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April 24, 2012 1:29:03 AM

Greetings friends. I'm new to the site but from what I've seen from looking around there seems to be great input and knowledge so I decided to test my fate for my upcoming gaming machine. I've gathered the template and here is what I'm looking for:

Approximate Purchase Date: First week of May 2012

Budget Range: At or around $1000 (rebates or not)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, video/music editing and storage, web browsing

Parts Not Required: monitor, keyboard, speakers, mouse

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: i only really know of newegg and tigerdirect

Country: (e.g.: India) US

Parts Preferences: Intel processor but I can be convinced to go AMD - that's about it for preference

Overclocking: N/A

SLI or Crossfire: not sure

Monitor Resolution: n/a

Additional Comments: the quieter the better; i've dealt w/ a noisy fan for 4 years.

Thanks guys, I look forward to seeing what you come up with. I appreciate the help!!

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April 24, 2012 2:02:25 AM

Nice!!! Quick response too, I appreciate it! I'm also looking into adding a solid state drive in addition to the HD; thoughts, suggestions, insight? Also maybe replacing the DVD burner w/ a solid/good priced Blu-Ray/DVD combo burner? Not too sure of anything else, but are there any alternatives to what you've provided around the same specs/price? I don't want to sound un-appreciative; I just want to see different options I could go with. Again, I appreciate the research and help!!!
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a c 277 4 Gaming
April 24, 2012 2:10:45 AM

mushrambio said:
Nice!!! Quick response too, I appreciate it! I'm also looking into adding a solid state drive in addition to the HD; thoughts, suggestions, insight? Also maybe replacing the DVD burner w/ a solid/good priced Blu-Ray/DVD combo burner? Not too sure of anything else, but are there any alternatives to what you've provided around the same specs/price? I don't want to sound un-appreciative; I just want to see different options I could go with. Again, I appreciate the research and help!!!


If you're going to up your budget to include an SSD and/or Blu Ray burner you should really put that money into the GPU first if gaming is your priority - the right GPU can often make or break a build's performance.

If gaming is second and you're using your computer for other tasks I can definitely see where an SSD or BD-R burner would come in handy but most cases make adding or removing drives easy anymore - you can always add those after you get the build up and running.
April 24, 2012 2:17:25 AM

Good point - so what alternative GPU's do you suggest for the additional money instead of adding a SSD?
April 24, 2012 3:22:04 AM

I'v always been a nividia fan boy so if you want to up the ante with GPU, I'd personally go to a 570ti geforce, heres a helpful site for comparing benchmarks.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/293?vs=306

I'm not exactly as computer savvy as some of these others guys are though, but its all personal preference I believe when it comes down to AMD or Nividia.
a c 277 4 Gaming
April 24, 2012 4:24:03 AM

mushrambio said:
Good point - so what alternative GPU's do you suggest for the additional money instead of adding a SSD?


Depends on how much you want to spend - I just bought a 7870 and it's quite amazing - around the $350 range. The 7950 can be had for about $50 - both are amazing.

I'm interested to see what the 660 and 670 bring to the table but that won't be for another month or two.
April 24, 2012 4:31:37 AM

I'd second the 7870. It's a fantastic card.
April 24, 2012 2:59:41 PM

g-unit1111 said:
Depends on how much you want to spend - I just bought a 7870 and it's quite amazing - around the $350 range. The 7950 can be had for about $50 - both are amazing.

I'm interested to see what the 660 and 670 bring to the table but that won't be for another month or two.


If it's worth it, I'll spend the extra money that's required for a solid card that will last me a few years. If you think the 7870 will do the trick for some time I'll go with that instead, or the nVidia counter-part (the 570?)
April 24, 2012 3:04:30 PM

Also, it may be a dumb question but will it work with the i5 cpu you suggested?
April 24, 2012 3:09:09 PM

mushrambio said:
If it's worth it, I'll spend the extra money that's required for a solid card that will last me a few years. If you think the 7870 will do the trick for some time I'll go with that instead, or the nVidia counter-part (the 570?)


Go with g-unit's build and add the 7870 instead of the 7850 and you will not regret it. I also just added a 7870 as well and it is a great card.
a b 4 Gaming
April 24, 2012 3:28:56 PM

BTW if you are near a microcenter or at least cane drive/bus ride go over there they have a great deal on i5 2500k if you can get there u can probably spend some extra cash on a 64gb ssd just to boot up fast if not a 128 gb crucial m4 or mushkin either will do the trick just a fan of crucial for their service(note: win7 takes about 60 gb of space but u can reduce it to 30) also since it said N/A on overclock u can also move down from i5 2500k to i5 2400(i5 2500 isn't that worth it since its about $20 cheaper than the unlocked version)

build if you are not near a microcenter:
Case/Ram: IN WIN Dragon Rider Black 1.0 with Kingston HyperX 8GB @ 1600 - $162.98 (note: this case is kind of big i hope you will have room)
Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo - $34.99
MOBO/CPU combo: BIOSTAR TZ77XE3 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 with i5 2500k - $319.98
PSU: SeaSonic X Series X650 Gold - $139.99 (I'm a fan of Seasonic but an alternative can be CORSAIR Professional Series HX650Lite On DVD Burner" target="_blank"> it is very cheap right now at 110 with rebate)
Optical: Lite On DVD Burner HDD: Samsung by Seagate Spinpoint F3 500gb - $79.99
SSD:Crucial M4 64gb - $84.99
Video Card: EVGA 012-P3-1570-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) - $299.99
$1140.90 w/o rebates a little over budget if it is to over budget you can get rid of the ssd and upgrade the hdd to a TB " target="_blank"> - $17.99
HDD: Samsung by Seagate Spinpoint F3 500gb - $79.99
SSD:Crucial M4 64gb - $84.99
Video Card: EVGA 012-P3-1570-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) - $299.99
$1140.90 w/o rebates a little over budget if it is to over budget you can get rid of the ssd and upgrade the hdd to a TB " target="_blank">Samsung by Seagate Spinpoint F3 500gb - $79.99
SSD:Crucial M4 64gb - $84.99
Video Card: EVGA 012-P3-1570-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) - $299.99
$1140.90 w/o rebates a little over budget if it is to over budget you can get rid of the ssd and upgrade the hdd to a TB " target="_blank"> - $17.99
HDD: Samsung by Seagate Spinpoint F3 500gb - $79.99
SSD:Crucial M4 64gb - $84.99
Video Card: EVGA 012-P3-1570-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) - $299.99
$1140.90 w/o rebates a little over budget if it is to over budget you can get rid of the ssd and upgrade the hdd to a TB
April 24, 2012 3:44:31 PM

which 7870 should i go with? i noticed g-unit you have the sapphire...
a c 277 4 Gaming
April 24, 2012 4:15:40 PM

mushrambio said:
Also, it may be a dumb question but will it work with the i5 cpu you suggested?


Yeah - GPUs aren't CPU specific - anyone who says otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about.

As long as your motherboard has one x PCI x16 lane you're good to go.

Quote:
which 7870 should i go with? i noticed g-unit you have the sapphire...


Sapphire makes solid cards - you can't go wrong with them. My work PC is using an older 5830 that I've had for 3 years and it still works fine for what I need it to do. XFX and Power Color are also good choices for Radeon cards.
April 24, 2012 4:33:31 PM

@boulbox - thanks for an alternative build! it's good to have options, and you bundled some thing also which were pretty neat.

though, i'm leaning towards g-unit's build mainly because of the parts brands and the reviews i've seen on them. but i do like the ssd you included (pretty fair price) and the PSU you showed was pretty nice also!
April 24, 2012 7:55:44 PM

g-unit1111 said:
Yeah - GPUs aren't CPU specific - anyone who says otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about.

As long as your motherboard has one x PCI x16 lane you're good to go.

Quote:
which 7870 should i go with? i noticed g-unit you have the sapphire...


Sapphire makes solid cards - you can't go wrong with them. My work PC is using an older 5830 that I've had for 3 years and it still works fine for what I need it to do. XFX and Power Color are also good choices for Radeon cards.



what do you think of the GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD5H as an alternative to the Asrock?
April 24, 2012 8:06:45 PM

for the extra $20, if you can swing it I would. It's a nicer board. I have one waiting for me when I get home from work. Will be doing some upgrading this weekend :) 
a c 277 4 Gaming
April 24, 2012 8:28:36 PM

mushrambio said:
what do you think of the GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD5H as an alternative to the Asrock?


I've been going back and forth between getting one of those two boards for my system - I've had good success with Gigabyte for my last two builds, either one is good.
April 24, 2012 8:31:48 PM

g-unit1111 said:
I've been going back and forth between getting one of those two boards for my system - I've had good success with Gigabyte for my last two builds, either one is good.


this might sound dumb but will the asrock work w/ ivy bridges (for future upgrade)?
April 24, 2012 8:37:14 PM

mushrambio said:
this might sound dumb but will the asrock work w/ ivy bridges (for future upgrade)?

any Z77 motherboard will work with the Ivy Bridge processors straight out of the box. The older Motherboards like the Z68, H67, H61 will need a bios update to work with them.
April 24, 2012 8:47:52 PM

is there a third possible mother board option around the same price that could potentially out-do these two or are on the same lines?
a b 4 Gaming
April 24, 2012 9:00:13 PM

More solid Radeon brands are MSI and GIGABYTE. The Twin Frozr III is stays very cool.
April 24, 2012 9:06:46 PM

azeem40 said:
More solid Radeon brands are MSI and GIGABYTE. The Twin Frozr III is stays very cool.



those are gpu's tho right?
a c 277 4 Gaming
April 24, 2012 9:42:20 PM

mushrambio said:
those are gpu's tho right?


I'm personally more of a fan of the smaller vendors like Sapphire and EVGA because they're wise to overclocking and will not only tweak their products accordingly but actually encourage it.
a b 4 Gaming
April 25, 2012 3:35:47 AM

mushrambio said:
@boulbox - thanks for an alternative build! it's good to have options, and you bundled some thing also which were pretty neat.

though, i'm leaning towards g-unit's build mainly because of the parts brands and the reviews i've seen on them. but i do like the ssd you included (pretty fair price) and the PSU you showed was pretty nice also!


if you are stuck on his build here is a $20 off for the same cpu and mobo combo

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
a b 4 Gaming
April 25, 2012 3:32:37 PM

mushrambio said:
is there a third possible mother board option around the same price that could potentially out-do these two or are on the same lines?


some mobos wont outdue others right now

what i suggest find is a z77 mobo that fits your needs like i wanted to buy asus sabertooth mobo but it didnt have some pci-e slots that i need it only had x16 slots and x1 slots

a good reference for mobos is ones with good support since you can always return it and it really depends on there bios updates to make things run smoother or faster

and like i said if you are not familiar with overclock pleas save yourself some money with a product that does not have "k" at the end you will feel no difference from a i5 2500k and a i5 2500 if you are not overclocking
a c 277 4 Gaming
April 25, 2012 5:01:14 PM

boulbox said:
some mobos wont outdue others right now

what i suggest find is a z77 mobo that fits your needs like i wanted to buy asus sabertooth mobo but it didnt have some pci-e slots that i need it only had x16 slots and x1 slots

a good reference for mobos is ones with good support since you can always return it and it really depends on there bios updates to make things run smoother or faster

and like i said if you are not familiar with overclock pleas save yourself some money with a product that does not have "k" at the end you will feel no difference from a i5 2500k and a i5 2500 if you are not overclocking


I'm not a fan of the design used on the Sabertooth Z77 - the plastic covers make adding or removing hardware difficult. I hated it on the P67, and the Z77 is no different.

You can buy a CPU that has an unlocked multiplier like the 2500K and research overclocking - then when you're ready for it it's there. UEFI makes it really easy to overclock anymore - it just takes a couple of clicks. Most hardcore overclockers aren't willing to recommend exact settings for your system because each one uses different settings and what's good for one system may fry the next. And no one wants to take responsibility for that. :lol: 
April 28, 2012 3:06:26 PM

Hey guys,
You've been a huge help and I'm on the verge of putting everything together. I had a quick question though; should I find a power source that has more watts than the one g-unit suggested in the original build? I ask this because the original build included a weaker gpu, and I'm going to go w/ the 7870 and I'm not sure if I'll need more power to house the 7870 gpu and the i2500k cpu. Again thanks for everything you guys have done!!!
a b 4 Gaming
April 28, 2012 8:12:24 PM

You will not need a higher wattage PSU than the one g-unit linked.
Here is why.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5691/the-retail-radeon-hd...

As you can see, the HIS IceQ uses around 316W at full load AT 1200MHz, and that is on a CPU that uses 130W of power AND is OCed to 4.3 GHz. Since the i5-2500k uses 95W of power and that the results will vary for other cards and other OCs, you are just fine with that PSU. You could go as low as 500W!
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