I5 3570k vs i7 2700k

[jackattack923]

Hey all!

BUILD: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dTcB

I know there's some debate in both me and between users who have helped me over which CPU I should get. I originally made the build right above this with the 2500k in mind, but then I noticed MicroCenter's $50 off with processor deal. Now I'm trying to decide between a Sandy i7 or an Ivy i5.

My purpose of this PC build is as follows: It needs to be fantastic at multitasking between chrome (20-30 tabs at a time), microsoft office, adobe after effects/photoshops (one at a times open), etc. If the i5 can handle that great. It also needs to be good for the Adobe software itself, such as Photoshop or After Effects. In the end it also needs to be a decent gamer, nothing amazing, nothing terrible. I had a terrible PC for gaming so anythings really a step up, but still. I don't really ever want to be in a freezing situation.

Lastly, please keep in mind my mind is set between these two processors. I'm not considering anything better than an i7-2700k, due to budget. I'm not reworking things, this is set.

Is the i7 worth it for me, as well as a $50+8.665% sales tax?

Thanks,
Jack

 

[Guest]

As you can see here the top ivy cpu was slightly slower than the 32 nm Core i7-2600K:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ivy-bridge-overclocking-core-i7-3770k,3198-14.html

With I7 2700k you will be more than fine.

This is why i say no to the new ivy cpu's:

http://giatrakis.wix.com/john-giatrakis#!home/mainPage

I hope that was helpfull enough.

 

[jackattack923]

So in other words the 2700k would heavily outperform the 3570k, and would be better for my purpose?

And out of curiosity, would the same logic apply for the 2500k vs. 3570k, you'd pick the 2500k? (Nice writeup btw, I assume it is your from URL?)

 

[Guest]

I will never get an ivy cpu and my second link explains why in details.

You will need 8 Gbytes ram minimum and 2 ssd in raid 0 will be more than enough to cover any need you have running all these programs together.

 

[xtreme5]

Not so heavily but in multi-tasking stuff like you've mention above 2700k be the stronger there if for gaming then there is definitely NO difference between those two cpu's, the reason why is the i7 2700k better because it has hyper-threading technology which allow 8 logical cores and have 4 extra threads.

 

[Sakkura]

The i5-3570k is just a modest step up from an i5-2500k. The i7-2700k will outperform it by a significant margin.

... Apart from the IGP of course, but you have your graphics card taking care of that side of things anyway.

The question is whether that extra performance will actually make any difference on your end. It certainly won't make a noticeable difference in games.

 

[InvalidError]

I will never get an ivy cpu and my second link explains why in details.

Future CPUs will continue to pack increasingly high power densities and will likely exhibit even higher peak temperatures. You are going to upgrade to something "worse" than IB sooner or later, unless you die or give up on computers before then.

 

[jackattack923]

I will never get an ivy cpu and my second link explains why in details.

You will need 8 Gbytes ram minimum and 2 ssd in raid 0 will be more than enough to cover any need you have running all these programs together.

I'm only buying one SSD, probably one of these:: (any preference? Price wise I want the Patriot, but Idk how it is. Otherwise, maybe Corsair?)
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0370701
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0377028
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0364779
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0364541

So it seems pretty clear: Go for the 2700k. I will plan that.

 

[jackattack923]

Also - weak question. I haven't built in a while, so excuse my inner-loser. Do I need an Anti Static grounding wrist strap? Or nah?

 

[Sakkura]

Also - weak question. I haven't built in a while, so excuse my inner-loser. Do I need an Anti Static grounding wrist strap? Or nah?

It's not required, but it's nice for peace of mind. If you don't have one, you just have to remember to ground yourself by touching eg. the power supply from time to time.

 

[Guest]

Future CPUs will continue to pack increasingly high power densities and will likely exhibit even higher peak temperatures. You are going to upgrade to something "worse" than IB sooner or later, unless you die or give up on computers before then.

Opteron is my next choice.

I'm only buying one SSD, probably one of these:: (any preference? Price wise I want the Patriot, but Idk how it is. Otherwise, maybe Corsair?)
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0370701
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0377028
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0364779
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0364541

So it seems pretty clear: Go for the 2700k. I will plan that.

I said go with 2 ssd in raid 0 in order to get closer to 1 Gbyte/sec in storage with 2 satta iii 6 Gbit/sec is possbile and you needed.

 

[Solandri]

Ivy Bridge is a die shrink. The circuits of the CPU portion are identical to Sandy Bridge, just smaller. The only significant improvements are an overhauled GPU, and some power savings.

So the product which will benefit most from Ivy Bridge will be laptops using only the integrated GPU. For desktops, the i7-2700K's hyperthreading, 8MB cache, and 3.5/3.9 GHz speed will be significantly faster than the i5-3570K's no hyperthreading, 6MB cache, and 3.4/3.8 GHz speed.

Look over the spec sheets:
http://ark.intel.com/products/65520/
http://ark.intel.com/products/61275/

The only reasons to prefer the Ivy Bridge i5 are if:
- there's some new Ivy Bridge feature which you need
- the i5 is significantly cheaper
- you need the lower power draw
- you will use the Intel integrated GPU for 3D gaming instead of adding a video card
- if you will be using Quick Sync extensively (I'm not sure which CPU wins in this case)

For i5-2500K vs i5-3570K, that will really come down to whether the advantages of the Ivy Bridge i5 are worth the extra price to you.

 

[xtreme5]

@Giatakris, why are you suggesting him to with 2 ssd. Isn't one adequate with large capacity.

 

[Guest]

@Giatakris, why are you suggesting him to with 2 ssd. Isn't one adequate with large capacity.

He wrote "My purpose of this PC build is as follows: It needs to be fantastic at multitasking between chrome (20-30 tabs at a time), microsoft office, adobe after effects/photoshops (one at a times open), etc. If the i5 can handle that great. It also needs to be good for the Adobe software itself, such as Photoshop or After Effects. In the end it also needs to be a decent gamer, nothing amazing, nothing terrible. I had a terrible PC for gaming so anythings really a step up, but still. I don't really ever want to be in a freezing situation."

And I said 1 GByte/sec raid 0 volum with 2 sdds is really helpfull to this situation more than enything...

 

[jackattack923]

Ivy Bridge is a die shrink. The circuits of the CPU portion are identical to Sandy Bridge, just smaller. The only significant improvements are an overhauled GPU, and some power savings.

So the product which will benefit most from Ivy Bridge will be laptops using only the integrated GPU. For desktops, the i7-2700K's hyperthreading, 8MB cache, and 3.5/3.9 GHz speed will be significantly faster than the i5-3570K's no hyperthreading, 6MB cache, and 3.4/3.8 GHz speed.

Look over the spec sheets:
http://ark.intel.com/products/65520/
http://ark.intel.com/products/61275/

The only reasons to prefer the Ivy Bridge i5 are if:
- there's some new Ivy Bridge feature which you need
- the i5 is significantly cheaper
- you need the lower power draw
- you will use the Intel integrated GPU for 3D gaming instead of adding a video card
- if you will be using Quick Sync extensively (I'm not sure which CPU wins in this case)

For i5-2500K vs i5-3570K, that will really come down to whether the advantages of the Ivy Bridge i5 are worth the extra price to you.

I can afford it. But Giatakris, only have enough for 1 SSD on my budget.

If you yourself would agree that for about $54 more this is worth it, I'll do it.

 

[jackattack923]

But not required. I plan on eventually getting more space, so that's a thing I can do later.

*few* I thought you meant it was REQUIRED. That's a reliever. That would of nailed in the coffin the i5.

 

[Guest]

If you use the alt + tab to travel through the programs even 8 Gbytes can't help you, the swap file on the disk starts to operate movig up or down the memory parts and i say a raid 0 volume can help him more than any processor!!

Why do i have to write so much explanations always?

 

[jackattack923]

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