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Looking for video card suggestions ~$300

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February 15, 2012 12:33:04 AM

I would like to purchase a video card tonight BUT, if there is something worth waiting a month for, I may be willing to wait.
I am willing to spend up to $350 if there is a big leap at that price range but would prefer to keep it under $300

I am mostly playing BF3 and Skyrim right now but I like to push graphics so I will probably re-install crysis for another run through.

Current Specs:
I currently have an MSI Hawk 5770 video card and this power supply: (I am willing to upgrade the power supply if I stay in budget but I'm sure it won't be a problem, my partner is using one of these with a Sapphire 6870)
cpu- AMD phenom II X4 965 (3.4 ghz quad core)
mobo- Asus M4a79xtd-evo
memory- G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600

I would like to stick with Amazon/Newegg for parts unless you guys know of other reliable sites with better prices. In my experience, nothing beats these guys.

I usually prefer ATI cards but the Geforce 570 seems like the best choice/value at this point according to this chart: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

Overclocking usually is more hassle/risk than it's worth but I'm open to it.

I am driving a 28" monitor at 1920x1200 resolution

Thanks in advance for all the great help. These are the best forums on the net ;) 

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February 15, 2012 12:47:58 AM

I have been eyeing that one since this morning. I typically go with ATI so I haven't had an EVGA card before. Are they generally reliable?

Oooh, didn't realize it had the 320-bit bus.

There isn't anything major on the horizon that we know of? I know the ATI 7800's should drop next month but I don't think they will beat this.

Also, what would be closest to this card at the $300 price range? Would this extra $40 really be worth it?
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February 15, 2012 12:53:20 AM

The 7870 will be out next month for around $299. From looking at the 7950 its should be nearly as fast as a GTX580. The 7770 should be on sale tonight with launch reviews tomorrow. My guess it the 7770 will run about even with a 6870. Overclocked tho it may be as strong as a 6950 1GB.
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February 15, 2012 12:57:29 AM

elbert said:
The 7870 will be out next month for around $299. From looking at the 7950 its should be nearly as fast as a GTX580. The 7770 should be on sale tonight with launch reviews tomorrow. My guess it the 7770 will run about even with a 6870. Overclocked tho it may be as strong as a 6950 1GB.



According to this: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

The 580 beats the 7970, I have a hard time seeing the 7870 matching those.

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February 15, 2012 1:03:22 AM

sheletal said:
According to this: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

The 580 beats the 7970, I have a hard time seeing the 7870 matching those.

You do realize that benchmark show the 7950 almost beating the GTX590. The 7970 beat the GTX590 bad in this benchmark. This benchmark looks to favor single nvidia GPU's. Both the 570 and 580 beating the 590 should pop out this bad benchmark.

The 7950 beat it pretty good in most games.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5476/amd-radeon-7950-revi...
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February 15, 2012 1:18:40 AM

Here also is tomshardware review of the 7950 showing about the same as anandtechs. Crysis 2's dx9 tho does show AMD needs some work on drivers.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7950-over...

In crossfire DX11 the 7950 really pulls out infront of the 580's.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7950-over...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7950-over...

If you want an Nvidia I suggest waiting till April the 12th for the GTX660 as early leak has it near a tie with the GTX580.
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February 15, 2012 1:47:21 AM

sheletal said:
How would this chart be much more reliable then? According to this, the 5970 beats out the 7950?

The 5970 is 2 GPU's of the fastest 5870 single GPU AMD made. The 6900's were the first to use the X9xx for top end single GPU's. That card is like the 6990 or 590 of today.
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February 15, 2012 1:48:22 AM

because you can see the games tested if you click the link instead of just a chart with numbers from some random benchmark with no real world applications.

the 5970 is more powerful than a 7950 because a 5970 is 2 5870s in crossfire on 1 board.
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February 15, 2012 1:54:25 AM

Thanks for clarifying. I didn't know AMD/ATI did that.
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February 15, 2012 1:57:11 AM

So what I'm seeing so far (in the ~$300 range) is that, if I wanted to buy tonight-go with the 570.

If I can wait a month, the 7870 may be around $300 and this would be the better option.

Are we all in agreement on this? Do you think the 7870 will be worth the wait? Does anyone know if the 7870 will be running on a pci-e 3.0 slot?
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February 15, 2012 1:59:43 AM

the 7870 will be pci-e 3.0 but you won't need it to run the card.

it might be worth the wait but you can't really be sure since theres no performance of the card yet.
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February 15, 2012 2:01:58 AM

sheletal said:
So what I'm seeing so far (in the ~$300 range) is that, if I wanted to buy tonight-go with the 570.

If I can wait a month, the 7870 may be around $300 and this would be the better option.

Are we all in agreement on this? Do you think the 7870 will be worth the wait? Does anyone know if the 7870 will be running on a pci-e 3.0 slot?

The 7870 should be a bit more powerful with DX 11.1 and way less power hungry. I wouldnt suggest the 570 running on that 530w PSU but the 7870 should be OK.

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Requirements
Minimum of a 550 power supply.
(Minimum recommended power supply with +12 Volt current rating of 38 Amps.)

http://www.evga.com/products/moreinfo.asp?pn=012-P3-157...


This is a overclocked 570 and you could almost run 2 6870's for the power draw of this card. That is a 6970 that the 570 is drawing way more power against.
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February 15, 2012 2:40:25 AM

elbert said:
The 7870 should be a bit more powerful with DX 11.1 and way less power hungry. I wouldnt suggest the 570 running on that 530w PSU but the 7870 should be OK.

Quote:
Requirements
Minimum of a 550 power supply.
(Minimum recommended power supply with +12 Volt current rating of 38 Amps.)

http://www.evga.com/products/moreinfo.asp?pn=012-P3-157...


This is a overclocked 570 and you could almost run 2 6870's for the power draw of this card. That is a 6970 that the 570 is drawing way more power against.
http://www.legitreviews.com/images/reviews/1692/GTX570power.jpg



Thanks for the great info. I really didn't want to wait for the 7800's but I think it may be worth it if I can keep my psu.

Are there any AMD based pci-e 3.0 motherboards out yet? I didn't have any luck finding any and it sounds like they won't be doing it for am3/am3+ motherboards from what I read.
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February 15, 2012 2:47:47 AM

you don't need pci 3.0 it doesn't help at all.
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February 15, 2012 3:12:28 AM

esrever said:
you don't need pci 3.0 it doesn't help at all.


Double the bandwidth over pci 2 (assuming I eventually upgrade mobo, cpu) won't help?
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February 15, 2012 3:16:56 AM

not really, even the 6990 can't saturate pci-e 2.0 x8 and the slot runs at x16 generally if you have 1 gpu. pci-e 3.0 won't be needed for a long time.
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February 15, 2012 4:06:53 AM

esrever said:
not really, even the 6990 can't saturate pci-e 2.0 x8 and the slot runs at x16 generally if you have 1 gpu. pci-e 3.0 won't be needed for a long time.



Good to know. Hard to tell when some things are needed and when it is just marketing fluff.
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February 15, 2012 7:59:56 AM

in my opinion you should go with the gtx 560ti 448 cores which is nearly comparable with the gtx 570 and after overclocking it gives the performance like gtx 570 so better to save up some money and get this.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

msi twinfrozr iii for its better cooling and overclocking abilty.

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

evga is one of the best manufacterer of the nvidia cards thats why.

here is the review for more clearification.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-560-ti-448-co...
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February 15, 2012 11:54:03 AM

sheletal said:
Thanks for the great info. I really didn't want to wait for the 7800's but I think it may be worth it if I can keep my psu.

Are there any AMD based pci-e 3.0 motherboards out yet? I didn't have any luck finding any and it sounds like they won't be doing it for am3/am3+ motherboards from what I read.

This is correct as no AM3+ have PCIE 3.0 but Trinity is coming out soon. This means AMD's new piledriver CPU should be just around the corner and possible an AM4. Both FM2 and AM4 motherboard should have PCIE 3 slots. Other sources say the new AM4 will be quad channel and able to house 2 dies just like G34 motherboards.

http://www.techpowerup.com/159062/AMD-Vishera-Packs-Qua...
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February 15, 2012 1:11:32 PM

sheletal said:
For those interested, the 7770 and 7750 reviews are out:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7770-7750...

Yup here is the leaked launch date slide. I have seen many posts stating March 6th for the 7870. By the leaked specs for the 7870 has over twice the steaming processors of the 7770. Would have been nice to see a crossfire benchmark.


Ummm crossfire 7770 with 2 having lower specs than the 7870 leaks.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/HD_7750_7770_Cro...
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February 25, 2012 4:25:37 AM

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February 25, 2012 8:20:32 AM

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