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April 26, 2012 6:44:01 AM

I'm having a tough time looking for cheap parts on newegg and amazon. Especially figuring out whats compatible
with what. I'm definitely looking for a gaming pc that runs recent games well.

Here's what I don't need:

>mouse & keyboard
>monitor
>speakers

An hdmi port is definitely needed.

EDIT: No need for a win7 software. I have my own.

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a c 136 B Homebuilt system
April 26, 2012 6:56:49 AM

and your monitor resolution?
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April 26, 2012 7:54:43 AM

1920x1080
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a c 136 B Homebuilt system
April 26, 2012 8:01:34 AM

AMD FX 4100 $110
Motherboard with a 970 series chipset $90
2 x2 gig of RAM $30
500 gig hard drive $80
CM 430 case $40
DVD drive $20
Radeon 6870 $145
OCZ ZS Series 550W 80PLUS Bronze High Performance Power Supply $45


$560

A really good gamer at 1080p
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a b B Homebuilt system
April 26, 2012 8:33:20 AM

sticking strictly under budget,

case
$40
LIAN LI Lancool PC-K58
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

psu
$45 ($35 after mail in)
CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 V2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

cpu
$70
Intel Pentium G620 Sandy Bridge 2.6GHz LGA 1155
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

motherboard
$85
ASRock Z68M/USB3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ram
$28
Crucial Ballistix sport 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

hdd
$75
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD3200AAKX 320GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

optical
$17
LITE-ON DVD Burner - Bulk 24X
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

video
$140 ($130 after mail in)
HIS H685FN1GD Radeon HD 6850 1GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$500 before mail in, $480 after. $18.10 shipping.
Grand total of $498.10 after all is said and done.
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a b B Homebuilt system
April 26, 2012 3:34:22 PM

I'm borrowing some of quilciri's build as he has some good suggestions, but I am going to make a couple changes.

CASE = LIAN LI Lancool PC-K58 - 39.99
PSU = CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 - 44.99 (10.00 MIR)
CPU = Intel Pentium G850 - 87.99
MOBO = GIGABYTE GA-H61MA-D3V - 59.99
RAM = Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) - 22.99
GPU = GIGABYTE Ultra Durable VGA Series HD 6850 - 149.99 (20.00 MIR)
HDD = Western Digital Caviar Blue 320GB - 74.99
OPTICAL = LITE-ON DVD Burner - 16.99

TOTAL = $497.92 + 2.89 shipping = $500.81 (30.00 MIR not included)

TOTAL after MIR = $470.81

This will give you a stronger processor, an upgradable Motherboard to ivy bridge and PCIe 3.0 (with IB CPU and bios update) and since you are using a G850 there is no need or use for a Z68 mobo with your setup and budget, and a stronger graphics card, all for $.81 over the $500 budget, and comes in well under budget with the MIR's.

That is an amazing deal on that case though :) 
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a b B Homebuilt system
April 26, 2012 4:34:44 PM

Z68 supports Ivy bridge without a BIOS update. He may want support for ddr3 1600 over pci-e 3.0, since cards barely use half the lanes in 2.0 right now. I also like the cheap and easy storage upgrade in using a small ssd as a cache on z68 boards.

gigabytes' pretty cheap for a decent mobo, though.
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a b B Homebuilt system
April 26, 2012 5:02:58 PM

Wrong. Z68 Motherboards will require a BIOS update. The Z77 motherboards do not require one.

The difference between the ram will not be very noticable for gaming but if the OP wants too, he can use 1600 ram.

Using the cheap and easy storage is fine and all, but it does not allow for it in the budget, hence why the Z68 features are overkill for his needs.
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a b B Homebuilt system
April 26, 2012 5:56:29 PM

Pezcore27 said:
Wrong. Z68 Motherboards will require a BIOS update. The Z77 motherboards do not require one.

The difference between the ram will not be very noticable for gaming but if the OP wants too, he can use 1600 ram.

Using the cheap and easy storage is fine and all, but it does not allow for it in the budget, hence why the Z68 features are overkill for his needs.


Fair enough, but your previous post implied that Z68 didn't support IB, which is wrong as well.

As far as RAM vs. pci-e 3.0, I'll take minor benefit over no benefit. If you were giving him a board with multiple Pci-e 3.0 slots, i'd be with you. Later, if he upgrades to a K series, the 1600 will have more overclocking headroom, too.

I didn't put an ssd in my build, but that cache support gives him more upgrade options, and frankly an easier one than imaging his windows install onto a larger ssd or making a clean install of windows on one and re-partitioning his hdd.
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a b B Homebuilt system
April 26, 2012 6:02:23 PM

I never said Z68 boards didn't or wouldn't support IB, I just said that the board I selected did with a bios upgrade, hence why I chose it as a good budget board.

Again the RAM thing is totally up to the OP. For running any processor below the i3-2100, the memory controller is locked at 1333mhz, so 1600 RAM is pointless as it's speeds will never be seen.
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a c 136 B Homebuilt system
April 26, 2012 6:56:59 PM

The FX 4100 matched the intel i3 2100 in gaming tests on this website . On a couple of older games the FX was a little behind , presumably because he games could not use 4 threads.
The FX spanks the i3 in general use and in application performance

Once you consider the overclocking potential of the FX then its going to destroy any of the intel dual cores .
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a b B Homebuilt system
April 26, 2012 8:59:47 PM

Outlander_04 said:
The FX 4100 matched the intel i3 2100 in gaming tests on this website . On a couple of older games the FX was a little behind , presumably because he games could not use 4 threads.
The FX spanks the i3 in general use and in application performance

Once you consider the overclocking potential of the FX then its going to destroy any of the intel dual cores .


Not true, unfortunately.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-a...

Once you overclock the 4100, it does slightly outperform the 2100, but *only* when you OC it.
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a b B Homebuilt system
April 26, 2012 9:00:35 PM

Pezcore27 said:
I never said Z68 boards didn't or wouldn't support IB, I just said that the board I selected did with a bios upgrade, hence why I chose it as a good budget board.

Again the RAM thing is totally up to the OP. For running any processor below the i3-2100, the memory controller is locked at 1333mhz, so 1600 RAM is pointless as it's speeds will never be seen.


..until he drops in a IB CPU later.
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a b B Homebuilt system
April 26, 2012 9:08:39 PM

quilciri said:
..until he drops in a IB CPU later.

...if he does. Haswell will be out in a year.
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a b B Homebuilt system
April 26, 2012 9:40:43 PM

Pezcore27 said:
I'm borrowing some of quilciri's build as he has some good suggestions, but I am going to make a couple changes.

CASE = LIAN LI Lancool PC-K58 - 39.99
PSU = CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 - 44.99 (10.00 MIR)
CPU = Intel Pentium G850 - 87.99
MOBO = GIGABYTE GA-H61MA-D3V - 59.99
RAM = Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) - 22.99
GPU = GIGABYTE Ultra Durable VGA Series HD 6850 - 149.99 (20.00 MIR)
HDD = Western Digital Caviar Blue 320GB - 74.99
OPTICAL = LITE-ON DVD Burner - 16.99

TOTAL = $497.92 + 2.89 shipping = $500.81 (30.00 MIR not included)

TOTAL after MIR = $470.81



i like this build

however i would get a cheaper case for 19$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and spend the extra 5$ on a hd 6870
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

you will still be under your budget.

also considering an upgrade path is probably unnecessary. he/she is on a $500 budget and probably wont be upgrading to ivy anything anytime soon. You want the best performance now.

edit: also dont rely on mail in rebates. half the times its a joke. im still "waiting" on a couple from half a year ago
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April 26, 2012 10:38:43 PM

Wow! Thanks a lot you guys! I'm taking all of your suggestions by heart and this will definitely help me figure out what I need.

Also I am planning on upgrading the pc as I go along (very rarely, if the time comes).I don't plan to do any overclocking because I'm afraid that'll create problems. I'm very new to this scene so maybe it's not for me.
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April 26, 2012 11:37:37 PM

What games do you plan to play? if you play BF3 a solid quad core would be a good idea for 64 player frag fests.
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a c 136 B Homebuilt system
April 27, 2012 12:38:24 AM

quilciri said:
Not true, unfortunately.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-a...

Once you overclock the 4100, it does slightly outperform the 2100, but *only* when you OC it.



Yes and if anyone was going to build a computer with a $500 budget and then spend $500 on the graphics card alone thats an excellent link . Unfortunately for everyone else it proves nothing at all .

There is a head to head comparison of the FX 4100 and i3 2100 on this website and the results are so close there is no clear winner
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-4100-core-i3-210...

SO the FX wins BECAUSE it can be overclocked
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April 27, 2012 2:29:54 AM

Best answer selected by darky_65.
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