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April 21, 2012 1:45:53 PM

Ok, so here are my specs that I plan on buying:

AsRock Z77 Pro4 Motherboard
Ivy Bridge version of i5 2500k (What is that?)
Corsair CMZ4GX3M1A1600C9 4GB 1600MHz CL9 DDR3 Vengeance Memory Module
Coolermaster CM690 II Lite
Coolermaster GX 650W PSU
Whatever nvidia 600 card that is £175 or less
TP-Link TL-WN951N Wireless N PCI Adapter
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATAIII 6Gb/s 16MB Cache 3.5 inch Internal Hard Drive OEM
Asus DRW-24B3ST SATA Internal 24X DVD±RW Drive
Asus VS247H LCD LED 23.6" HDMI Monitor

Questions:
Is it worth getting that motherboard over the AsRock Z68 Pro3 Gen3? Could someone possibly do some hard comparing on the two, because I couldn't find much?

Is that wireless card decent?

What will the Ivy Bridge version of the i5 2500k be?

Is this motherboard good for overclocking?
April 22, 2012 12:50:41 PM

Ive bridge version of i5 2500k will be i5 3570k

z77 is worth money because usb 3.0 , sata 3 and pci 3.0 will be much integrated.

Also newer technology is always recommended due to better features and a reversion of the old one.

Also it supports hd 4000 graphics and nf300(apperently z77 pro4 does not have nf300 due to a non sli motherboard.

Why coolermaster psu.

Buy corsair , seasonic xfx or ocz psu which are well made.

Xfx 550w pro 80+ bronze or seasonic 520w 80+ bronze.

Why cm 690 its really small and components tend to get crouded. try cm haf series or trooper like haf 912 or storm enforcer or scout. also antec hundred and one series are really good.

Other than that i aint expert ib wireless but that piece is good.

You are ready to pull the trigger so pull it.

Good luck :D 
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April 22, 2012 1:07:57 PM

What is this system for?

I would recommend Noctua NH-D14. This is the best cooler for CPU. But please ensure that it would fit in the motherboard.
April 22, 2012 1:34:21 PM

No dought that noctua nh d14 is the best cooler but it wont be needed as cm hyper 212 plus / evo can oc a i5 to 4.5 ghz without sweat and their is no point of oc above it due to diminished returns.
April 22, 2012 2:00:47 PM

It's a gaming system, preferably for playing modern games on ultra at 1920x1080.

The reason for the CM power supply is because it comes in a bundle, I get the PSU and case for £100. For £5 extra I could get this though:

http://www.ebuyer.com/365907-exdisplay-cm-storm-enforce...

I know Corsair is better, but I'm on a tight budget here, and that PSU has bronze and I've heard it's good, it ran an i7 and overclocked GTX 570/80 well, so it should be fine right?
April 22, 2012 7:18:59 PM

Why's nobody even replying to my posts anymore?
April 22, 2012 7:34:13 PM

Better off buying these 2:
http://www.ebuyer.com/270598-fractal-design-core-3000-c...
http://www.ebuyer.com/264380-xfx-550w-core-edition-pro-...

The problem with CM is their designs especially at the low end are outdated
GX650 review: (one bad and one good)
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/CoolerMaster/GX650W_...
http://www.kitguru.net/components/power-supplies/zardon...

I really hope you get the new revision of the GX650 though as the older deaign from seventeam failed hard:
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/11/22/cooler_master...
April 22, 2012 7:53:07 PM

Is that one in the bundle I posted the new version?
April 22, 2012 8:07:02 PM

No way of knowing until you get it.
April 22, 2012 8:11:38 PM

OK, will it tell me somewhere onn the box or in the manual?
April 23, 2012 7:36:00 AM

Doubt it, you would probably have to check from the serial number. You wouldn't be able to return it though so not alot of point.
April 23, 2012 11:14:56 AM

They're X79, LGA 2011 boards, which aren't compatible with LGA 1155 CPU's
April 23, 2012 4:29:10 PM

Forget IB if it cant overclock for ***.

So, what actual advantages does IB have over SB? Is Sandy Bridge still better, right?
April 23, 2012 4:53:54 PM

Lieutenant Awesome said:


So, what actual advantages does IB have over SB? Is Sandy Bridge still better, right?


SB gives you the best value for money....You have plenty of reviews on Tom's. The SB is pretty good for OC.

IB is 22nm, while SB is 32. The former is supposed to improve efficiency. We need to wait for a full review and a comparison by experts; probably we may see some reviews next week. You may wait for the reviews.
April 23, 2012 5:33:09 PM

Ok then. That's a real ******* bummer.

SB is better at overclocking
IB has twice good graphics
SB is better value for money
IB is newer and better efficiency
April 23, 2012 6:36:01 PM

Lieutenant Awesome said:
Ok then. That's a real ******* bummer.

SB is better at overclocking
IB has twice good graphics
SB is better value for money
IB is newer and better efficiency


:D 

Let's wait for the reviews...
April 23, 2012 8:03:56 PM

Right, so suddenly it can overclock to 4.9Ghz? WHADDA' F*CK?! I'M HOT HEADED!

So anyway, should I buy this or the i5 2500k, I'm f*cking confused now. Does it overheat or not, was that just bad luck?
April 23, 2012 8:06:39 PM

I don't think you understand the concept of overheating. It cannot overheat unless you have inadequate cooling.
April 23, 2012 8:09:44 PM

But apparently the 3750k's things are too close together and it just gets too hot, pretty sure I read that fan and even water cooling couldn't prevent it from resetting itself at 4.9Ghz, they could only make it run that speed using LIQUID NITROGEN.
April 23, 2012 8:21:15 PM

Lieutenant Awesome said:
But apparently the 3750k's things are too close together and it just gets too hot, pretty sure I read that fan and even water cooling couldn't prevent it from resetting itself at 4.9Ghz, they could only make it run that speed using LIQUID NITROGEN.


An overheated CPU would, under normal circumstances, result in windows shutting itself down to prevent damage.

As azeeem40 wrote, CPU overheat and inefficient cooling are related to each other. If 4.9 clock speed produces excessive heat, the system is unstable. It is plain and simple. It should be brought back to stable levels. Period.
April 23, 2012 8:33:08 PM

IVY BRIDGE REVIEW

Intel Core i7-3770K Review: A Small Step Up From Sandy Bridge

April 23, 2012 8:40:35 PM

But never the less, it is still a step up, personally for £10-15 more I'm obviously going to go for the newer hardware!
April 23, 2012 9:24:08 PM

I don't understand. You're all saying the Ivy Bridge is better, but I thought OCing wise it's worse, and isn't that one of the most important things?

I heard the 3750k can't go past 4.7Ghz without becoming unstable, yet a SB 2500k can reach 4.8Ghz without any trouble?
April 23, 2012 9:29:05 PM

Wait until official reviews...
April 23, 2012 9:29:13 PM

Lieutenant Awesome said:
I don't understand. You're all saying the Ivy Bridge is better, but I thought OCing wise it's worse, and isn't that one of the most important things?

I heard the 3750k can't go past 4.7Ghz without becoming unstable, yet a SB 2500k can reach 4.8Ghz without any trouble?


If OCing important to you, which you wrote at the start it is, you go with SB 2500K or i7 2700K or i72930K.
April 23, 2012 9:47:18 PM

SSri said:
If OCing important to you, which you wrote at the start it is, you go with SB 2500K or i7 2700K or i72930K.

But then I'm buying old tech which is pretty crap. It has PCI E 3, so nice futureproof CPU and I'm buying a Z77 so I might as well. Double integrated graphics which is good for when I play GTA SA without a GPU for a while, only ******* problem is I'm unsure how well it overclocks.
April 23, 2012 9:53:35 PM

If you're upgrading from an old CPU, like non-SB, to IB, then it's worth it. Otherwise, not really.
April 23, 2012 9:55:54 PM

Lieutenant Awesome said:
But then I'm buying old tech which is pretty crap. It has PCI E 3, so nice futureproof CPU and I'm buying a Z77 so I might as well. Double integrated graphics which is good for when I play GTA SA without a GPU for a while, only ******* problem is I'm unsure how well it overclocks.


If you read the review at Tom's, although OCing seems a problem but at 4.7 - 4.8 and higher. It is probably stable at 4.5-4.6, provided you are happy with it. Unless you are a very well trained expert, you might not see a noticeable difference in your performance between 4.5-4.6 and 4.8 plus.

You would do well to wait for a few more extensive reviews.
April 23, 2012 10:15:34 PM

I have NO CPU right now, I have no computer at all built yet, just a list of the components.

I really want the Ivy Bridge because it looks future proof and has a lot of improved features, graphics for example are a lot better, but the problem is overclocking. I am no trained expert at all, I'm going to get some advice here and watch a few youtube videos to figure out how. The speed of the CPU seems like just about the most important bit, and if it's possible to overclock SB processors much faster and more stable than IB, then this really lets it down. This is a tricky decision here, future proof or better speed of CPU? Then again, 4.5Ghz is an amazing speed to be quite honest considering most desktops in the stores are 2.8Ghz at best usually. Well, what is the HIGHEST I could overclock an IB to without failure, and the HIGHEST I could overclock an SB to without failure? What are the garauntees?
April 23, 2012 10:33:25 PM

Lieutenant Awesome said:
What are the garauntees?


There are no free lunches, are they? But, this is a great forum full of experts and geeks. Once you are ready, they may be able to guide you step-by-step. Otherwise, if you are not confident and comfortable, you may ask your friend, colleague or some one to help you. In a worst case, buy an over-clocked PC!

The good news on guarantee is here....I assume this is correct...

http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2012/1/18/overcloc...!-intel-introduces-overclocking-protection-plan.aspx

http://guru3d.com/news/intel-overclocking-warranty-for-...
April 23, 2012 10:43:45 PM

This protection plan appears available only for a few CPUs on a trial basis for 6 months. It is subject to review by Intel after 6 months.
April 23, 2012 11:52:33 PM

Lieutenant Awesome said:
Forget IB if it cant overclock for ***.

So, what actual advantages does IB have over SB? Is Sandy Bridge still better, right?




I am in the same exact situation you're in, although I am getting the i7 3770k. And while I am very disappointed with the ivy,s heat issues its not an inferior chip at all. It's still a very fast cpu! And the Z77 chipset has so many more features than sandy. If u want future proof it's a no brainer, ivy,s the way to go. I am going with the H100 liquid cooler tho.

And as far as the integrated graphics, alone it will support most games (just not at high res), the Z77 chipset allows you to combine it with a separate gpu tho in the future( virtu universal mvp. ) Which is a great example of future proofing, right? There is so many more advantages to list but I gtg right now, I just wanted to help because your situation is so similiar to mine. I thought the same as you but it seems the only thing we are losing is a tiny bit of bandwidth.


It seems like you are putting way too much importance on OC'ing. If all u want is bragging rights than get the sandy. Not me though. Good luck and take care.
April 24, 2012 11:00:07 AM

I decided last night I think I'll stay with IB. I mean, if it can overclock to 4.5Ghz stably then I don't see any problem with it, there's no point in getting older technology just to make it even faster. 4.5Ghz is crazy, I never knew computers even went past 3.4Ghz before. Considering I want a futureproof computer, the latest technology, and it can still reach an amazing speed, I'll stay with IB.
April 24, 2012 11:17:56 AM

Lieutenant Awesome said:
I decided last night I think I'll stay with IB. I mean, if it can overclock to 4.5Ghz stably then I don't see any problem with it, there's no point in getting older technology just to make it even faster. 4.5Ghz is crazy, I never knew computers even went past 3.4Ghz before. Considering I want a futureproof computer, the latest technology, and it can still reach an amazing speed, I'll stay with IB.


Good luck
April 24, 2012 8:11:51 PM

I'm unsure Corsair Vengeance works on Asrock Z77 Pro4.

Oh I see now there are different types of corsair vengeance. Right... why can't I have 8GB of 1600Mhz RAM, why does it only support up to 4GB? That's a real pisstake
April 24, 2012 8:19:26 PM

http://www.asrock.com/mb/memory.asp?Model=Z77%20Pro4

What the hell, the highest size for 1600Mhz RAM is 4GB on that list? So does this mean I can't ever get 8GB for that mobo with RAM that's 1600Mhz? As if being forced to buy two sticks of RAM rather than one at first wasn't bad enough, I now can't even get 8GB?
April 24, 2012 8:23:21 PM

Hey Lt, Im also in the same boat,

Asus Z77-V ..... was torn between the SB and IB. Decided on the IB too. 3570K

I have Corsair Vengeance 8GB 1600Mhz ram too and I think my mobo can run upto 32GB. Pretty sure yours can handle more than 4GB. Actually, Im positive.

Just have to find the dam Ivys now.
April 24, 2012 8:34:15 PM

WAIT, I DON'T GET THIS FOR *** NOW.

Oh I see now, OOHHHHHHH, it just said how much memory was on the ram stick. I got confused because I thought it said "4Gb, 2x2GB", ok I understand now.

Right so... damn it won't use the RAM sticks I found, crap the only ones on amazon are ******* expensive.
April 24, 2012 8:47:42 PM

***, the memory I want CML16GX3M4A1600C9 is sold in 4x4GB everywhere I look. I don't have £80 to spend on RAM and I don't need 16GB, where can I get CML16GX3M4A1600C9 in 2x sets?
April 24, 2012 9:57:41 PM

Is it because Z77/3rd gen intel is new, and they will be releasing more RAM for the board later or something?

Honestly, I've found practically NO memory chips from the board's support list, there was the odd one or two but they're for 16GB, and that's £80.
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