij Adyaw" <mijadyaw@nospam.net> wrote:

> Why would anyone make that move? When you have the "best", why switch
> providers? The only reason that I can think of to make the switch from
> SprintPCS to Cingular is if your friends and family are on Cingular and
> therefore you can get free in-network calling.

Are you saying that in your opinion, Sprint is "the best"?

I'm looking for data to back that up.
Anonymous
July 25, 2005 1:38:14 AM

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Sprint has a very good high speed data service and the voice quality is
superior to GSM. I have done as side-by-side comparison. You really need to
purchase the service the works the best at your home, work, and the location
constantly visit. In some cases that may be a provider other than Sprint or
Cingular, however, here is Southern California Sprint wins.

-mij



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> In article <p9WEe.17249$bp.4352@fed1read03>,
> "Mij Adyaw" <mijadyaw@nospam.net> wrote:
>
>> Why would anyone make that move? When you have the "best", why switch
>> providers? The only reason that I can think of to make the switch from
>> SprintPCS to Cingular is if your friends and family are on Cingular and
>> therefore you can get free in-network calling.
>
> Are you saying that in your opinion, Sprint is "the best"?
>
> I'm looking for data to back that up.
>
Anonymous
July 25, 2005 4:41:08 AM

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On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 17:14:15 -0700, Mij Adyaw wrote:

> Why would anyone make that move? When you have the "best", why switch
> providers? The only reason that I can think of to make the switch from
> SprintPCS to Cingular is if your friends and family are on Cingular and
> therefore you can get free in-network calling.
>
> -mij
>
> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
> news:elmop-E7D757.15473224072005@nntp1.usenetserver.com...
>> [quoted text muted]

How about if Sprint's signal is too weak at home, and one of the reasons
for a cell phone is the "free" long distance?
Anonymous
July 25, 2005 2:04:51 PM

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Mij Adyaw wrote:
> Why would anyone make that move? When you have the "best", why switch
> providers? The only reason that I can think of to make the switch from
> SprintPCS to Cingular is if your friends and family are on Cingular and
> therefore you can get free in-network calling.
>
> -mij

I used to work for Sprint and had a SprintPCS phone at the time. The
customer service at that time was probably the worst in the industry.
Since I worked at the headquarters in Kansas City, the lost call rate is
significant there.

I've been on Verizon for the past two years. Other than a huge billing
error and places in Kansas City where Sprint won't allow other carriers
to operate, Verizon was a great choice. I just now switched to Cingular
for the roll over.
Anonymous
July 26, 2005 1:46:05 AM

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Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> Did anyone here move recently to Cingular from Sprint?

I just switched voer about two weeks ago. Haven't looked back yet
(except I HAVE been waiting with dread for that final Sprint bill).


> If so, how would you compare the two?

1. Coverage is better with Cingular, at least in NJ. Here, Sprint USED
to be a consistent 1 to 2 bars just about everywhere, wth decent call
quality, but lately things have gone WAY downhill and deadspots are
starting to become very frequent. Cingular USED to have very bad here,
but using a Motorola RAZR, I've been frequently getting 3 to 5 bars
everywhere I've gone.

2. Cingular just revamped the account access website, and it includes
call details for the CURRENT billing cycle, listing all calls made and
received that haven't been billed yet. It's a level of detail that
Sprint never could give. HOWEVER, The minute usage summary portion of
the site is usually about 48 hours behind, whereas Sprint's usage
summary was almost always up-to-the-minute.

3. Bills are more detailed. The call detail lists the numbers of
incoming as well as outgoing calls. Sprint never would do this for me,
always citing "privacy reasons." Hell if they were THAT concerned about
privacy, then they shouldn't be offering Caller ID.

4. Bluetooth phones that AREN'T crippled. If you want OBEX push on your
bluetooth phone, the Cingular handsets will do that. If you want DUN,
that's offered too. All of the profiles are there and aren't hindered
like on Verizon or Sprint, and there is a greater selection of bluetooth
capable phones as well.

5. You have 30 days to try out the service, instead of 14 like on Sprint.

6. Finally, customer service IS better at Cingular than Sprint. Every
single rep and agent I've spoken to at Cingular was helpful, and seemed
to have have a genuine interest in wanting to help. Not all of them
were fully knowledgeable, but the ones that weren't knowledgeable about
something were willing to admit it and escalate the issue to someone who
DID know the answer. This is a stark contrast from being a fed what may
be a BS answer if the rep isn't certain, as often happens on Sprint.

I even had a situation where I had to exchange my phone; the first
Motorola RAZR I tried out ended up introducing static into the call once
it got warmed up a bit in the middle of a call. The defective phone was
swapped out with another new phone on the spot, in store and without any
fuss. The replacement phone works wonderfully.


There are some drawbacks though:

1. First and most obvious, your old CDMA phone won't work on Cingular.
That means a new phone and most likely new accessories.

2. No unlimited text messaging. There IS a 1,000 text message tier at
the same $10 price point as Sprint's unlimited tier. 1,000 might be
good for most (and is more than enough for me), but it's still not
unlimited, if that sort of thing bothers you.

3. Unlimited data plan is $5 more expensive. However it doesnt' appear
that they freak out as much about tethering the phone to your laptop.

4. The base plan is $5 more expensive than the base plan on Sprint, but
does offer 150 more anytime minutes.

5. There's just something about the blue and orange color scheme that
really irks me. Though it's still way better than the Yellow and Black
color scheme that Sprint intends to adopt once the merger with Nextel is
complete. :) 


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Anonymous
July 26, 2005 1:50:32 AM

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Mij Adyaw wrote:
> Why would anyone make that move?


I did it, because I wanted to continue to be able to make and receive
calls. :) 


> When you have the "best", why switch
> providers?

The "best" is a relative term. Sprint USED to be the best value in my
area. Recently that has changed dramatically. While they still offer
the best plans for the least money, such plans are of no use to me if
the coverage has deteriorated to the point where places where I once had
great service now have nonexistent coverage.


> The only reason that I can think of to make the switch from
> SprintPCS to Cingular is if your friends and family are on Cingular and
> therefore you can get free in-network calling.

Oh yes, all my friends are on Sprint. Well scratch that, some WERE on
Sprint, but ARE switching with me to Cingular, and the rest are
seriously considering it, after experienceing the same problems I have
been. :) 



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Anonymous
July 26, 2005 1:57:23 AM

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Mij Adyaw wrote:
> Sprint has a very good high speed data service

Actually, EDGE is on par with Sprint's current data offering.

> and the voice quality is
> superior to GSM.

This is also a subjective assessment. Some people swear by GSM and
utterly hate the "muddyness" of CDMA's audio. Others (like myself) are
quite fond of the dynamic range in CDMA and were a bit put off by the
"raspyness" that GSM exhibited in previous years. The vast majority of
cell phones users though, either can't tell or simply don't care about
the differences in audio performance.

FWIW, I have to assume that GSM has improved their vocoders over time,
as the audio I get from my RAZR is quite acceptable. On the other hand,
I haven't been AS happy with CDMA ever since Sprint and Verizon switched
from 13k QCELP vocoders (which gave the best sound I had EVER heard on
ANY phone, even landline) to 8k EVRC vocoders (which can sound passable
in most situations but perform REALLY badly on a crowded network).



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Anonymous
July 26, 2005 2:17:40 AM

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Scott wrote:

> I also plan on taking a vacation overseas at the beginning of next
> year and GSM will allow me to use my phone. Sprint does not have that
> option.

FWIW, Sprint now has a Samsung CDMA/GSM phone that allows international
roaming. The only problem is that it's VERY expensive to buy.


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Anonymous
July 26, 2005 3:02:55 AM

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In <5LWEe.5332$U%6.3070@fe05.lga> on Sun, 24 Jul 2005 19:54:20 -0500,
"Thurman" <thurman@bigplanet.com> wrote:

>"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
>news:elmop-E7D757.15473224072005@nntp1.usenetserver.com...
>> Did anyone here move recently to Cingular from Sprint?
>>
>> If so, how would you compare the two?
>
>I switched 6 weeks ago:
>
>Sprint has better data throughput,
>
>Cingular has better voice coverage.

Here in the San Francisco Bay Area, Cingular has both better data throughput
and better voice coverage.

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July 27, 2005 1:30:15 AM

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I recently switched data plans from Sprint to Cingular and so far Cingular
wins, better speed and coverage for were I've used it.
If it's important to you, you can use Cingular data in Canada but Sprint
data won't work.

"Thurman" <thurman@bigplanet.com> wrote in message
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> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
> news:elmop-E7D757.15473224072005@nntp1.usenetserver.com...
>> Did anyone here move recently to Cingular from Sprint?
>>
>> If so, how would you compare the two?
>
> I switched 6 weeks ago:
>
> Sprint has better data throughput,
>
> Cingular has better voice coverage.
>
July 27, 2005 9:56:07 AM

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>
> I tend to change phones every 4-5 months and the SIM card makes it
> easy.
>

Hello Scott. Here's a dumb question. Is there only a single SIM card
standard? That is, does a Nokia card work on in a Motorola phone? Does a
1 year old SIM card work in a new phone? Etc....

Thanks.



"Scott" <refused@refused.com> wrote in message
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>I moved first to AT&T and then to Cingular. I was drawn to the GSM
> phones which offered more advanced features. The reception in my
> house is about the same. The reception at my work is better with
> Cingular. I also occasionally travel and the places I travel have
> better reception with Cingular.
>
> I tend to change phones every 4-5 months and the SIM card makes it
> easy.
>
> I also plan on taking a vacation overseas at the beginning of next
> year and GSM will allow me to use my phone. Sprint does not have that
> option.
>
> The switch was easy and I am happy with Cingular. I was not
> displeased with Sprint, just that Cingular had more options for me.
>
> On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 15:47:32 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
> <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>
>>Did anyone here move recently to Cingular from Sprint?
>>
>>If so, how would you compare the two?
>
Anonymous
July 29, 2005 3:00:48 AM

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In <xJOdnUeiuOzQ9XrfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> on Wed, 27 Jul 2005 05:56:07 -0500,
"BBB" <hotel@jay.com> wrote:

>> I tend to change phones every 4-5 months and the SIM card makes it
>> easy.
>
>Hello Scott. Here's a dumb question. Is there only a single SIM card
>standard? That is, does a Nokia card work on in a Motorola phone? Does a
>1 year old SIM card work in a new phone? Etc....

In general, any GSM SIM will "work" in any GSM phone (band issues aside).
However, if the phone is locked to a given carrier, then it will only accept
SIMs from that carrier. An unlocked phone will accept SIMs from any carrier.
The brand of phone is irrelevant.

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