Planning a custom build. Need help Start to Finish!

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Okay so I'm planning on my first build . Will be making all orders in around 5 weeks . ehm..

Approximate Purchase Date: 5 weeks

Budget Range: <1300 euros

System Usage from : Internet Browsing , HD Video , Multimeddia Photoshop and other design programs , Maybe some editing programs such as Sony Vegas or After effects , MAYBE some little gaming

Parts Not Required:keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS)

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: hardwareversand.de

Country: Ireland :)

Parts:
Already chosen:
CPU:Intel Core i7-2600K Box, LGA1155 http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=41222&agid=1617

CPU Cooler: Not yet decided

Case:Cooler Master HAF X, ATX,

Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 EVO Rev 3.0, Sockel 1155, ATX, DDR3 Probably/Maybe Dont know much bout motherboards http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=43843&agid=1601

HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200 2000GB, SATA 6Gb/s http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=53881&agid=1342

RAM: 8GB Corsair Vengeance PC3-12800U CL10-10-10-27: http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=52091&agid=1193

If I use Liquid cooling: Corsair Hydro Series H60 (Sockel 775/1156/1366/AM2/AM2+/AM3/FM1) http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=48794&agid=669

PSU: Corsair 750HX, 750 Watt http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=28060&agid=1630

Video Card: Completely clueless. Might maybe do "some" gaming but deffinitely not a priority. But I do watch and edit HD videos and movies. Suggestionsplease


Overclocking: Yes


*I probably should include more info but this is all I can think of... Any suggestions / help / opinions appreciated bacause it all helps and i hope to keep this forum active throughout the entire build.
THANKS IN ADVANCE :bounce:




Additional Comments: Don't know weather to go with fan or liquid cooling. If fan i want alot and everything to be nice and cool with maybe an aftermarket cpu cooler and few extra case fans
 
Just a few observations

If doing LCS (self contained liquid cooling) go with the H100 rather than the H70
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=48795&agid=669

The addition of a SSD for boot/system drive has got to be my favorite upgrade in 40+ years of computing... something like this
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=46110&agid=1145

For your use, I'm thinking you don't really want the P67, I think a Z68 would be a better choice
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=49604&agid=1601

Others will hop on in I'm sure here but hopefully this will help a little
 

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Thanks I've changed to the h100 and as for the ssd , how important is it because they're fairly pricey,, And whats the difference between the two motheboards?
 
The H100 has a bigger radiator which is better for cooling. However, you'll be fine with a cheaper air cooler like the Hyper 212/Evo, which is around $30, will cool about the same as most of those H-series coolers, and is quiet. Much better bang for the buck.

The SSD will speed up your boot times and overall experience with programs installed on it. If you installed your editing programs on the SSD and used the hard drive for storage, it would be and feel much faster than having everything on the one hard drive.

Z68 motherboards are a bit newer and have a few extra features. I believe the QuickSync features on Z68 will speed up some of your editing; otherwise, P67 and Z68 are the same. If they're the same price, get the Z68.
 

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Okay so the ssd's sound great I'll get one that one C12Friedman suggested and i love the idea of the cheaper cooler as long as it keeps it cool. I plan on overclocking. Can't find it on the website im using but ill check ebay or amazon. I'll try get that Z68 mobo and can anyone reccomend a decent video card?Thanks for all the help so far and keep it coming
 
On your budget, you should be looking for about an AMD HD 7850. NVIDIA might be releasing something quite soon, but I don't know how soon you'll be able to get it after it releases.
 

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Oh and what would be a good power supply for this build considering I will be overclocking and plan on upgrading in future?
 
Depending on the GPU, you'd be looking at 650-850W. Corsair, Seasonic, and XFX are all built be Seasonic and are all top quality PSUs in that range. Seasonic is usually more common in Europe than the other two. Antec is also a good choice and can sometimes be considerably cheaper.
 


You also have Superflower PSU's available... they are little known in the US since almost all of their US products are sold through different brands but often, when reading PSU reviews, you see the statement "... rebranded Super-flower..." usually, the accompanying reviews are positive.
 

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Probably should have thought of this earlier but how risky is watercooling my system, as in how easy is it to fudge up and ruin my whole build. Remember this is my first build and I'm new at this! Are leaks easily possible and I see people in forums mentioning "real watercooling". What does this mean as I thought all watercooling would be real?
 
Real water cooling as some people call it, is simply to differentiate themselves from those that have All-in-one-Cooling (Corsair H-80 & H100, Intel's 2011LCS, Antec'sH2O 920 & 620 etc...).
"real water cooling" is usually a custom loop (although there are kits with everything you need) consisting of: CPU cooling block, pump, reserviour, radiator and tubing (clamps, barbs, etc...)
Water cooling is not usually recommended for beginners if only because the risks can (note I say "can") outweigh the benefits. Unless you plan to do some overclocking for fun and bragging rights or want to run your system (like I do) 100% 24/7, a true water loop would not help much... and does add to the difficulty of the build.
My first step into water was the Intel 2011LCS, I figured if something were to go wrong, at least it wouldn't be my fault (hopefully).
I would suggest you do your build with air cooling (even the stock CPU cooler if it has one)... read the watercooling stickys (later) and see if that's something that interests you'll have a better understanding of the set-up steps involved
 

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Hmmmm..... After a few days thinking about it I suppose you're right. I'll save watercooling for the future... :/ Can you reccomend a good cpu cooler or is the stock cooler good enough? And is the stock cooler included with the i7 in my cart (seen in first post)? Thanks so far everyone<3
 

"Box" implies that it does not include a heatsink (although the web-site says it does). Since you want to overclock anyway an aftermarket heatsink like
http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=25712&agid=669
or
http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=31818&agid=669
(as of last review I read this was the #1 air cooler, but pricey)
would work fine (if you're still considering water later, get the cheaper one - it'll still give decent clocks)

Before anyone starts hyping the CoolerMaster hyper212EVO - it is not available from that website - you're welcome to look...
http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articlesearch.jsp?agid=440&search.reset=1&search.sKey=
I tried 3 different searches there, came up empty.
 

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Yeah I emailed the suppliers asking if the i7 came with the stock cooler and if it does i think I'll go with that and overclock later to keep the costs down. I am still undecided on a video card so if anyone has any suggestions for that it would be great. I notice you mentioning that website that I kinda insisted on using... Well if anyone knows a cheaper one with more variety that will ship to Ireland I'm all ears :)
 

All socket 2011 cpu's come "box" - no HSF and I have seen it on some SB processors (haven't looked at IB to check those). It seems to be a very recent trend from Intel (haven't seen it from AMD yet).
 


I knew they weren't including them with the LGA 2011 CPUs, but I haven't seen a SB/IB CPU that hasn't had one. In terms of a cost decision, it's actually a good idea for the 2011s, since they run hot enough that designing a new cooler wouldn't be very cost effective for such a niche market.
 
Realization/clarification - they have the SB CPU's listed as "tray" without HSF's... interesting - they also charge more for them, I'm used to seeing a $5-$9 decrease in price that way, not an increase. I'm beginning to think the term "box" (which I had always seen in reference to OEM) is used very ambiguously in "techland" - along with a few other terms I had always assumed (there's that word) had specific meaning.