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Post IB release. First Time Gaming Build $1600-$1900. Time to order!

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April 24, 2012 9:16:50 AM

OK. It has felt like forever but my wait seems like it's finally over and I'm going to be placing the orders and building my Gaming PC in the next couple days. Many of you have helped put this list together and I think it's gonna be a pretty impressive system to start with and upgrade down the road and hopefully shred any games that come across it's path for the next few years on high to ultra.

I'll be using ncix, I live in northern Canada.

Budget: $1600-$1900CAD after shipping.

Parts Not Required: I'll be gaming on my TV and I have a monitor, but I may buy a new HD 3d monitor later down the road. I have a decent keyboard and mouse and I have a decent speaker system. I also have a 3TB of portable harddrives for all my movies, music, and shows. So I don't need much storage space.

Overclocking&SLI: I will eventually learn to safely overclock it and maybe order another video card for SLI and 3 monitor setups.

CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K Quad Core Unlocked Processor LGA1155 3.3GHZ Sandy Bridge 6MB $240

After most of the reviews I've read on the Ivy Bridge, even 1 day after its technical "release", I'm not sure I want to wait any longer. If the 2500k will suit my needs for the next few years I'll just get that and upgrade to Haswell or further down the road if it's not a huge issue. I'm really just becoming impatient with May 15th looming (D3) and Civ 5 sitting next to me, KoA, and others.
I could be swayed to go with the IB, but as of right now I'm just getting tired of the wait and the 2500k should be fine for a while.


Motherboard: I've narrowed it down to 3 out of the many Z77 boards. I think I like Asus from past experience with some of their stuff. Not motherboards surely. The Gigabyte Sniper is intriguing for it's price though. Asus Pro has wifi and the Sabertooth doesn't? Not sure.

ASUS P8Z77-V Pro LGA1155 Z77 DDR3 SLI 3PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 2PCI SATA3 DisplayPort USB3.0 Motherboard $235

ASUS Sabertooth Z77 ATX LGA1155 DDR3 SLI 3PCI-E16 4PCI-E1 SATA3 HDMI DisplayPort USB3.0 $250

Gigabyte Sniper 3 M3 mATX LGA1155 Z77 DDR3 3PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 HDMI SLI SATA3 USB3.0 $170


VIDEO CARD: Decisions, decisions. Waiting for a GTX680 is a pain but in 3 weeks or so hopefully I'll have one. I could be swayed towards something lesser if it was cheap and still capable of the games I want to play on high and ultra.

EVGA GeForce GTX 680 SC SIGNATURE+ 1084MHZ 2048MB 6208MHZ GDDR5 SLI DVI DP PCI-E DX11 Video Card $550 This one or the Superclocked+

MSI GeForce GTX 680 Twin Frozr III OC 1058MHZ 2GB GDDR5 2xDVI HDMI DP PCI-E DirectX 11 Video Card $580 twin fan OC

Something slightly cheaper and more available I could be swayed to like a 560 or a 7950. Not likely though. These cards are pretty awesome....and I've waited this friggin long so not to gimp myself on the graphics side is a plus.


Cooler: I need a little more info on if I need to get more fans to add to my case, maybe one of the easy low maintenence water cooling systems and advice on thermal paste instead of any adhesive that comes with the product. thermal paste vs some preapplied?

This seems to be the popular choice: Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo Direct Touch 4 Heatpipe Heatsink AM2 AM3 LGA1366/1155/1156/2011 120MM $35


Memory: I know very little about so I'll go with these: G.SKILL F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL Ripjaws 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 240PIN DIMM Memory $50


Power Supply: Is 650w enough if I want to run a dual gpu setup in the future? How's the brand?
Corsair Professional Series Gold AX650 650W ATX 12V 54A Fully Modular 80PLUS Gold Power Supply $150


SSD: Crucial M4 SSD Micron C400 128GB 2.5IN Solid State Disk Flash Drive SATA3 6Gbps $150

HDD: Now honestly....to save money and with the portable drives I already own I'm not going to get a internal HDD yet. Later, sure. But is it really necessary with a 128G SSD even with windows and games? I can always add a HDD later as they get cheaper. If so probably this cheap 500GB one:
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB 3.5IN 16MB Cache SATA3 Internal Hard Disk Drive HDD $90


Blu Ray Drive: ASUS BC-12B1ST Internal 12X Blu-Ray Reader & 16X DVD Writer Combo Drive OEM $65


OS: Windows 7 Home premium 64bit. $120


Case: I'm pretty sold on this case and I've heard good things. I hope its big enough for everything. It looks pretty cool to me. I'd like to do a Green theme or a Blue theme.

Zalman Z11 Plus Mid Tower ATX Case Black 4X5.25 1X3.5 5X3.5INT No PS Front USB3.0 & Audio $70


Now then that's pretty much it. Like I said I'd like to do a green or blue theme and might, could use a little knowledge there such as lighting and modding kits, and if I can fit/need extra fans along side my cooler.

Is the blu ray drive sufficient?
Any recommendations on the parts and the build?
Compatibility check?


Anyways I appreciate all the help along the way and, like I said, will be ordering everything within the week (hopefully) along with a laptop for my gf. Here's the link to the thread I have about a budget gaming laptop for her. Open to advice there as well. $600-$800Budget Gaming Laptop Thread

But I can't wait to start gaming and building MY rig!

aaannndd go!












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April 24, 2012 10:43:42 AM
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Processor: good.

MoBo: That Gigabyte sniper you chose is a micro ATX MoBo. It is meant for smaller form factor PC's (not that you can't use it but wouldn't you much rather have a full ATX MoBo). I would suggest either Gigabyte z77x-UD3H or Asrock z77 Extreme 4. If you want a blue theme, you should go with Gigabyte.

GPU: Either one of those are fine though I heard that for Nvidia, EVGA is the best. You can also choose a Sapphire Radeon 7970 if you are too tired of waiting for the 680. Very similar performance plus it is cheaper (prices have been slashed cause the 680 technically performs marginally better).

PSU: I think that one should be fine. Personally though, I would go with 750W just to make sure.

CPU Cooler: Yes, the most popular one is the CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Evo. It should also come with a good thermal paste.

The rest I would say are good to go. I'm building a pc using them too in the next few weeks. Hopefully I can negotiate a better price since I'm also buying a laptop for my gf :lol:  . You can also try these websites for parts.

Bestdirect.ca
DirectCanada.com

O... and for your gf, I would suggest the Ideapad Y570. It's a bit over budget (860 right now) but may be worth it. I'm getting the same laptop only without the gpu for my gf (z750).

Have fun with your build.
April 24, 2012 12:08:57 PM

Thanks for your input! I've already started looking at the Y570 ideapad. It indeed may be a great option. I think you're right about 750w. I hope I can get a decently priced gold one. And I guess we'll rule out the sniper mobo for the Asus or Asrock
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April 24, 2012 8:22:57 PM

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April 24, 2012 8:37:46 PM

Hey man, same boat.

I got the Asus z77-V Didnt go pro, as I dont need the extra usb3.0 stuff and i think thats all the pro offers over the v.

I got the AX750 also from Corsair. I thought it would cover me for SLi down the road but I think an 850 would have been better to be sure and it was only a little more. Doh!!!

Good luck with your build, thanks for wishing me well with mine.
April 24, 2012 11:04:58 PM

Ya an 850w could be the safe bet and it's not overly expensive. Good luck! Hopefully you and I are gaming on beastly rigs very soon!
April 24, 2012 11:40:33 PM

Now Intel's website says launch on 4/29 :pfff: 
April 25, 2012 1:22:48 AM

2500k it is! Screw it. Even though I'll probably have to wait a couple weeks for a GTX680 anyways...
April 25, 2012 11:58:25 AM

I guess the only remaining issues are:

The Z77 choice. Should I spring for the Asus Deluxe, Pro, Sabertooth, Gigabyte d5, or Asrock Extreme 4. The deluxe seems like it's a beauty. But expensive I know...I can fit it in the budget, but I'm dangerously close after shipping and I was thinking about fitting in a new monitor maybe or something else.

Everything I read about the Asus Deluxe is great and since I'm at $1800ish already after shipping I can justify it if it's the right choice. But I can see why the Asrock extreme4 or Gigabyte at $100 cheaper should be my choice.

I've decided to go with this PC Power & Cooling 950wPSU as well because I've heard good things, it provides me with no worries when/if I go SLI 680s and is pretty cheap at $120 :
PC Power & Cooling Silencer Mk II 950W SLI Certified ATX Power Supply 80 Plus Silver *7 Yr Warranty*

I figure I'll be as "futureproofed" as I can get with this stuff minus the Ivy Bridge. I figure the Asus Deluxe has a bunch of PCI-e slots (do I need regular PCI?) and will have a great upgrade path for SLI and it's a reliable brand.

Am I just going overkill? Should I just get one of the cheaper z77s like the Asrock or Gigabyte, go with the 750w psu, and cut some prices? I want a top of the line machine and I'll spend what I need to to build it but that being said overkill is overkill. It's just a gaming system. I feel like I may be putting money into the wrong place.
April 25, 2012 12:01:50 PM

I forgot to mention I still haven't really ruled out waiting til Sunday for IB if it still has a slight performance increase, will enable my z77 deluxe abilities (3.0, whatever else), and the IB temp problems aren't that bad.
April 27, 2012 6:58:29 PM

I'm going with the Extreme4 (has all the necessities), but I don't really advertise it... want it to still be available when I get my CPU :) 
April 27, 2012 8:10:44 PM

I'm leaning towards the ASUS pro
April 27, 2012 8:16:12 PM

I would personally go with the Extreme4 by ASRock. It's actually one that I was looking at to buy myself. It is a great board, especially for the price, but it is up to you. If you have the money, why not spend it ;) 
April 27, 2012 8:25:14 PM

If you're going through NCIX may I note that they have the i7 2700k on sale for $299.99 right now until May 2nd... Only $60 more than their sale price on the 2550k.

EDIT:

I picked up a Z77-V Pro from NCIX. Seems solid but i'm waiting for IB.
April 27, 2012 8:33:15 PM

The 2700k is absolutely pointless for gaming. Completely. It would be a waste of an extra $60+ that you could maybe use for a better gou, more ram, etc.
a b 4 Gaming
April 27, 2012 8:50:04 PM

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Corsair Carbide Series 400R Mid-Tower Case ATX 4X5.25 6X3.5INT USB 1394 No PS

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Corsair Carbide Series 500R Mid-Tower Gaming Case ATX 4X5.25 6X3.5INT USB 1394 No PS Black

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XFX 750W PRO750W Core Edition Single Rail ATX 12V 62A 24PIN ATX Power Supply 80PLUS Bronze PSU

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ASUS P8Z77-V LK LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS

or...

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Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Z77DDR3 3PCI-E16 3PCI-E1 HDMI CrossFireX/SLI SATA3 USB3.0 Motherboard

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Gigabyte Z77X-UD5H ATX LGA1155 Z77DDR3 3PCI-E16 3PCI-E1 HDMI CrossFireX/SLI SATA3 USB3.0 Motherboard

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ASUS P8Z77-V ATX LGA1155 Z77 DDR3 SLI 3PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 2PCI SATA3 DisplayPort USB3.0 Motherboard

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Intel Ivy Bridge 3570K 3.4Ghz

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11130AC0554&v... $31.05
Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo Direct Touch 4 Heatpipe Heatsink AM2 AM3 LGA1366/1155/1156/2011 120MM

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=15380BD5211&v... $48.09
G.SKILL Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 Memory

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=14120DR5445&v... $111.30
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM 64MB SATA 6Gbps 3.5IN Internal Hard Drive - OEM

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10530DR5213&v... $19.24
ASUS DRW-24B1ST 24X SATA DVD Writer OEM Black

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10530BD4593&v... $496.07
ASUS GeForce GTX 680 DirectCU II 1019MHZ 2GB 6008MHZ GDDR5 DVI HDMI DisplayPort PCI-E Video Card

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Mushkin Chronos 120GB 2.5IN SATA3 Sandforce SF-2281 SSD Solid State Disk Flash Drive

or....

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Kingston SVP200S3/120G 120GB SSDNow V+200 SATA 3 2.5 Solid State Drive
April 28, 2012 6:01:47 PM

I'm not a fan of those cases and could be waiting forever for an IB even if it's supposed retail release is Monday. I'm not waiting another month for a CPU that apparently runs hot and had a very small performance boost over SB. And all the Z77 boards are pretty much the same give or take a few things featured. The Sabertooth is going for $220 for an anniversary sale. Puts it right there with the Asrock for value.

Also I want an 850+ watt PSU and the PC power and cooling is cheap, 950w for future sli, and silver opposed to bronze, and a better brand than XFx. Not budging there or on the Evga 680.
April 28, 2012 7:39:56 PM

Gbay31 said:
Just realized I don't have my new PSU choice in the OP. Here it is:


PC Power & Cooling Silencer Mk II 950W SLI Certified ATX Power Supply 80 Plus Silver *7 Yr Warranty*


http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=67740&vpn=PPCMK2S950&...

Sorry for ugly links, at work posting from phone


Hey,

750W is already giving you enough to feel confident that you're machine is safe. 2-way SLI of the gtx 680 (along with your other PC parts) consume about 600W. So by getting a 750W, you have a 150W leeway already. That PC Power & Cooling Silencer MkII has a 750W version. I'm also getting that one. :D 
a b 4 Gaming
April 28, 2012 7:46:22 PM

Does that mean a CF 7850 setup uses less than 500W of power?!
April 28, 2012 7:57:46 PM

l0v3rboi said:
Hey,

750W is already giving you enough to feel confident that you're machine is safe. 2-way SLI of the gtx 680 (along with your other PC parts) consume about 600W. So by getting a 750W, you have a 150W leeway already. That PC Power & Cooling Silencer MkII has a 750W version. I'm also getting that one. :D 


You are somewhat correct, but just as an fyi, power supplies are rated at their MAX voltage. Meaning that 750w is the max power that a 750w power supply outputs. So really, you should generally as a rule of thumb have at least 50-100w over what is recommended. So in reality, 750w is pretty close for a 2xgtx 680 setup, but will come close enough.
April 28, 2012 8:11:18 PM

jrwizbang said:
You are somewhat correct, but just as an fyi, power supplies are rated at their MAX voltage. Meaning that 750w is the max power that a 750w power supply outputs. So really, you should generally as a rule of thumb have at least 50-100w over what is recommended. So in reality, 750w is pretty close for a 2xgtx 680 setup, but will come close enough.


Ah.. I learned something today. Lol. Then that means that gtx 680 consumes more power than my radeon 7950.
a b 4 Gaming
April 28, 2012 8:15:35 PM

That is true. NVIDIA did an excellent job with the GTX 680! :) 
April 28, 2012 8:49:11 PM

For that price the 950w seems like a no brainer. Even if it's overkill
a b 4 Gaming
April 28, 2012 8:53:58 PM

How is that so, Gbay31?
April 28, 2012 10:45:26 PM

I don't know really. Because it's the price of a 750w and provides me with no worries down the road? Haha it was actually in a thread I read where you said it was a steal I thought Azeem? LIS, if it's overkill than I'll get their 750w version.
a b 4 Gaming
April 28, 2012 10:46:17 PM

Yeah, it was a steal, but I think I should have gone with the XFX Core850W.
April 28, 2012 10:48:43 PM

The more I read about PCP&C the more I start to like them really. I hear they're a good brand. What's your reasoning?
a b 4 Gaming
April 28, 2012 10:51:30 PM

I don't think I will be able to go through with my CF/SLI plans. My parents are the ones who determine if I can spend $, and they will probably not let me CF/SLI, so now that I think about it, even 850W is overkill for me now. I had so many plans, like CF 7950 and eyefinity, but I can't now. I really wish I had gotten an XFX 650W or 550W...
April 28, 2012 10:54:32 PM

that sucks dude I'm sure I'll feel like that for awhile. No way can I afford a second 680 anytime soon. And a triple monitor setup on a single 680? Probably won't have that for awhile either. But eventually.....
a b 4 Gaming
April 28, 2012 10:55:49 PM

I only have BFBC2 lol and they said if they knew I was getting it they wouldn't have let me. Oh well, that's life.
April 28, 2012 11:02:53 PM

so it is....so it is...
April 30, 2012 7:46:53 PM

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