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April 23, 2012 9:55:13 PM

Approximate Purchase Date:Within the next month(May)

Budget Range:$2000-$3000

System Usage from Most to Least Important:Gaming/Internet/movies/(don't want a heater in my room, better if it can generate cool air :)  I live in Las Vegas it get 120F out here in the summer.


Parts Not Required:keyboard, mouse, speakers

Preferred Website(s) for Parts:newegg.com/frys.com

Country:US

Parts Preferences:by brand or type: Intel,NVIDIA,ASUS,EVGA,Etc

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Monitor Resolution: I got no idea i want to run it on a 32-40 LED HD TV


Additional Comments: PLANNING TO UPGRADE this system thats probably why i choose the 2011 MoBo for later use.
Watercooling from Ek would be nice i was looking for Ek HF360 its around $300, I want it to look nice not really for cooling( the cylinder shape reservoir)If u guys got any better ideas tell me please. Want to run it on a Tv thats going to be mounted on the wall thats around 4-5 feets away from me IDK if this is going to work or not(some people say is not clear if u sit too close) if not Im thinking of a 24 or 22 inch monitor Pretty much im going to spend about $2000ish just on parts not including the watercooling and monitor/Tv.

Hum I was looking to build these together but idk if it'll work out or not please give me some advice.

COOLER MASTER HAF X Blue Edition RC-942-KKN3 Black Steel / Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case with Black Interior and Four Blue LED Fans-1x 140mm rear fan, 1x 200mm top fan, 1x 200mm side fan, and 1x 230mm front fan

CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX850 (CMPSU-850AX) 850W ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply

EVGA 025-P3-1579-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) HD 2560MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Intel 520 Series Cherryville SSDSC2CW120A3K5 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 Desktop Memory Model CMZ16GX3M4X1866C9

Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

HT | OMEGA STRIKER 7.1 Channels PCI Interface Sound Card

ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM

NZXT SEN-001LX Sentry LX Aluminum dual bay fan controller

Ek H30 360 HFX Advanced Liquid Cooling Kit (EK-KIT H3O 360 HFX) (FROM FROZENCPU.Com)

VIZIO
32" Class 1080p 120Hz LED™ LCD HDTV(FROM COSTCO.Com)

ALL PARTS FROM NEWEGG cept for the watercooling system&TV monitor

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April 23, 2012 9:59:22 PM

I wouldn't bother with the i7 to be honest. You are going to see next to no difference in games for that extra $100 and you obviously don't need an i7 over an i5 for internet/movies etc.
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April 23, 2012 10:01:36 PM

No video editing = no i7. Simple as that.
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April 24, 2012 1:00:18 AM

jmsellars1 said:
I wouldn't bother with the i7 to be honest. You are going to see next to no difference in games for that extra $100 and you obviously don't need an i7 over an i5 for internet/movies etc.



Hey may u look at my thread again i put all the parts that i was going to build. I understand so many people told me i5 is good enough for gaming but i feel like spending $100 dollar more to get a i7 is not going to bother me too much. My other pretty important question was that can it run on a 32-40 inch Led TV? And will it be blurry if i sit within 4-5 feet?
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April 24, 2012 1:10:37 AM

keivngzx said:
Hey may u look at my thread again i put all the parts that i was going to build. I understand so many people told me i5 is good enough for gaming but i feel like spending $100 dollar more to get a i7 is not going to bother me too much. My other pretty important question was that can it run on a 32-40 inch Led TV? And will it be blurry if i sit within 4-5 feet?

Okay so 1: You don't need an i7. 2: Get an i5 instead and use the extra money to help pay for a quality monitor. Running on a TV is terrible unless you spend a boat load of money on a wonderful tv that has low latency. Besides, if you aren't doing any sort of video editing/rendering/ 3d simulation, you won't need the i7, and can save $100.
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April 24, 2012 1:16:23 AM

jrwizbang said:
Okay so 1: You don't need an i7. 2: Get an i5 instead and use the extra money to help pay for a quality monitor. Running on a TV is terrible unless you spend a boat load of money on a wonderful tv that has low latency. Besides, if you aren't doing any sort of video editing/rendering/ 3d simulation, you won't need the i7, and can save $100.

Well how much do u mean by a boat load of money for a Tv. Over the summer I game like 12hours+ pretty much whenever im home. My eye gets tired and i don't want to be blind cuz of this ... so i thought gaming on a 32inch Led 1080p tv would be better and its going to be mounted on the wall. And this is probably why im here to get help idk if this TV idea is good or not money is not too much of a problem.
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April 24, 2012 1:38:23 AM

keivngzx said:
Well how much do u mean by a boat load of money for a Tv. Over the summer I game like 12hours+ pretty much whenever im home. My eye gets tired and i don't want to be blind cuz of this ... so i thought gaming on a 32inch Led 1080p tv would be better and its going to be mounted on the wall. And this is probably why im here to get help idk if this TV idea is good or not money is not too much of a problem.


Get a decent monitor. It will help with eye strain and there is a lot lower latency, and will feel much smoother, look nicer, and is just all around better.
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April 24, 2012 1:56:41 AM

jrwizbang said:
Get a decent monitor. It will help with eye strain and there is a lot lower latency, and will feel much smoother, look nicer, and is just all around better.

Can you please give me a link or brand & type?
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April 24, 2012 3:09:01 AM

http://www.overclock.net/t/1225919/yamakasi-catleap-mon...

^ 27 inch 2560x1440 IPS panel with a big following. ~$350-400 on ebay.

I don't have the GPUs to support it in a multi-monitor setup, I don't like glossy screens, and the 16:9 ratio bothers me so I got one of these HP 24" 1920x1200 IPS panels, also an awesome deal:

http://www.provantage.com/hp-zr2440w-24-led-backlit-ips...

EDIT:
Just saw the price on this Dell U2412M (same as HP above, more or less) drop to $290, which is ridiculous.
http://www.provantage.com/dell-469-1137~7DELL1VY.htm
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April 24, 2012 3:55:43 AM

naf said:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1225919/yamakasi-catleap-mon...

^ 27 inch 2560x1440 IPS panel with a big following. ~$350-400 on ebay.

I don't have the GPUs to support it in a multi-monitor setup, I don't like glossy screens, and the 16:9 ratio bothers me so I got one of these HP 24" 1920x1200 IPS panels, also an awesome deal:

http://www.provantage.com/hp-zr2440w-24-led-backlit-ips...

EDIT:
Just saw the price on this Dell U2412M (same as HP above, more or less) drop to $290, which is ridiculous.
http://www.provantage.com/dell-469-1137~7DELL1VY.htm

Ty for your advice, so the biggest monitor is a 27inch right?
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April 24, 2012 4:16:54 AM

You've got $3000 and all you want is a GTX 570 for a GAMING computer? Well, firstly get a better GPU. At least a Radeon 7950, or a 7970 for an extra $100, but only for a few more frames. You can always overclock the 7950 to near i.e 3 frames 7970 levels :) 

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April 24, 2012 4:27:01 AM

You could get a 2560x1600 30 inch from HP, Dell, NEC or others, but they're $1,000+. The cheapest 2560x1440 27 inch I know of other than that korean one is from HP for $615 on provantage: http://www.provantage.com/hewlett-packard-hp-xw476a8-ab...
But 1080p 26/27" monitors are common, if the lower resolution is okay with you.

And I agree with oddlyinsane, with that budget, find a way to get a 7950 or 680 in there.
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April 24, 2012 4:29:15 AM

Forgot to mention. If a GTX 680 is available, (which it probably isnt) get it. You can also probably Crossfire the 7950. 2 of those probably cost around $1000. Thats $2000 left for the rest of the system.

Also, dont bother getting anything other than the 2500k in regards to the CPU. You can also probably squeeze in a 240GB SSD.
Sorry for not mentioning prices, i could if you wanted me to.

Regards,
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April 24, 2012 4:47:00 AM

If you want picture quality and low eyestrain, an IPS panel is a must. HP, Dell and NEC offer 27" and 30" panels but they are ~1000+. If I had the money, that would easily be a must in the budget. IPS technology easily surpasses that of panels TVs (LCD or LED). LCD and LED are just backlight technologies, not panels (what actually makes a difference).

Also get a GTX680 or HD7970 if you plan to run at those resolutions.

a 2500k is more than enough. You can also get an Ivy Bridge i5 but there aren't much benefits. No video encoding = no i7. If you plan on getting a 2011 socket, you are straight up wasting your money. Haswell is coming out next year so current mobo sockets will be obsolete (new socket) if you plan on gradual upgrades.

Agreed, you can probably squeeze in a larger SSD, preferably the Mushkin Chronos Deluxe which has been on sale quite a bit. Also a Tier 1 SSD.
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April 24, 2012 5:07:16 AM

Cut cost here:
- Get an i5 if it's for gaming and general use. You seriously won't see better performance with an i7 (this goes for Sandy or Ivy bridge).
- Todays games don't use more than 8 gigs of RAM. If you need more in the future, it's simple to add. I'd get 2x4GB.
- Ditch the sound card unless you require 7.1 audio. Onboard sound is great these days, and in some cases will be better than discrete.

With money saved, get:
- HD 7950 or GTX 580
- Bigger SSD if you want to install multiple games on it. If not, 120 will be sufficient for the OS.
- The best monitor(s) you can get. If you choose well, you'll use this component longer than every other one.
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April 24, 2012 5:10:02 AM

With that kind of money you can get a great Lga2011 build and sli 680gtx's, it all depends on how far you are going to go. I personally got my build with around 2.5k but I think its more future proof than a 2600k or 2700k when multicore games come out http://www.squidoo.com/lensmasters/mauros34
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April 24, 2012 5:33:50 AM

keivngzx said:
Well how much do u mean by a boat load of money for a Tv. Over the summer I game like 12hours+ pretty much whenever im home. My eye gets tired and i don't want to be blind cuz of this ... so i thought gaming on a 32inch Led 1080p tv would be better and its going to be mounted on the wall. And this is probably why im here to get help idk if this TV idea is good or not money is not too much of a problem.



game less? 12+ hours is bad for your health... :fou: 
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April 24, 2012 6:31:29 AM

I bought my BF3 game and I play like 2 hrs a week max. Guess FPS is not for me. I'm going to probably buy Skyrim or DBZ.
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April 24, 2012 6:41:17 AM

some suggestion-no matter how big your tv is,it's no more than 1080p.for gaming,monitor >tv.a smaller (23-24")1080p monitor provides better image quality becasue it has higher pixel density.watercooling isn't really necessary.the cooling solution i suggested is very good.LGA2011 is more 'future' proof then SB or IB and i am sure you can fit a x79 system in your budget.
my $3k pc for you-
silverstone fortress ft02b case-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
samsung f4 2tb-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Asus 24" lem 1080p monitor-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
silverstone strider gold 850w psu-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
kingston hyperx 16gb 1600mhz 1.65v quad channel kit-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
asus sabertooth x79-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
i7 3820-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
cougar vortex 12cm fan x2-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
prolimatech megahalems rev.c -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
lite on black 12x blu ray-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
samsung 830 256gb ssd-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MSi twinfrozer iii gtx 680-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
total-$2537
you still have plenty of cash left to add another 680 in SLi.
highlights-
one of the best case!just google it.
put two of those cougar fans on the megahalems and BAM!you have a high end aircooler without making it insanely huge like D14 or phenteks.
for a single 1080p setup,you don't need 680 SLi but still if you want,get one more.the one i suggested has one of the best aftermarket cooler and a lot of overclocking potential.
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April 24, 2012 6:51:25 AM

I officially don't like my monitor for watching videos. I tried watching a video on full screen and I could see a lot of blur.
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April 24, 2012 7:37:45 AM

i think water cooling is not needed as one should oc upto 4.5 ghz and after that the power consumption increases as well as the heat generated increase but gains get diminished.

cooler master hyper 212 evo can oc and i5 2500k upto 4.5 ghz stable. as you mentioned to have hot enviromnet so i choose noctua nh d-14.

my recommendation

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx...

i summrise the build

intel i5 2500k processor
noctua nh d-14 cpu cooler
asrock z77 extreme6 motherboard
corsair vengence 2x4gb 1600mhz ddr3 ram
2 x sapphire radeon hd 7950 oc edition graphic card
pc power and cooling silencer mkii 950w 80+ silver power supply
crucial m4 128gb sata3 ssd os and programs
wd carvier black 500gb 7200rpm hdd for games
seagate baracuda 3 tb 7200rpm hdd for storage of movies , music , etc
cooler master haf X full tower black
lg 12x blue ray dvd bruner

and

Dell UltraSharp U2711 Black 27" HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor

total = $2,927.88

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April 24, 2012 7:40:45 AM

@azeem,that's personal preference.for me, monitor>tv.
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April 24, 2012 7:49:43 AM

serialkiller said:
i think water cooling is not needed as one should oc upto 4.5 ghz and after that the power consumption increases as well as the heat generated increase but gains get diminished.

cooler master hyper 212 evo can oc and i5 2500k upto 4.5 ghz stable. as you mentioned to have hot enviromnet so i choose noctua nh d-14.

my recommendation

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx...

i summrise the build

intel i5 2500k processor
noctua nh d-14 cpu cooler
asrock z77 extreme6 motherboard
corsair vengence 2x4gb 1600mhz ddr3 ram
2 x sapphire radeon hd 7950 oc edition graphic card
pc power and cooling silencer mkii 950w 80+ silver power supply
crucial m4 128gb sata3 ssd os and programs
wd carvier black 500gb 7200rpm hdd for games
seagate baracuda 3 tb 7200rpm hdd for storage of movies , music , etc
cooler master haf X full tower black
lg 12x blue ray dvd bruner

and

Dell UltraSharp U2711 Black 27" HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor

total = $2,927.88


$3k and 128gb ssd? and $900 for a single monitor?
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April 24, 2012 9:17:56 AM

with a $3k budget and gaming as the top priority, I expected to see a pair of 680's or 7970's, not a single 570 :D 

Also the Catleap is a good deal BUT unless you're prepared to mod your monitor, it's not the best for gaming. I'd either look elsewhere, or wait for this version of the Catleap

http://www.overclock.net/t/1232084/yamakasi-catleap-q27...
apparently yamakasi is working on a webshop where we can purchase them in the states.

You should read "jpinard's facts and explanation about this monitor" in that link. It'll help regardless of which monitor you decide to buy.
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April 24, 2012 4:10:33 PM

sburck said:
game less? 12+ hours is bad for your health... :fou: 


No it's not. The only thing that it'll do is damage your eye sight (which I value dearly) and I still game a lot, and my eye sight is fine. As long as you still get out side and get enough exercise.
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April 24, 2012 7:55:17 PM

hellfire24 said:
$3k and 128gb ssd? and $900 for a single monitor?


You wouldn't ask that question if you've used a IPS panel. The color accuracy and saturation makes TN panels look like garbage (TN whites look like yellow compared to IPS whites). IPS panels can truly be viewed from wide angles.

Learn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWXcNlh85Ps
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April 24, 2012 8:05:58 PM

jrwizbang said:
No it's not. The only thing that it'll do is damage your eye sight (which I value dearly) and I still game a lot, and my eye sight is fine. As long as you still get out side and get enough exercise.


I was thinking more about mental health...
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April 24, 2012 8:20:08 PM

sburck said:
I was thinking more about mental health...


True. Very true.
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April 24, 2012 9:00:56 PM

hellfire24 said:
some suggestion-no matter how big your tv is,it's no more than 1080p.for gaming,monitor >tv.a smaller (23-24")1080p monitor provides better image quality becasue it has higher pixel density.watercooling isn't really necessary.the cooling solution i suggested is very good.LGA2011 is more 'future' proof then SB or IB and i am sure you can fit a x79 system in your budget.
my $3k pc for you-
silverstone fortress ft02b case-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
samsung f4 2tb-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Asus 24" lem 1080p monitor-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
silverstone strider gold 850w psu-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
kingston hyperx 16gb 1600mhz 1.65v quad channel kit-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
asus sabertooth x79-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
i7 3820-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
cougar vortex 12cm fan x2-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
prolimatech megahalems rev.c -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
lite on black 12x blu ray-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
samsung 830 256gb ssd-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MSi twinfrozer iii gtx 680-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
total-$2537
you still have plenty of cash left to add another 680 in SLi.
highlights-
one of the best case!just google it.
put two of those cougar fans on the megahalems and BAM!you have a high end aircooler without making it insanely huge like D14 or phenteks.
for a single 1080p setup,you don't need 680 SLi but still if you want,get one more.the one i suggested has one of the best aftermarket cooler and a lot of overclocking potential.

Hum i think this is the one im looking for cept i might just drop the water cooling or add it later on & maybe change the case to something i want =D
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April 24, 2012 9:01:09 PM

Best answer selected by keivngzx.
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April 24, 2012 9:04:53 PM

hellfire24 said:
some suggestion-no matter how big your tv is,it's no more than 1080p.for gaming,monitor >tv.a smaller (23-24")1080p monitor provides better image quality becasue it has higher pixel density.watercooling isn't really necessary.the cooling solution i suggested is very good.LGA2011 is more 'future' proof then SB or IB and i am sure you can fit a x79 system in your budget.
my $3k pc for you-
silverstone fortress ft02b case-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
samsung f4 2tb-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Asus 24" lem 1080p monitor-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
silverstone strider gold 850w psu-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
kingston hyperx 16gb 1600mhz 1.65v quad channel kit-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
asus sabertooth x79-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
i7 3820-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
cougar vortex 12cm fan x2-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
prolimatech megahalems rev.c -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
lite on black 12x blu ray-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
samsung 830 256gb ssd-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MSi twinfrozer iii gtx 680-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
total-$2537
you still have plenty of cash left to add another 680 in SLi.
highlights-
one of the best case!just google it.
put two of those cougar fans on the megahalems and BAM!you have a high end aircooler without making it insanely huge like D14 or phenteks.
for a single 1080p setup,you don't need 680 SLi but still if you want,get one more.the one i suggested has one of the best aftermarket cooler and a lot of overclocking potential.


But its SOOOOOO DAMMMMMM HARRRRRRDDDDD to get a Gtx 680 of any brand ....
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April 25, 2012 5:40:01 AM

^just wait 2 weeks.nvidia has stopped the production of 580 and other 5xx cards and they are focusing on 6xx.i hope you get your hands on one soon.
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