Is there a cheaper build better than what I have already?

[underhill]

I was wondering if there was a way to get the cost down of my build, parts not needed won't be listed with the others.
I am willing to use TigerDirect but only if it would come out to be cheaper after tax and shipping, but hoping to stick with Newegg and Amazon.

I3 2100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078&Tpk=intel%20i3%202100

Gigabyte Z68
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128538

PNY GTX 560 8gb ram bundle
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1961904&SRCCODE=GOOGLEBASE&cm_mmc_o=VRqCjC7BBTkwCjCECjCE

Thermaltake 430W PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153023

Thermaltake Commander Snow White
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133196&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Cases+%28Computer+Cases+-+ATX+Form%29-_-Thermaltake-_-11133196

Seagate Baracuda 750Gb Hdd
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148782

 

[killermoats]

I would see some issues running that 560 graphics card on a 430 PSU. First off the PSU only has 1x6 PCI connector. The card recommends a 450+ PSU.

Your at the bottom end of quality manufactures so there is not a whole lot you can do to shave off the price.

 

[Raiddinn]

I wouldn't choose Patriot RAM if it were me, but if its in a bundle deal then I guess you have to take it.

I would be wary of a refurbished Hard Drive, but if you have to take the risk for money reasons then you have to I guess.

The case looks OK, but I would say the PSU is definitely not OK. Thermaltake is a horrible PSU brand in general and you would be taking a huge risk if you got one of their PSUs.

I would absolutely spend the $20 extra on an XFX 450w instead of that if I were you.

If you live in Austin TX, there should be a Micro Center nearby where you can get a lot of that stuff cheaper, that would help free up the $20 for a good PSU.

 

[killermoats]

I wouldn't choose Patriot RAM if it were me, but if its in a bundle deal then I guess you have to take it.

I would be wary of a refurbished Hard Drive, but if you have to take the risk for money reasons then you have to I guess.

The case looks OK, but I would say the PSU is definitely not OK. Thermaltake is a horrible PSU brand in general and you would be taking a huge risk if you got one of their PSUs.

I would absolutely spend the $20 extra on an XFX 450w instead of that if I were you.

If you live in Austin TX, there should be a Micro Center nearby where you can get a lot of that stuff cheaper, that would help free up the $20 for a good PSU.

I've never had issues with Thermaltake PSU's. Though I have never gotten the low end ones.
I choose to go with Corsair for PSU's. Sold tons in my store and have yet to see one come back bad.
Agreed on the HD, I did not look to see it was a refurb. Newegg you can get a 500gb WD for like $80.

 

[underhill]

Thank you for the quick replies, I was also looking at instead of the bundle getting the g skill Ares
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231544&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Memory+%28Desktop+Memory%29-_-G.SKILL-_-20231544

with a Radeon 6870
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102948&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Video+Cards-_-Sapphire+Tech-_-14102948

Instead of going with the bundle, would this be a better option?
I was also looking at the corsair cx 500w
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027

Would this also be a better option?

 

[Raiddinn]

I would take the 6870 + Ares over the 560 + Patriot.

Corsair is a better maker of PSUs than Thermaltake is, but buying their PSUs still requires research into how good the actual model and wattage performs.

Both Corsair and Antec are usually good, but they both have some models that are very bad.

Getting XFX is the simpler thing because not a single model in that brand is bad.

You can do the research for the Corsair model if you want to seriously consider it.

Start by trying to determine if it is Seasonic (good) or Channel Well Technologies (possibly less good) or some other maker (very possibly less good) that manufactured it on behalf of Corsair.

Such research is just a waste of time, though, when excellent options exist that require none.

 

[underhill]

Alright well how about these?
XFX 450w psu
http://www.amazon.com/XFX-ATX-450-Power-Supply/dp/B005FPT38U

g skill ares
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231542

XFX radeon 6870
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150561

How does this sound now?

 

[Raiddinn]

Fine with me.

 

[underhill]

or maybe go with a little more power and lower the gpu?

pc power 500w psu
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703035

g skill ares
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231542

XFX Radeon 6850
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150573

 

[FinneousPJ]

Why would you do that though?

 

[Proximon]

That's not needed.

 

[Raiddinn]

The PC Power and Cooling 500w can't necessarily provide more power than an XFX 450w.

I don't really want to get into the hows and whys right now, but I just want to point out that you can't trust what is on the labels even for PSU makers that are generally considered to be OK.

I would have to research that PC P&C 500w PSU to see if it can handle the system. I know the XFX 450w can.

 

[Proximon]

It's not rocket science

Here's a reference for most popular brands, including 12V ratings and reviews:

http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page541.htm

The XFX supplies less power than the PC P&C. Both are made by Seasonic. The XFX 450W is not reviewed, but all other models in the core series have excellent reviews, and they are all the same platform.

The max draw of a 6870 is 155W, making the max draw of the entire system less than 350W. The max draw will only be reached under synthetic loads. Max gaming draw of the system will be under 300W.
http://forums.atomicmpc.com.au/index.php?showtopic=264

The XFX will supply up to 408W of 12V power (34 amps). This is enough for the 6870.

 

[Raiddinn]

I like things simple. If I know something is good (as all XFXs are) then I just use that rather than researching every PSU of a similar wattage and then forgetting about maker/model x and researching it again, and so on.

XFX has never disappointed me and is quite price competitive, so I don't see much reason to research, use, or suggest anything else.