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3d with amd and iz3d, Anyone want to trade my 6970 for a gtx 570

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February 18, 2012 9:21:01 AM

Hi everyone, are there any active shutter glasses that work with this setup?
If not I am selling my card today and going nvidia as 3d is a big thing for me
Thanks for the help
February 18, 2012 9:22:25 AM

forgot to list specs
1100t @ 4ghz
sapphire 6970
gigabyte 990fxa-ud7
8gb ddr3 1333mhz
lgw2363d monitor (3d vision ready)
xfx core edition 750
I really hope there is an easy solution to this as I do not want to sell my 6970
February 18, 2012 9:22:45 AM

please also note, the monitor is active not passive
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February 18, 2012 2:31:30 PM

I have found glasses called universal glasses but these appear to be for multiple display manufacturers and nowhere can I find universal glasses that work with ati :( 
February 18, 2012 4:46:54 PM

Before anyone mentions the obvious I have contacted iz3d but they have not returned any of my emails and my monitor is not supported by tridef
a b À AMD
February 18, 2012 6:24:29 PM

You need to get glasses from the manufacturer of the monitor. Most TV's are different.

If that TV is 3D vision ready, you can use the 3D vision glasses, even on an AMD system. However, to have it work with HD3D (Amd's version), you must have an HDMI 1.4a or Displayport connection. No other connections work for HD3D.

EDIT: after searching around, I found that the Monitor does not offer HDMI 1.4a. You cannot use this with AMD graphics cards for HD3D gaming.
February 18, 2012 6:37:36 PM

So I would have to get nvidia then? I thought this did have 1.4a support. I was completely unaware that nvidia 3d vision worked with ati. Is this tried and tested? because if thats the case I may consider changing monitors instead of graphics cards
a b À AMD
February 18, 2012 6:44:20 PM

I have a monitor that offers both HDMI 1.4a and dual link DVI and Nvidia 3D vision ready (in sig). It works with both and I have tested it.

AMD requires displayport or HDMI 1.4a (most HDMI monitors use older HDMI types), and Nvidia requires dual link DVI or HDMI 1.3 (limited).

If you are serious about 3D, you'll want a monitor that has displayport if you want to use AMD, because HDMI 1.4a limits you to either 30hz or 720p at 60hz (per eye). For Nvidia, you want dual link DVI for 60hz per eye, HDMI connections limit you to 30hz or 60hz at 720p.
February 18, 2012 6:54:11 PM

Thank you so much for the help mate. Nvidia it is then :D  how do I select best answer?
a b À AMD
February 18, 2012 8:36:27 PM

There should be a button at the end of each reply to select best answer, but that requires you to open the thread with the right parameters. It's not a big deal either way.
February 18, 2012 9:16:05 PM

Thanks again mate, you have no idea how long it has taken me to get an answer to this!
February 20, 2012 10:31:33 AM

One thing I forgot to ask, could I use display port to dual link dvi? would this work?
February 24, 2012 2:21:18 PM

I cant view the private messages im sending you bystander :( 
a b À AMD
February 24, 2012 2:30:31 PM

Quote:
Hey again mate, thanks for all your help the other day.
Was wondering if it is possible to use a hdmi 1.4a cable with
a hdmi to dvi-d converter?
if not what about a displayport to dvi-d?
also how did you manage to get the shutter glasses working
with amd? just in case I decide to switch monitors as when I
install the glasses it comes up with an error message saying
that a nvidia graphics adapter can not be detected.
Thanks for the help mate


The HDMI converters, on AMD systems, won't work, as the signal for HDMI 1.4a uses frame packing, which is something dvi-d cannot do. DP to DVI-D has the same issue, DVI-D cannot use frame packing, so info is lost in the conversion.

As far as the glasses go, they will just work. AMD's system does not require special glasses. What ever glasses your monitor uses will work as is.
February 24, 2012 2:34:46 PM

ah cool, I have some universal ones so fingers crossed I can just use them. I noticed on the amd website it says that amd can do 3d with dvi-d now, will this work for me? as I said I really really dont wanna sell my 6970
a b À AMD
February 24, 2012 2:38:09 PM

dacca said:
ah cool, I have some universal ones so fingers crossed I can just use them. I noticed on the amd website it says that amd can do 3d with dvi-d now, will this work for me? as I said I really really dont wanna sell my 6970


I don't know, that must be new. I think I'll have to do some experimenting myself, if it is. I have an AMD alternative setup that I'd like to see work with my monitor at 1080p.
a b À AMD
February 24, 2012 2:44:05 PM

Do you mind posting a link to the DVI-D option on AMD's site? I want to check into it.
February 24, 2012 2:44:21 PM

if you get it working then please let me know how as I cant afford a gtx 580 yet and wouldnt want to get a 570 as from the benchmarks i have seen they perform worse on games I play.
February 24, 2012 2:49:03 PM

http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/amd-hd3d/Pa...
at the bottom there, shows dvi-d hdmi and dp unless thats just them saying that you these can supply a picture to a monitor, but as it is on the 3d detection tool setup guide one would assume that they now support it over dvi-d
a b À AMD
February 24, 2012 2:51:17 PM

I wonder if that's a typo. I think I'll try it out now.
February 24, 2012 3:19:07 PM

The suspense is literally killing me!
a b À AMD
February 24, 2012 3:24:32 PM

It won't work. I believe that page had a mistake. Everywhere else says HDMI 1.4a or DP is required. When I attempt to run it, it tells my my monitor is not supported. You'll also note that the monitors shown to be supported all have HDMI 1.4a or DP connections.

I also couldn't find any info through google searches either. If you could find something more than that one page, I'd be interested.
February 24, 2012 4:13:07 PM

hmm.... the only other option I am thinking is going with a passive monitor.
Any experience with them? I heard active is way better
a b À AMD
February 24, 2012 4:22:52 PM

You are better off just getting the 570. You might not be able to max out the games you want to play, but 3D vision at lowered settings looks a lot better than non 3D vision at full settings if 3D vision is supported well. So many of the settings you see in normal gaming are there to produce a more realistic 3D effect, but when you see it in 3D, those effects aren't needed.
February 24, 2012 4:25:56 PM

Hi there, I am currently selling my 6970 on ebay
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290675477211?ssPageName=STRK:...
Just wondering if anyone would like to trade it for a 570 or a 580 and I will pay some cash toward it as I know the 580's are worth more.
I know alot of people would see this as pointless, but anyone who wants to move to a eyefinity setup I guess this would be a great
way to start.
My reason for wanting to change is that I really really want to go 3d and I cant get it working with my setup and AMD.
Thanks everyone
February 24, 2012 4:27:33 PM

I see, I have my 6970 for sale on ebay now, just need someone to buy it.
Then im either getting the 570 twin frozr iii or the 570 phantom.
I am quite tempted by getting 2x560ti in sli but would rather have a single card
setup.
Thanks for all your help mate
a b À AMD
February 24, 2012 4:28:10 PM

This next topics has been merged by Mousemonkey
  • Anyone want to trade my 6970 for a gtx 570 or higher?
    February 24, 2012 4:29:58 PM

    Mousemonkey could you make it so the topic title is still about the trade please? as people will not know that I have offered a trade
    a b À AMD
    February 24, 2012 4:32:25 PM

    The title of this topic has been edited by Mousemonkey
    February 24, 2012 4:35:05 PM

    Thank you mouse monkey :D 
    a b À AMD
    February 24, 2012 4:41:38 PM

    NP.
    February 24, 2012 7:54:27 PM

    Would also consider a trade for 560ti in sli and will pay the difference in price providing its reasonable
    !