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- Should my video card (XFX Radeon HD 6870 1GB - Single Fan), when under heavy load even show graphics stuttering in a game like Battlefield 3 (64-man Multiplayer Servers)?
Really can't say, 'cos they don't mention that 'Quality' anywhere...![:)]( ":)")
Basically it should not, but it does seem a few people have had such problems, surprisingly in your case the CAP files haven't solved the issue. But for other using the Older Catalyst Version and the older cap files, it did solve the issue.
If it is not too much of a pain, I'd suggest reverting back to earlier CCC versions and trying it out, after a complete uninstall of the present drivers and softwares from AMD. -
alyoshka said:- Should my video card (XFX Radeon HD 6870 1GB - Single Fan), when under heavy load even show graphics stuttering in a game like Battlefield 3 (64-man Multiplayer Servers)?
Really can't say, 'cos they don't mention that 'Quality' anywhere...![:)]( ":)")
Basically it should not, but it does seem a few people have had such problems, surprisingly in your case the CAP files haven't solved the issue. But for other using the Older Catalyst Version and the older cap files, it did solve the issue.
If it is not too much of a pain, I'd suggest reverting back to earlier CCC versions and trying it out, after a complete uninstall of the present drivers and softwares from AMD.
I have tried earlier versions of the driver and the FPS is just not enough![:cry:]( ":cry:")
However, I did not uninstall the previous CAP files that came with the 12.1 CCC Drivers (Was a CAP installation even included in this driver? http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/radeon_win7-64.aspx).
Should I have uninstalled the previous CAP files?
Thanks again!![:wahoo:]( ":wahoo:")
@esrever: Ahh I see. Unfortunately I've tried both things through a third party software called BF3 Settings Editor from Realmware with no results![:sweat:]( ":sweat:")
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alyoshka said:Actually the CAPs are additive.... so it's ok, whatever you uninstalled was reinstalled in the 12.1 CAP 2
I actually did not uninstall the Previous CAPs (if there was any that came with the 12.1 WHQL Drivers)![:na:]( ":na:")
EDIT: Forgot to ask... If I overclocked my CPU instead of GPU, is there a chance of getting rid of stutters, micro-stutters, and etc...? -
Try this
what you should do if you want to find out open the console with the ~ key in game and type
Render.PerfOverlayVisible 1
this will display a performance graph in the bottom left of your screen with numbers below it
looks like this![]()
Get screen shots when the stuttering takes place and during normal play. Try and post them here....
Here's a good read too... I quoted Frito here...
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1655502 -
alyoshka said:Try this
what you should do if you want to find out open the console with the ~ key in game and type
Render.PerfOverlayVisible 1
this will display a performance graph in the bottom left of your screen with numbers below it
looks like this
http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp33/Frito_023/bf32011-11-2408-53-17-47.jpg
Get screen shots when the stuttering takes place and during normal play. Try and post them here....
Here's a good read too... I quoted Frito here...
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1655502
I've actually been using the render.perfoverlayvisible 1 command for a little while. I've noticed than when I do get the stutter, both my CPU and GPU spike. The sudden spike is shown as 2 massive vertical lines for both CPU and GPU (GPU = Green Line and CPU = Yellow Line?) and neither spikes by itself... The only times I see huge spikes are when they are both "spiking" together.
Do you think the fact that both CPU and GPU spike together show a problem in the motherboard? How about a problem in general?
- Usually the spike lines that are shown are not that very big. It exceeds just above the performance overlay monitor outlines but, when I'm getting these "micro-stutters" every 5 - 10 seconds, it turns the game into a frustration simulator![:fou:]( ":fou:")
P.S.: I just had a pretty good run with my video card overclocked for about an hour or so... Not sure if the fix is in overclocking or underclocking. I've tested underclocking my video card and in some situations I see a vast improvement, but in other situations, same stuttering followed by sudden FPS drops... -
When I'm experiencing sudden drops in FPS it does definitely look like this most of the time.
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But, my yellow line (CPU) seems to be higher than the green (GPU), so I would guess that my CPU is "sorta" bottlenecking my GPU?
EDIT: Do you think I should try an overclock my CPU? I've read on some forums this Processor is awesome when it comes to overclocking and also saw someone reach 3.45ghz @ 1.376v. He stated that he was using a stock cooler and that load temperatures were around 55C. -
Sorry for the long delay in replying again, but I seem to have fixed the stuttering which is just awesome....
![:sol:]( ":sol:")
My current settings have helped in identifying the problems but, it may not be too accurate. If there is anyone out there that thinks your having similar issues as I am, here are some of the things I did:
- Achieved a STABLE overclock at 3.45ghz (with Cooler Master Hyper 212+ and no voltage adjustments) which greatly improved the gap between my CPU line and GPU line in the in-game performance monitor (render.perfoverlayvisible 1).
- This reduced the frequency at which the stuttering/sudden FPS drops happened.
Afterwards, I started messing around with certified (WHQL) and non-certified (preview/RC) AMD drivers for my video card.
- AMD recommends that you use their latest certified WHQL drivers for your video card (currently 12.1 CCC and 12.1 CAP 3). However, I found that the AMD 12.x (8.95 January 17th) drivers to be the best, as they delivered the best performance and stability...
- I found these drivers from the Guru3D forums. Use this at your own risk as I don't believe they are currently certified.
LINK: http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=357581
- I believe you should be okay as long as you perform a clean install but, please go through the forums and decide on your own if you would like to try them or not. By clean install I mean, uninstalling your CCC through programs and features then using ATIman Uninstaller or Phyxion Driver Sweeper to remove any remaining files/folders of your previous drivers. Reboot. Install new drivers. Reboot.
This is pretty much all I did.
@rivman: Did your sapphire come @ 980mhz core clock? If you did some overclocking I suggest you actually bring those back down to stock reference speeds @ 900mhz core clock and 1050mhz memory. I noticed that overclocking my video card further increased stuttering. However, if you used a program like MSI Afterburner or Sapphire Trixx, please keep them because I've seen on some forums that the GPUs tend to start messing up quite heavily once it goes past 75 degrees Celsius. Both TRIXX and AFTERBURNER have fan speed customizations where you can set the speed of the fan (in percentage) according to the temperature of your GPU. Also, have you tried to disable hyperthreading (I think that's what it's called or somewhere along those lines, I'm not too sure![:na:]( ":na:")
) for your CPU in BIOS?
My current custom fan speeds only rise above the temperature of the GPU starting around 55 degrees because I don't want my fan to start screaming when I'm watching a movie...
I have also tried the 12.3 RC 8.95 January 31st (modded by asder00 for most AMD Radeon HD series. Original is only for the HD 7000 series) drivers which are suppose to be best for Battlefield 3 specifically according to these benchmarks from here:
LINK: http://benchmark3d.com/amd-catalyst-12-3-rc-8-95-31-january-benchmark
Also, here is the link to the Guru3D forums post: http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=358269
The difference in FPS loss between the 2 drivers were minimal in BF3 specifically.
When I tested the January 31st drivers, it was just too unstable for my rig... So I ended up sticking with Jan 17th drivers which puts out the best performance by far from any other drivers. However, your results may vary depending on your system specifications.
It's ALL trial and error. If your consistently running into issues with Battlefield 3, your not alone...Google what you're experiencing and check what other people have found the actual issue to be. LOTS of people are experiencing issues with this game whether minor or major.
I hope I was able to help some fellow users on here and thanks again for your efforts.![:sleep:]( ":sleep:")
EDIT: Sapphire Trixx may not work with the 12.x 8.95 January 17th drivers. It didn't work for me. I believe if you do some searching online there's a workaround for it but, MSI Afterburner worked fine for me. -
In addition to the post above,
I wanted to make sure that people with similar cards as myself such as: Radeon HD 6800 series or Nvidia GeForce GT 560 or 560TI, make sure to keep your texture quality @ at least medium and never above high. I feel like such a noob![;)]( ";)")
but, this setting determines how much of your virtual memory is used on your video card. If you have a GPU with 1024mb GDDR5, texture quality on ultra immediately takes away 500 mb of virtual memory.... Seeing as there is no eye catching difference between high and ultra, you should be just fine on high. Also, I'm not too sure on this one but, I felt that keeping my texture quality on medium was in some way limiting my cards VRAM usage and made the card stutter/micro stutter when the card was trying to use above 4-500 mb of VRAM.
For people who have just decent quad cores/older quad cores, look at the post above and try to overclock your CPU's clock speed. I'm currently using a AMD Athlon II X4 640 @ 3.45 ghz OC'ed (default @ 3.0 ghz) with CPU NB Freq @ 2300 mhz and HT Link @ 2070 mhz. These settings were stable and my CPU's temperature never went above 48 degrees Celsius. However, I will be aiming for higher clocks as I am looking to upgrade my CPU and Motherboard soon and IMO, I thought this was TOO stable hehe![:D]( ":D")
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For those of you wanting to overclock your CPU, a stock CPU cooler will not cut it.... The aftermarket cooler I'm using in the previous post is about $30 and IMO, I don't think you'd need anything better than that for moderate overclocking. -
This might be worth a try: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/334687-33-micro-stutter
I wrote that post as mainly applying to Crossfire but what you just posted about "virtual memory" leads me to believe it might work for single HD 6870 systems as well.![:sol:]( ":sol:")
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Hey guys, this is another update to solve the issues above posted.
The new 12.2 WHQL AMD Drivers are currently working flawlessly... If you any of you are still using the 8.95 January 17th drivers I suggest you remove and uninstall ALL amd related driver files and make a clean install of the new 12.2 WHQL.
Improvements so far:
- Gained an extra 20-30 FPS in Battlefield 3.![:o]( ":o")
ridiculous...
- No (micro)stuttering what so ever (even with long hours of play).
- Downclocked my CPU to 3.2ghz from 3.45ghz.
Just absolute awesomeness.![:)]( ":)")
I feel like I'm finally using a HD 6870 GPU to its promised performance.
Hope this helps. Thanks.
Basically it should not, but it does seem a few people have had such problems, surprisingly in your case the CAP files haven't solved the issue. But for other using the Older Catalyst Version and the older cap files, it did solve the issue.
not the greatest CPU for gaming.....
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ridiculous...