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April 22, 2012 7:43:52 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: This week

Budget Range: 1500-1700$

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, surfing internet

Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, monitor, Hdd

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com

Country: Spain

Parts Preferences: Intel cpu, assrock mobo

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: Yes

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: ill wait to ivy bridge, price is not an issue


This is what i looking for :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
i5 2500k
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
asrock z77 extreme 4
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
corsair carbide 500 r
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
crucial m4 128Gb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Sapphire hd 7950 oc version
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Corsair ax850
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
patriot 1600 2x4
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
noctua dh-14


Any advice? thanks :p 

April 22, 2012 8:44:33 PM

can any1 say something plz? any change?
a b 4 Gaming
April 22, 2012 9:01:46 PM

It's a great build! Nothing to change.
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April 22, 2012 9:07:38 PM

Ok ;D thanks!
April 22, 2012 9:16:11 PM

I see you are recycling your HDD, which HDD would you be using. This looks really good, but i do not think the 850w psu is necessary unless you are planning on a crossfire of the 7950 later on.
April 22, 2012 9:18:27 PM

i have 1Tb Seagate sata 3, and yes i will crossfire this. 1 question, can i handle good fps in bf3 with this gpu? ty for the suggestions
April 22, 2012 9:31:07 PM

nice to know =D thank u
April 22, 2012 9:36:37 PM

no problem! everything looks excellent!
a c 232 4 Gaming
April 22, 2012 9:54:36 PM

Few minor tweaks - This will give you substantially better performance for $1,696:

Case - $ 125 - Corsair 500R White http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU - $ 165 - Corsair HX850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MoBo - $ 385 - ASUS P8Z68-V/GEN3 Combo http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
10% off Mobo ($18) w/ promo code ASUS419425, limited offer
CPU - inc - Intel Core i7-2500K Included w/ above
Cooler - $ 90 - Phanteks PH-TC14PE http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
TIM - $ 5 - Shin Etsu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM - $ 54 - (2 x 4GB) Corsair Vengeance DDR3-1600 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - $ 500 - Asus GTX 680 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - Later - Same
HD - $ 90 - Segate Barracuda 1TB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SSD - $ 140 - Mushkin Chronos Deluxe 120 GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DVD Writer - $ 58 - Asus Model BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OS - $ 100 - Win 7-64 Home Premium OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

-33% performance increase to 989 fps versus 746 fps from GPU switch (Guru3D Game Test Suite)

-Why get Z77 MoBo w/o waiting 7 days for Ivy Bridge CPU ? Why not wait a week and get the ASUS P8Z77-V w/ i5-3570K for what's been reported to be a CPU at roughly same price as 2500k

If price is not an option, I love the new Sabertooth (5 year warranty) .... so does the reviewers

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/04/20/asus_sabertoo...

-SSD above is 2 tiers above the M4 (21% faster) and has high endurance toshiba toggle flash and is $20 cheaper to boot.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-review-benchmar...

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4328/mushkin_chronos_d...

Quote:
To sum it all up with a bow on top, [with the Mushkin Chronos Deluxe] you get amazing performance, extremely long service life and a hassle free low price point on a drive that literally has very little competition in the marketplace.


-Cooler - Phanteks tops and is prettier than the Noc :)  ... and its cheaper to boot
http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/phanteks_ph_tc14pe...

-RAM - I went with has lower voltage so will help it and ya CPU which controls it run cooler ... color also matches ya case :) 

-PSU above is $25 cheaper and is a better performance rating

HX850 gets a 10.0 performance rating for $165
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

AX850 gets a 9.5 performance rating for $190
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
a b 4 Gaming
April 22, 2012 10:01:06 PM

What's the difference between the deluxe and non-deluxe?
April 22, 2012 10:03:05 PM

I'm waiting to ivy bridge - Additional Comments: ill wait to ivy bridge, price is not an issue ^_^
i'll get i5 3570k with asrock extreme4. So i change my psu to hx850, ram to 1.5 V and i want that noctua but thanks. The 680 is too expensive here in spain.. its about 650$ so i think 7950oc is better for the money.
a c 232 4 Gaming
April 22, 2012 10:09:38 PM

azeem40 said:
What's the difference between the deluxe and non-deluxe?


The Chronos Deluxe model uses premium 3Xnm Toshiba Toggle Mode Flash. There are very few companies offering SSDs with Toshiba Toggle flash.

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4328/mushkin_chronos_d...

Quote:
There are two important factors to keep in mind about the Muskin Chronos Deluxe. The first has to do with the flash used; 3Xnm Toshiba Toggle Mode NAND. This flash has a much longer lifespan than the 25nm IMFT flash that resides in many of today's SandForce SF-2281 controlled products.

April 22, 2012 10:15:03 PM

JackNaylorPE said:
Few minor tweaks - This will give you substantially better performance for $1,696:

Case - $ 125 - Corsair 500R White http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU - $ 165 - Corsair HX850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MoBo - $ 385 - ASUS P8Z68-V/GEN3 Combo http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
10% off Mobo ($18) w/ promo code ASUS419425, limited offer
CPU - inc - Intel Core i7-2500K Included w/ above
Cooler - $ 90 - Phanteks PH-TC14PE http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
TIM - $ 5 - Shin Etsu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM - $ 54 - (2 x 4GB) Corsair Vengeance DDR3-1600 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - $ 500 - Asus GTX 680 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - Later - Same
HD - $ 90 - Segate Barracuda 1TB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SSD - $ 140 - Mushkin Chronos Deluxe 120 GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DVD Writer - $ 58 - Asus Model BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OS - $ 100 - Win 7-64 Home Premium OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

-33% performance increase to 989 fps versus 746 fps from GPU switch (Guru3D Game Test Suite)

-Why get Z77 MoBo w/o waiting 7 days for Ivy Bridge CPU ? Why not wait a week and get the ASUS P8Z77-V w/ i5-3570K for what's been reported to be a CPU at roughly same price as 2500k

-SSD above is 2 tiers above the M4 (21% faster) and has high endurance toshiba toggle flash and is $20 cheaper to boot.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-review-benchmar...

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4328/mushkin_chronos_d...

Quote:
To sum it all up with a bow on top, [with the Mushkin Chronos Deluxe] you get amazing performance, extremely long service life and a hassle free low price point on a drive that literally has very little competition in the marketplace.


-Cooler - Phanteks tops and is prettier than the Noc :)  ... and its cheaper to boot
http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/phanteks_ph_tc14pe...

-RAM - I went with has lower voltage so will help it and ya CPU which controls it run cooler ... color also matches ya case :) 

-PSU above is $25 cheaper and is a better performance rating

HX850 gets a 10.0 performance rating for $165
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

AX850 gets a 9.5 performance rating for $190
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...



Did you even read the entire OP?....he said he'd wait for Ivy...
That HX850 would never rate higher than the AX850 if compared side by side....that HX review is from 2009 against 2009 hardware.....you completely took it out of context.
The phanteks and Noctua are pretty much par performance wise....some reviews favor one over the other. But it is never quite clear.
That motherboard is not worth the price over the Asrock....but that's my opinion....it won't bring him $200+ worth of added performance over the ASROCK....
The Chronos was a good suggestion.
The gtx 680 was a good suggestion.




a c 232 4 Gaming
April 22, 2012 10:16:27 PM

krugorz said:
i'll get i5 3570k with asrock extreme4. So i change my psu to hx850, ram to 1.5 V and i want that noctua but thanks. The 680 is too expensive here in spain.. its about 650$ so i think 7950oc is better for the money.


Good move on the IB, I don't expect much performance increase but the efficiency is worth waiting for.

Read the Z77 Sabertooth reviews.....Thermal Armor provides as much as 8C temp drop which may be worthwhile to you if your area of Spain is subject to warm summers.

http://www.kitguru.net/components/motherboard/zardon/as...

Quote:
In a nutshell, the Sabertooth Z77 never crashed, regardless of whether I had the active fans installed or the Thermal Armor removed. Temperatures of the VRM’s reduced by around 8c with both fans operating,


Yes, those that are selling the 680 now here in US are demanding $650 too for what they have left in stock .... I expect that to drop back to $500 when reputable dealers resupply.






a c 232 4 Gaming
April 22, 2012 10:53:15 PM

ismaeljrp said:
Did you even read the entire OP??....he said he'd wait for Ivy...\


yes I was reinforcing the point :) 

Quote:
That motherboard is not worth the price over the Asrock....but that's my opinion....it won't bring him $200+ worth of added performance over the ASROCK....


I get t throw ya own quote back at ya now ...."Did you even read the post ?"

That price is a combo ....it includes the MoBo and the CPU.

My MoBo and CPu = $385
His MoBo and CPU = $220 + $135 = $355

So we talking a $30 difference, not $200 ... and yes I'd say well worth it.

Quote:
That HX850 would never rate higher than the AX850 if compared side by side....that HX review is from 2009 against 2009 hardware.....you completely took it out of context.


Not at all, read the review.......when buying a PSU, my two most important criteria are voltage stability (what's the swing range above standard on each rail) and ripple, both of which are better on the HX850 than they were on the AX850...in fact only 2 PSU's had better ripple than the HX850 and they are the only two that I have used more often than the HX850 and they are the Delta made CP-850 and SG-850 from Antec.

Gotta give the AX points for efficiency where it is significantly better than the HX .series... but I'm much less concerned about my electricity usage than I am with voltage stability and ripple.

Quote:
The phanteks and Noctua are pretty much par performance wise....some reviews favor one over the other. But it is never quite clear.


Most of the ones I see favoring the Noc are using an LGA775 platform in their test rig...... as different platforms have different heat signatures, they will produce different performance results and therefore I tend to favor tests on more modern CPU platforms.

Setting that aside for the moment, if they are in fact trading wins on the thermal performance front, then we have to look at other factors. If we call thermal performance a draw, we still have 3 wins for the Phanteks:

-Thermal performance let's call a draw
-Weight is a draw (1240 vs 1250g is too small @ < 1 %)
-Acoustics is a draw
-Price favors Phanteks, albeit a small advantage (7%)
-Warranty favorsPhateks (5 years for the Phanteks, just 1 for the Noc) so a big win here
-Aesthetics certainly favors Phanteks. From the preceding link.

Quote:
In terms of aesthetics, Phanteks are onto another winning feature. The cooler is unique in that it comes in a selection of colours to please a wider audience and to match a range of components. There is no doubt that Phanteks were hoping to avoid the negativity that Noctua faces daily regarding their somewhat risqué choice of colour. Our red PH-TC14PE complimented my own Rampage III Extreme very well. Colour scheme aside, there is a lot to like about the dual radiator design, its engraved top aluminium plate and the octagonal fans.
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