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First homebuilt gaming computer any tip?

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April 23, 2012 8:14:12 PM

hi I've just decided that I would try to build a gaming computer from the ground for the first time ever, so I was wondering if someone could give it a look and tell me whether there is something that won't work, and just some general tip. thanks a lot :) 

this is the system:
Processor/CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-3820 Processor
CPU cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 412S
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X79-UD3 (rev. 1.0)
RAM: Kingston HyperX 4 x 4 GB
Graphic Card: crossfire 2x MSI R6850-PM2D1GD5/OC (1 GB)
HDD: WD Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500 GB
SSD: OCZ Agility 3 Series Solid State Disk 240 GB
Optical disc: LiteOn IHAS124 (Sort) (OEM)
Case: Cooler Master CM Storm Scout
Power Supply: Cooler Master GX Lite 700W

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April 23, 2012 8:31:16 PM
April 23, 2012 8:40:17 PM

Yeah it's hard to recommend a configuration if we don't know what your budget is. I can say that a 240GB SSD is massive overkill - cut that in half to a 128GB Crucial M4 or Samsung 830 and upgrade your GPU to a 7970 or 680.

If you're going X79 make sure your RAM is a quad channel kit and not a dual channel.
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April 23, 2012 8:53:18 PM

My budge is around 10000 DKK which is around 1800 USD. but I live in Denmark so I can't Import hardware from US because they will get taxed a lot!

here is what this cost here in Denmark so you can get a general idea of how much I have to pay for each.

Intel® Core™ i7-3820 Processor: 352,82 USD

Cooler Master Hyper 412S CPU Cooler: 51,01 USD

Gigabyte GA-X79-UD3 (rev. 1.0): 262,80 USD

Kingston HyperX 4 x 4 GB: 139,96 USD

2x MSI R6850-PM2D1GD5/OC (1 GB): 342,41 USD

OCZ Agility 3 Series Solid State Disk 240 GB: 310,46 USD

LiteOn IHAS124 (Sort) (OEM): 28,77 USD

Cooler Master CM Storm Scout: 113,31 USD

Cooler Master GX Lite 700W: 109,78 USD

also the main reason why I write to this forum is because I've never built a PC before. so I would love to heard if this won't work for some reason or if some of the hardware is bad.
April 23, 2012 9:10:55 PM

Is there a site that you do buy from? We can base systems around local availability and pricing.

I still say the SSD is overkill and it's always better to have the single strongest GPU you can get for the money than two weaker ones. I also wouldn't recommend that PSU either. Cooler Master has a reputation of phony business practices with their PSU line - I wouldn't trust 'em.

Try this for an $1800 build:

Case: Fractal Design Arc MIDI - $99.99 (US)
PSU: Corsair Enthusiast Series TX 750 - $104.99 (US)
Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 - $169.99 (US)
CPU: 3.30GHz Intel Core i5-2500K - $219.99 (US)
Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo - $34.99 (US)
RAM: 8GB Crucial Ballistix Sport 1600MHz 1.5V - $46.99 (US)
SSD: 128GB Crucial M4 - $159.99 (US)
HD: 1TB Samsung Spinpoint F4 - $129.99 (US)
Optical: Lite On DVD Burner - $17.99 (US)
Video Card: EVGA Geforce GTX 680 - $499.99 (US)

Total: $1,484.

Way less but you get the best video card on the market and you don't have to compromise on anything else. You can use the difference and get a nice monitor, a Windows license, or any nice peripherals you may need.
April 23, 2012 10:02:49 PM

I use a site called "www.edbpriser.dk"

also I don't understand how come it is better to buy the single strongest GPU instead of two not as strong? it seem that I got so much more power for my money if I buy two not as strong compared to the strongest. also the reason I took that motherboard and CPU was because they seem very good, so I thought that when my GPU got too far behind I would just buy two "new" or not the newest at that time again and then get far more power for less money one more time.

you said you could base you system around local availability, check around Copenhagen, also I should be able to get pretty much everywhere in Denmark since it is a very small country, so if you find anything somewhere else I don't mind going there.

here is the cost of what you linked in places I could find it:

Case: Fractal Design Arc MIDI - 117,90 USD
PSU: Corsair Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 - 135,55 USD or Corsair Enthusiast Series Modular TX750M - 153,20 USD
Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 - 176,50 USD
CPU: 3.30GHZ Intel Core i5 I5-2500K 6 MB - 254,16 USD
Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo - 47,65 USD
RAM: Crucial DDR3 BallistiX Sport 1600MHz 8GB - 70,60 USD
SSD: Crucial M4 128 GB - 176,50 USD
HD: Samsung Spinpoint F4EG HD204UI 2 TB - 164,14 USD
Optical: Lite On DVD Burner - 56,48 USD
GPU: EVGA Geforce GTX 680 - 635,39 USD

all in all 1980 USD. so more then the system I said.

btw thanks for your help so far :) 
April 24, 2012 4:49:27 AM

Slaite said:
I use a site called "www.edbpriser.dk"

all in all 1980 USD. so more then the system I said.

btw thanks for your help so far :) 


wait little more, don't buy anything yet. yestarday was ivy bridge release and prices must fall on 2nd generation CPUs. I think Nvidia "kepler" models should release soon, so price fall on Nvidia GPUs is also possible.
April 24, 2012 11:26:04 AM

When you say i should wait a little, how long would you say that is? Is it a month or two? Or is it three to four months?
April 24, 2012 12:24:28 PM

Slaite said:
When you say i should wait a little, how long would you say that is? Is it a month or two? Or is it three to four months?

maybe not more then one month. at least exact information should appear in may, but I can't guarantee anything. also price falls are depended on performance difference between older and newer models. anyway if you don't have problems with your budget it doesn't worth waiting.(I think so). it's up to you :) 
April 24, 2012 3:07:22 PM

when I see your answers, you guys seem to go for 3.30GHz Intel Core i5-2500K CPU and the Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 motherboard, and then a stronger GPU then what I chose. what I went for was 3.6GHz Intel Core i7-3820 Processor and Gigabyte GA-X79-UD3 (rev. 1.0) motherboard, the reason I took those was because the Gigabyte GA-X79-UD3 (rev. 1.0) had 2x PCI Express x16 slots, running at x16, so as far as I understand this means that if I SLI or crossfire two graphic cards they will run better? and the reason for 3.6GHz Intel Core i7-3820 was because it had the LGA2011 socket like the motherboard and it is the cheapest with more then 3GHz CPU I can buy in Denmark. I then went for 2x Radeon 6850 crossfire, because they seemed very good if you compare their power and low price. and because I thought that within a few years when they got too slow, I could just buy two new graphic cards and crossfire/SLI them, both because it seems that crossfire/SLI gives more power for your money and with my good motherboard and CPU then I wouldn't have to change my motherboard or CPU within a few years.

you guys go for the Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 mother board its specifications says "2 x PCI Express 3.0 x16 slots (PCIE2/PCIE3: single at x16 (PCIE2) / x8 (PCIE3) or dual at x8/x8 mode)" doesn't that mean if I want to use SLI or crossfire they will run slower?

could you explain why you chose what you chose and why you think it is smarter then what I chose? now that you have my reason behind my choice?
and if there is anything I've misunderstood please tell me :) 

sorry for my English and thanks a ton for the help I've got so far :) 
April 24, 2012 4:25:12 PM

Read Tom's hardware article about x16 PCIE vs x8 PCIE. It barely makes any difference at all. At most, you may see a 5% change in performance.

SLI usually gives you slightly better performance for the money, but Single cards will be much less of a hassle, consume less power and in the case of the 680 GTX, are much more future proof. Also, people report better image quality with single card solutions, as SLI can cause annoying flickering shadows etc.

Also, 2x6850 will be slower than 1x680 in absolute terms. I would think that a 1x680's peformance would be closer to that of a 2x6950 or 2x560Ti. Check the benchmarks here at Toms.
April 24, 2012 4:44:39 PM

so the build g-unit1111 posted is the smartest?

Case: Fractal Design Arc MIDI
PSU: Corsair Enthusiast Series TX 750
Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme 4
CPU: 3.30GHz Intel Core i5-2500K
Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo
RAM: 8GB Crucial Ballistix Sport 1600MHz 1.5V
SSD: 128GB Crucial M4
HD: 1TB Samsung Spinpoint F4
Optical: Lite On DVD Burner
Video Card: EVGA Geforce GTX 680

in that case I guess I'll go for that :)  mishonacro said that some of the hardware would get reduced price soon, do you think it would be worth the wait? or is the price cut minimal?

thanks for your help :) 
April 24, 2012 5:06:05 PM

GA-X79-UD3 has 4 PCI-E X16 slots. and Z77 Extreme 4 has only 2. if you install 2 gpus on Z77 Extreme 4 they will both work on X8, but there isn't much difference in X8 and X16 PCI-E. there is only 7-8% performance difference if you are playing on three monitors.(5760×1200).

Sendy Bridge cpus are better for gaming then Sendy Bridge-E and cost much less + in gaming GPUs are much more important than CPUs. that're the reasons why I suggest to get I5 2500K cpu and stronger GPU(e.g. GTX680) :) 
April 24, 2012 5:15:13 PM

As I know, possible price fall on I5 2500K would be 40$. wait for a week, if it doesn't matter :) 
April 24, 2012 6:20:02 PM

thanks for your help guys :) 
I guess I'll buy the system G-unit1111 said it seems awesome :) 
April 24, 2012 6:23:57 PM

Slaite said:
thanks for your help guys :) 
I guess I'll buy the system G-unit1111 said it seems awesome :) 


Yeah I tried to price based around the site you posted earlier but it didn't work in Google translator. :lol: 

But I really try not to recommend junk or cut corners on builds or limit your long term expansion plans, that system will be really solid for the next few years. I'm definitely upgrading mine accordingly.
April 24, 2012 6:26:09 PM

Slaite said:
thanks for your help guys :) 
I guess I'll buy the system G-unit1111 said it seems awesome :) 

your welcome :) 
April 24, 2012 6:26:58 PM

Slaite said:
thanks for your help guys :) 
I guess I'll buy the system G-unit1111 said it seems awesome :) 

your welcome :) 
April 24, 2012 6:39:54 PM

Slaite said:
thanks for your help guys :) 
I guess I'll buy the system G-unit1111 said it seems awesome :) 

your welcome :) 
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