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April 20, 2012 10:00:36 PM

Hello everyone...

Used to lurk here years ago.

Currently have an aging system and it's on its last legs. Never have built a system but would love to, so here I am!

Budget: $800 (but could probably pinch the 1st National Bank of Wife up to $900 if need be)

Always have preferred AMD CPU's, but I am open to anything good and fast that makes it within my budget. Don't have to have a new monitor but could probably use one (currently running a SyncMaster 932B). So that's optional.

Special Request... anyone replying to this thread PLEASE list your entire build specs (versus just a piece of hardware) because this is going to be confusing enough for me! ...and any tutorials would be fantastically appreciated too (on building a PC)!

Okay, fire away, and thank you muchly!

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April 20, 2012 10:34:29 PM

Slotted_Rodney said:
Hello everyone...

Used to lurk here years ago.

Currently have an aging system and it's on its last legs. Never have built a system but would love to, so here I am!

Budget: $800 (but could probably pinch the 1st National Bank of Wife up to $900 if need be)

Always have preferred AMD CPU's, but I am open to anything good and fast that makes it within my budget. Don't have to have a new monitor but could probably use one (currently running a SyncMaster 932B). So that's optional.

Special Request... anyone replying to this thread PLEASE list your entire build specs (versus just a piece of hardware) because this is going to be confusing enough for me! ...and any tutorials would be fantastically appreciated too (on building a PC)!

Okay, fire away, and thank you muchly!


Howdy,
CPU- Phenom II 965 Black Edition- $120
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo- Asus M5A99X EVO- $150
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Video Card- EVGA 560 TI Overclocked- $250
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


HDD- WDC 500GB -$85
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM- Gskilll 8GB kit -$47
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU- Corsair TX650v2- $90
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case- HAF 912- $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


CD/DVD Drive- 18
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: $815

All of these components will build you a nice little gaming computer. I would recommend setting the multiplier to 18.5x in BIOS, this will overclock the CPU to 3.7GHZ, which is the same as if you paid a little bit more for a Phenom II 980 model. Its perfectly safe to do that without an aftermarket fan/heatsink assembly.

Keep in mind, that I did not include the price of Windows7 in this budget, it costs about another 100 bucks.


http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/274745-31-step-step-g...

Fair warning, the Tomshare forum currently has a troll problem with Intel vs AMD CPUs, I can tell you that I own a system with a more expensive Intel i5-2400, and it performs the same as my Phenom II system. So, just to preempt that before it starts, if it does.
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April 20, 2012 10:48:56 PM

Nice build. I like the choices.
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April 20, 2012 10:51:39 PM

Pezcore27 said:
Nice build. I like the choices.

Yea, I was gonna recommend the Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 board, but I talked to a guy in a thread, yet another problem with the board. (I had the UD5 variant and it died on me after 3 weeks), seeing too many people having trouble with that board despite having Best choice awards.
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April 20, 2012 11:00:40 PM

You could go a little cheaper and do the ASRock 970 Extreme 3 for 89.99 and get similar performance. Personally i think that is the best sub 100 dollar board out there.
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April 20, 2012 11:15:51 PM

Yea.. ASrock makes pretty good boards, the only thing that really turns me off to them is their warranty. Unless you buy one of their high dollar models, you only get one year.
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April 20, 2012 11:25:43 PM

I agree with nekulturny's build with the following changes:

GPU: SAPPHIRE 100314-3L Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - $180
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MB: ASRock 970 EXTREME4 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS - $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Those 2 changes would trim about $100 off the configuration, enough for a Windows 7 license if you need one.
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April 20, 2012 11:41:39 PM

nekulturny said:
I checked out some benchmarks, damn the 6870 does pretty good against the 560 TI, interesting.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/290?vs=330


Yes, that's why I suggested it. For the few games the 560Ti excels in I feel is not worth the $60-70 extra. Plus with the MB I suggested the OP could slide another 6870 in later for a nice Crossfire setup.

Now of course if the OP does not need an OS, they could use those funds towards the GPU for say:

MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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April 20, 2012 11:47:34 PM

That would be sweet. Hopefully, he can get lucky and be a college student (or know one) and get Win7 for free through Academic Alliance.

I can't tell you how tempting it is to PM people the product key I have which gives a full unlock to Windows 7 and can be installed on as many computers as I want (I have it on 4 computers currently), but with my luck, the first time I do it will be a sting operation.
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April 21, 2012 12:34:50 AM

I am about trying to keep power low, while keeping performance high. This is a build I currently have.
AMD 1100t (I paid $129 new from TD, not sure how much they are now)
Asus M4A88T-I ($118 directron, using 1.5% disc promo)
G. Skill 8GB 204Pin DDR3 1333MHz laptop ram ($25 after rebate, no rebates atm though - maybe find a temp stick)
2x intel x25-m 160GB ($115 each off ebay-used but these things almost never die)
AMD 7750 ($80 right now on newegg for open box, I paid $95 for a new one after rebate-I went this way for the low power use and high end results)

Load I still stay under 240W. Plays Crysis 2, Skyrim, and Crysis maxed without any problems. Personally, I stopped water cooling 3ish years ago when comp hardware started to pass programming. Now even a moderate card such as the 7750 is about 4 times what you need for even the most graphic intensive game.
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April 21, 2012 12:36:31 AM

1100Ts are almost impossible to find now, they discontinued them in februrary. However, if you're interested in selling yours, I might bite :) 
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April 21, 2012 8:44:32 PM

Thank you so much for the detailed list, reasoning behind it, and links... appreciate it much!

And no, I had forgotten to mention needing an OS :-(

Additional Questions:

So should I do the original suggested build (that nekulturny outlined) or consider the alterations from maui67?

Last question for now... (from The Wife), How does this suggested build stack up against an Apple iMac (eg, 21.5-inch: 2.7GHz model)?

Thanks again!
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April 21, 2012 11:27:33 PM

Even I would take Maui's suggestion on the video card, hes right. Both of those are better choices.

As far as the imac, looking at their 2.7GHZ model with 8GB RAM, and Radeon 6770M video card, I got 1700 dollars price. Quite frankly, the build I linked you up with and Maui's vid card suggestion, it would whoop the Apple's ass for half the price. Intel i5s are slightly stronger CPUs than Phenom IIs, but not when they're paired with weak video cards.

The video card the apple comes with is a technically a laptop video chip, it by design could never hope to be as good as a desktop performance card.
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April 21, 2012 11:45:47 PM

BTW, to be fair, I'm biased against Machintosh. I briefly worked in a warehouse that ships Apple products (Whenever you buy an ipod online, I can tell you exactly what the return address is).

Of course being a 3rd party logistics contractor for apple, all the computers in the facility were apples. After seeing how many man-hours were wasted due to computer failures, you couldn't pay me to own a Mac. In my opinion they have been overrated and overpriced for at least 20 years.

Bias aside however (thanks for listening to my rant). Basically, the imac is a desktop with laptop-grade components in it (to give it the small size). The parts cost a fortune and can't compare to the performance of a proper desktop. I guarantee you a big portion of the 1700 dollar price tag is in that notebook-grade video processor.

It doesn't mention what model of i5 CPU it uses, but I'm willing to bet thats a notebook grade CPU too. I have a strong suspicion its a i5-2557M If it is, , then the Phenom II 965 would spank it too.
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April 23, 2012 2:01:44 AM

Rodney, you're lucky I saw your PM, I never checked them until tonite, I had a ton of em that were months old that I had never seen until now. I responded to it, like I said, I don't get any kind of email notification of a PM like I get with forum threads, I figure you're in the same boat, just to let you know I did answer.
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April 23, 2012 4:27:12 AM

PM responded to...

Thanks!
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