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April 27, 2012 2:01:10 AM

Hi, I'm from Brazil and I want to buy PC components as my mother is going to travel to USA and things are a lot cheaper there than in Brazil.
I'll try to build it myself here, if things get hard, I'll pay to someone to build it.
I see a lot of people saying that 2k-3k is more than enough to build a gaming PC. All I want is a gaming pc that will play games like BF3, Skyrim, Diablo 3 with everything maximized, or almost everything. And a PC that can last for 2-3 more years.
The less I spend, the better.


Approximate Purchase Date:
05/06/2012 - 05/18/2012

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Budget Range:
Up to 4.000,00 U$

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System Usage from Most to Least Important:
Gaming, watching movies and web surfing.

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Parts Not Required:
Monitor, Speakers, Case and OS

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Country:
Brazil, but I'm going to buy the components in USA.

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Preferred Website(s) for Parts:
I'd prefer retail stores, if there are any near my mothers hotels Planet Hollywood Resort & Casino Las Vegas (didn't find the address) and Millenium Biltmore Hotel LA (http://www.millenniumhotels.com/millenniumlosangeles/in...).
The two stores I know from USA are newegg and bestbuy

Does Newegg have a retail store? I sent an email asking if I can buy from Brazil and ask my mother to pick up the stuffs at their pick up store (I checked google maps, it says it takes 30-40 mins to get there from my mother's hotel, is that right?)
Bestbuy is also an option, but I don't know if everything they have listed on their site is really available at any of their retail stores.

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Parts Preferences:
CPU = Intel
Motherboard = ASUS*

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Overclocking:
Maybe, never did it. I'll try it if I see it's nothing hard.

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SLI or Crossfire:
Maybe. Do I need SLI or XF to attend the conditions I mentioned above?

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Monitor Resolution:
1920x1080

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Additional Comments:
Will I need a sealed WC or air cooling should do fine?
Need to know, so I can choose my case.
I want a quiet PC, I guess with a sealed WC I won't have anything to worry regarding maintenance.
Something like a Corsair H100 should do fine?

I guess the 3 good options I have here in Brazil are:
-Thermaltake Level 10
-Thermaltake Level 10 GT
-Corsair 800D
I guess these three can fit everything.
If there are other options, can you tell me? I'll see If I can find it in Brazil.


Thanks in advance, and sorry if I wrote something wrong.

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April 27, 2012 2:57:19 AM

Do not forget to add the 50% tax in parts that you buy there.
Easily you could bring an i5-2500k + GTX 680 (if found available, if not, go with 7970)
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April 27, 2012 6:11:56 AM

If you have 4k you should do multiple GPU's. Why not. And you know you can't have an AMD mobo with an intel processor right?
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April 27, 2012 11:00:14 AM

I don't really need to worry about the taxes. Things would be different if the stuffs were sent via post mail.
I only found the GTX 680 on Best Buy's site, but I don't know if it will be available at the stores.

There is no problem using differents brands, and I don't thinkg I need multiplu GPU's for gaming.
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April 27, 2012 11:57:16 AM

$1500-$2000 max is all you need if you're not going for eyefinity and all that.
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April 27, 2012 12:07:47 PM

no need to spend $4k.a $1500-$1800 build will fulfill your every need from movies to gaming at ultra settings at 1080p.closed loop coolers are not worth the cost.800d and level 10th are too expensive cases and i don't think they have any big advantage to justify the cost.any way i would suggest some thing like this-
500r white-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
f4 2tb-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
xfx 850w xxx silver psu-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ballistix sports 8gb 1600mhz 1.5v ram-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
gigabyte ud5h z77-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
2500k-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
612 PWM cpu cooler-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
lg 12x bluray with 3d play back-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
chronos deluxe 240gb ssd-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
msi twinfrozer iii gtx 680-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


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April 27, 2012 1:28:06 PM

Thanks for the suggestion.
Is Gigabyte a good mobo brand?

This chart is very good.
If I SLI GTX 680 or XF 7980, how many FPS can I achieve in 1920x1080?

Also I was thinking in buying a OCZ Revodrive X2 SSD, but I don't understand about the PCIe connections.
If I SLI or XF, what mobo should I get to be able to use the OCZ Revodrive X2 SSD?

Why you say sealed WC doesn't worth? Well I don't know, but I don't think 100U$ is expensive, maybe I could use the H100.

About the cases, I think these are the best options I can find here.
I'll try to see if I can find this Corsair 500R here.
What are the good cases brands?
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April 27, 2012 1:50:39 PM

Gigabyte is a great brand. They've been around forever and are very trusted. I can't speak to how good the warranty service out of Brazil might be though...

A single GTX 680 will easily get you 60-100 fps in any game out there on ultra at 1080p. That card is an absolute monster, it's basically the equivalent of having two GTX 560 Ti's in SLI minus the heat and noise problems.

Be careful with Revodrives. They're great for performance once started up, but they delay system startups substantially as the card goes through self check at each power up. A good quality SSD will hugely speed up system boots while still providing great load times once you're up and running.

H100 is a great cooler. Do beware though that there are a lot of complaints with problems out of the box. Corsair has impecable customer service in my experience but replacement service to/from Brazil may be slow.

Corsair, Antec, Lian Li, Coolermaster, and Silverstone all make great cases. Once you get into the $100 range on casses the amount of features and quality go up dramatically compared to some of the stuff priced under $100. I own both Corsair 500R and 600T cases and they're both great. I like the styling of the 600T better, but the 500R has better cooling and features (LED's can be turned off, fan controller is better, more fans).

Finally, as stated previously $4,000 USD is overkill. You can build a killer system for half that, or a really decent system for a quarter of that amount.
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April 27, 2012 2:08:02 PM

Will a Corsair Force GT be a good choice? They seem to have the best read/write speed.

I think GTX 680 are out of stock almost everywhere.

I guess Corsair should have a good service here in Brazil too.

I heard about Lian Li, but this one I know I can't find here. I've seen some Coolermaster.

I was just thinking to spend a little more because here, everything is too expensive and I don't know when I'll have another opportunity to get these components for a cheap price. So I want this computer to last 2-3 years more running games on ultra.
Just to have an idea. Prices here in Brazil are 1.8x in sites like eBay and + 2.0x in good stores.
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April 27, 2012 2:46:34 PM

i wish people would stop mentioning the gtx 680 like its actually a choice for a builder atm. it was a paper launch people... it may as well not been released
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April 27, 2012 3:24:25 PM

OK, a few things.
1)Intel and AMD are completely different platforms and cannot work together for CPUs and Motherboards. AMD graphics cards will work fine on an Intel system as they are platform agnostic.

2) ASUS and Gigabyte are the 2 top brands right now for motherboards, and ASRock and MSI are good budget boards (though with your price range there is no need for a budget board). Something in the $150-200 range should suit your needs, and make sure it has a z68 or z77 chipset on it with a 16x and 8x, or 8x and 8x PCIe configuration (for duel cards it does not matter if it is PCIe2 or 3)

3) For SLi and xFire you can expect somewhere between a 50-80% increase in FPS at 1080p on any given game with any given settings. However, anything over 60fps is just wasted horsepower unless you have a monitor that happens to be 120Hz/fps capable (but that is still pretty rare today). Most likely a single GTX680 or 7970 will last you quite well for a very long time, and in a year or two when you feel the need to upgrade you should have no problem picking up a 2nd card for 1/2 the price, or replacing the card with the next best thing. Keep checking online stores for availability. The GTX670 will be released soon, which will push demand for the 680 down a little bit, and production is still ramping up, so in a few weeks you should have no problem picking up one of these cards.

4) EVGA for nVidia cards, and Sapphire for AMD cards is generally the way to go, but any high end card maker is going to be pretty good.

5) Quad core is all you need, and hyper threading is simply not supported by video games, so an i5 2500 or 2550 is about as good as you can get for gaming unless you are using more than 2 GPUs. This may change in 2 years when the next gen consoles come out, but quad cores will still be more than enough horsepower for most games at extremely high settings (or at least higher than console settings). Plus in 2 years we should have Haswell CPUs out which should have 6-8 cores in them anyways. The only exception to this is if you are willing to wait for the Ivy Bridge i5 CPUs to come out in a month or so, which will have the advantage of PCIe3 support, but really this is not required.

6) For ram look for 1.5V DDR3 1600 or 2133 ram, and stay away from sticks that have really tall heat sinks (like the Corsair Dominator series). They work fine, but can interfere with some oversized coolers. Timings really do not matter unless you are doing extreme OCing with your memory which is not suggested unless you really know what you are doing. Personally I like Corsair and g.Skill, but there are plenty of other decent brands out there for memory.

7) LianLi use to be one of the best case manufacturers back in the '90s, but over the last 10 years they have really not kept up, and simply tend to be expensive with no added benefit. They still make some neat and slick looking cases, but there are several other better manufacturers out there now. Personally I like Corsair and Fractal Design for looks and features because they make cases that look very sleek and professional while offering tons of features even in their budget models. Thermaltake and Cooler Master also make some decent cases, but they often delve into designs that look like something that a teenager with too much money to burn would like... which really does not suit my tastes; but to each his own.

8) Newegg does not have a retail store. For PC parts try Bestbuy (which tends to be expensive and lacking in selection), Fry's electronics (which has excellent prices, but tends to have lower quality products, but has an excellent return policy... which you cannot take advantage of in Brazil), or Microcenter (which actually beats online stores on some prices like CPUs, Mod parts, SSDs/HDDs, Ram, but has terrible prices on other things like motherboards, software, and accessories).

9) While watercooling is fun it often has very little effect on cooling performance unless doing major overclocking and is simply not a requirement for extreme builds like it use to be. I have an i7 2600, and even at 4.2GHz I am only running ~40*c when under full load with a $30 CPU cooler. Granted you may need a little extra cooling power in Brazil where things are quite a bit hotter than where I live, but you should still be able to have sufficient cooling with a $30-60 air cooler even when pushing a system up to 4.5GHz or beyond.
If you do choose to do a water cooler then be careful about shipping if you assemble the computer before moving it down to Brazil! The last thing you want is to get water, or whatever other cooling fluids are used in LCLs all over your parts, and you have no idea how rough transport companies are going to be to your equipment.

10) With your budget consider getting a bigger/higher resolution screen. 1080p is just a starting point these days. I like my 1200p screen, and would love to have 1600p if I could afford it. According to Intel we should expect screen resolutions to skyrocket in the coming years :) 

Well, that is about it. Hellfire has an excellent set of parts, and if you deviate from them just be sure to take my suggestions when looking for alternatives. $2000 should be an overkill computer that will play at the highest settings for a good long time, and provide a platform that will have reusable parts for several rebuilds.
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April 27, 2012 3:54:16 PM

neon neophyte said:
i wish people would stop mentioning the gtx 680 like its actually a choice for a builder atm. it was a paper launch people... it may as well not been released


well it is the best choice for how much he is spending so why not mention it.

7970 are great to but don't perform as well as a 680.

If you want your system now XFX Double D FX-797A-TDBC Radeon HD 7970 Black Edition 3GB

its a great GPU you can go to the cheaper one slightly cheaper ones as performance wouldn't be that much of a difference but the cooler on this one is excellent.

NOTE: you won't see a difference in 1-5 frames per second.
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April 27, 2012 4:00:33 PM

because it was a paper launch...
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April 27, 2012 4:05:17 PM

Thanks for the information. It did help me.

My mistake. It should be Asus motherboard, not AMD.

When I get home I'll check Gigabyte mobos and also these stores you mentioned.

I'll use air cooling. Any brands suggestion or can I stick to the ones that comes with the case? I heard a lot about Noctua.

Yes, I was trying to find 120hz monitors, but I just can't. Didn't find any 1200/1600p monitors here. Guess they didn't arrive here yet.

For now:
Processor - i5 2500K
Graphic Card - GTX680 if available, if not then 7970
Keyboard - Logitech G19
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April 27, 2012 4:16:51 PM

emzk said:
Thanks for the information. It did help me.

My mistake. It should be Asus motherboard, not AMD.

When I get home I'll check Gigabyte mobos and also these stores you mentioned.

I'll use air cooling. Any brands suggestion or can I stick to the ones that comes with the case? I heard a lot about Noctua.

Yes, I was trying to find 120hz monitors, but I just can't. Didn't find any 1200/1600p monitors here. Guess they didn't arrive here yet.

For now:
Processor - i5 2500K
Graphic Card - GTX680 if available, if not then 7970
Keyboard - Logitech G19


Noctua NH-D14 120mm & 140mm

these are great but look a bit ugly on a lot of computers as it doesn't fit in the color scheme

other than that zalmans and coolermaster are great
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April 27, 2012 4:32:55 PM

Just watch out for the parts when being brought over. You may get a customs fee and it's quite likely a part may come damaged since your bringing it over from another country. Also account for the time it will take to RMA a product in case the above happens.

Other than that you should have no problem building a gaming pc with $4k. These guys give good opinions on what you should choose for your configuration.

-Note- create 3 diffrent configs: budget, mid-range, and high-end to compare the prices and see whether you can make changes to configure a better system while at the same time save $$$.
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April 27, 2012 4:50:33 PM

About the custom fees, I don't think it's going to be a problem as my mother will bring the components in her luggage.
I will ask her to wrap the boxes with a lot of clothes to prevent possible damages.

Well Intel, Asus, EVGA and Sapphire they all have RMA in Brazil. Maybe they can complain about the product being bought in USA and not in Brazil, but in the worst case I guess I can pay them.
Noctua doesn't have RMA here and Corsair does. But I guess I won't have any problems with Noctua fans, only hear good things about them, right?
Or maybe I should get a Corsair fan to get RMA.

Yes, I'll dig a little more and post here so you guys can give me more opinions.
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April 27, 2012 5:05:13 PM

emzk said:
About the custom fees, I don't think it's going to be a problem as my mother will bring the components in her luggage.
I will ask her to wrap the boxes with a lot of clothes to prevent possible damages.

Well Intel, Asus, EVGA and Sapphire they all have RMA in Brazil. Maybe they can complain about the product being bought in USA and not in Brazil, but in the worst case I guess I can pay them.
Noctua doesn't have RMA here and Corsair does. But I guess I won't have any problems with Noctua fans, only hear good things about them, right?
Or maybe I should get a Corsair fan to get RMA.

Yes, I'll dig a little more and post here so you guys can give me more opinions.


Noctua fans are great and have heard they cool your system really good, however I wish they could at least have a different color scheme. Btw how big is the luggage your mom is using cause all that stuff is pretty big and heavy too lol.
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April 27, 2012 5:15:52 PM

She can bring 2 luggages with 32 kilos each. She's going with a friend and her friend won't bring anything, so I could have an extra space.
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April 27, 2012 5:43:06 PM

emzk said:
She can bring 2 luggages with 32 kilos each. She's going with a friend and her friend won't bring anything, so I could have an extra space.


Ah my bad. Read that you didn't need the case so all is well XD
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April 28, 2012 4:51:41 PM

Yes, she won't bring the case.

As I don't know what will be the availability of the components, I'll be making a list with more than 1 option.
From the most wanted to the less wanted in each component:

Maybe I still change for IB generation.
Processor:
1) Intel i5 2500K
2) Intel i7 2700k (Before 2600K because the price difference is not big)
3) Intel i7 2600K
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I know everyone says 4GB is enough for gaming, 8GB is more than enough. But I think with 16GB I'll be more future proof.
Memory RAM:
1) 16GB (2x8GB) Corsair Dominator GT Series
2) 16GB (2x8GB) G.Skill Trident X Series
3) 16GB (2x8GB) G.Skill Ripjaws X Series
4) 16GB (2x8GB) Corsair Vengeance Series
5) 8GB (2x4GB) Corsair Dominator GT Series
6) 8GB (2x4GB) G.Skill Trident X Series
7) 8GB (2x4GB) G.Skill Ripjaws X Series
8) 8GB (2x4GB) Corsair Vengeance Series
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Besides EVGA for NVidia and Sapphire for Radeon which one are also good? Trying to extend my option list. ZOTAC, XFX, Diamond? Also, in case I decide SLI/XF, will I need anything else beside the 2 Video Cards?
Video/Graphic Cards:
1)EVGA SC Signature GeForce GTX 680
2)EVGA Superclocked GeForce GTX 680
3)EVGA GeForce GTX 680
4)Sapphire OC Radeon HD 7970
5)Sapphire Radeon HD 7970
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I think if she can't find none of these, I'll see how it goes with the original fans (I guess these processors come with a CPU Fan in the box) and then if necessary, change them here in Brazil. The same for the other case fans.
Cooling:
1) Corsair H100
2) Antec H20 920
3) Intel RTS2011LC
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Keyboards:
Need more options! Help please!
1) Logitech G19
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Mouse:
Keyboards:
Need more options! Help please!
1) Cyborg R.A.T. 9
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Headset:
Need more options! Help please! I don't think I can find this one in stores, only in their online site.
1) Astro A40
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The motherboard Still my biggest problem, which one should I get from Asus or Gigabyte (Z77)?
With my budget I guess I can buy a good one, if not the best.
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Just an opinion about the PSU, I'm going to buy it here in Brazil. Corsair 1200AX is a good option? What other brands are good?


Everything Ok? Opinions/suggestion please!

Thanks for the help guys.
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April 28, 2012 7:47:41 PM

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OK, a few things.
1)Intel and AMD are completely different platforms and cannot work together for CPUs and Motherboards. AMD graphics cards will work fine on an Intel system as they are platform agnostic.

2) ASUS and Gigabyte are the 2 top brands right now for motherboards, and ASRock and MSI are good budget boards (though with your price range there is no need for a budget board). Something in the $150-200 range should suit your needs, and make sure it has a z68 or z77 chipset on it with a 16x and 8x, or 8x and 8x PCIe configuration (for duel cards it does not matter if it is PCIe2 or 3)

3) For SLi and xFire you can expect somewhere between a 50-80% increase in FPS at 1080p on any given game with any given settings. However, anything over 60fps is just wasted horsepower unless you have a monitor that happens to be 120Hz/fps capable (but that is still pretty rare today). Most likely a single GTX680 or 7970 will last you quite well for a very long time, and in a year or two when you feel the need to upgrade you should have no problem picking up a 2nd card for 1/2 the price, or replacing the card with the next best thing. Keep checking online stores for availability. The GTX670 will be released soon, which will push demand for the 680 down a little bit, and production is still ramping up, so in a few weeks you should have no problem picking up one of these cards.

4) EVGA for nVidia cards, and Sapphire for AMD cards is generally the way to go, but any high end card maker is going to be pretty good.

5) Quad core is all you need, and hyper threading is simply not supported by video games, so an i5 2500 or 2550 is about as good as you can get for gaming unless you are using more than 2 GPUs. This may change in 2 years when the next gen consoles come out, but quad cores will still be more than enough horsepower for most games at extremely high settings (or at least higher than console settings). Plus in 2 years we should have Haswell CPUs out which should have 6-8 cores in them anyways. The only exception to this is if you are willing to wait for the Ivy Bridge i5 CPUs to come out in a month or so, which will have the advantage of PCIe3 support, but really this is not required.

6) For ram look for 1.5V DDR3 1600 or 2133 ram, and stay away from sticks that have really tall heat sinks (like the Corsair Dominator series). They work fine, but can interfere with some oversized coolers. Timings really do not matter unless you are doing extreme OCing with your memory which is not suggested unless you really know what you are doing. Personally I like Corsair and g.Skill, but there are plenty of other decent brands out there for memory.

7) LianLi use to be one of the best case manufacturers back in the '90s, but over the last 10 years they have really not kept up, and simply tend to be expensive with no added benefit. They still make some neat and slick looking cases, but there are several other better manufacturers out there now. Personally I like Corsair and Fractal Design for looks and features because they make cases that look very sleek and professional while offering tons of features even in their budget models. Thermaltake and Cooler Master also make some decent cases, but they often delve into designs that look like something that a teenager with too much money to burn would like... which really does not suit my tastes; but to each his own.

8) Newegg does not have a retail store. For PC parts try Bestbuy (which tends to be expensive and lacking in selection), Fry's electronics (which has excellent prices, but tends to have lower quality products, but has an excellent return policy... which you cannot take advantage of in Brazil), or Microcenter (which actually beats online stores on some prices like CPUs, Mod parts, SSDs/HDDs, Ram, but has terrible prices on other things like motherboards, software, and accessories).

9) While watercooling is fun it often has very little effect on cooling performance unless doing major overclocking and is simply not a requirement for extreme builds like it use to be. I have an i7 2600, and even at 4.2GHz I am only running ~40*c when under full load with a $30 CPU cooler. Granted you may need a little extra cooling power in Brazil where things are quite a bit hotter than where I live, but you should still be able to have sufficient cooling with a $30-60 air cooler even when pushing a system up to 4.5GHz or beyond.
If you do choose to do a water cooler then be careful about shipping if you assemble the computer before moving it down to Brazil! The last thing you want is to get water, or whatever other cooling fluids are used in LCLs all over your parts, and you have no idea how rough transport companies are going to be to your equipment.

10) With your budget consider getting a bigger/higher resolution screen. 1080p is just a starting point these days. I like my 1200p screen, and would love to have 1600p if I could afford it. According to Intel we should expect screen resolutions to skyrocket in the coming years :) 

Well, that is about it. Hellfire has an excellent set of parts, and if you deviate from them just be sure to take my suggestions when looking for alternatives. $2000 should be an overkill computer that will play at the highest settings for a good long time, and provide a platform that will have reusable parts for several rebuilds.

Actually, ASRock is about to steal the #2 spot from GIGABYTE soon.
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April 28, 2012 10:14:50 PM

asrock make the nicest boards, id say. overall, in general
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April 29, 2012 1:03:59 AM

About SSDs, between Corsair Force GT and OCZ Vertex 3, which one is better?
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April 29, 2012 3:28:09 AM

Neither. Get the Mushkin Enhanced Chronos for $125 or the Deluxe for $140.
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April 29, 2012 4:09:17 AM

asus makes the best boards followed by gigabyte.
+1 for mushkin.
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April 29, 2012 4:12:33 AM

ASRock is soon going to outsell GIGABYTE.
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April 29, 2012 4:49:52 AM

let's see.but i would take gigabyte over asrock :p 
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April 29, 2012 4:57:59 AM

I would take ASRock over GIGABYTE. :p 
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April 29, 2012 8:04:39 AM

I also said that ASRock is soon going to take the #2 spot and kick GIGABYTE to #3 because of the sales of the ASRock boards right now.
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April 29, 2012 8:17:15 AM

let's see what happens.the main reason i guess for asrock's success is extreme3/gen3.
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April 29, 2012 12:54:07 PM

Any other suggestion for the SSD?
They don't sell Mushkin at BestBuy, and I guess I'll stick to BestBuy, because Newegg didn't give me a return about the possibility of buying from here and picking up at their pick up store. Couldn't find it at Frys neither.
I'll try to chat with a Newegg seller on monday, maybe it's faster than waiting for an e-mail response!

I don't know if there are other good stores in that area, and I don't think my mother is goind to spend some time searching for stores.

Are these good choices (in order):
1) Mushkin
2) Corsair Force GT
3) OCZ Vertex 3
4) Crucial M4

*No RMA for Mushking, I guess the ones that have are:
Corsair, Intel and OCZ
I should consider this.
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April 29, 2012 6:46:49 PM

ocz was bad on early firmware, so theres a lot of hype about them not being good
with the newest firmware my ocz vertex 3 max iops works flawlessly
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April 29, 2012 8:57:10 PM

Unfortunately I cannot buy from Newegg because I need and American Credit/Debit Card.
I can't use Paypal neither International Credit Cards.

I think she will have to buy from Best Buy stores, are there any good stores near her hotel in Los Angeles or in Las Vegas?

Didn't find good stuffs being sold at Frys.
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April 30, 2012 1:24:51 AM

you can buy preloaded credit cards in a store
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April 30, 2012 11:27:54 PM

I don't know how it works.

BestBuy isn't selling IB Processors neither Z77 mobos?

What about the GTX690, I guess it will be released while my mother is in USA.
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May 3, 2012 7:52:23 PM

Any more suggestions / comments?
My mother is going to USA tomorrow, so I need to finish my list tonight.

Thanks
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May 4, 2012 6:01:30 AM

post your final list.
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May 4, 2012 11:14:20 AM

The stores I suggested her to search these stuffs are:
BestBuy, Fry’s, Micro Center, Outlet PC (Las Vegas) and Ma Labs.


CPU:
1) Intel i5 3570K
2) Intel i5 2500K
3) Intel i7 2700K
4) Intel i7 2600K

Mobo:
1) Asus P8Z77 WS
2) Asus P8Z77-V Deluxe
3) Asus SABERTOOTH Z77
4) GIGABYTE Z77X-UD5H-WB
5) GIGABYTE Z77X-UD5H

Memory (No G.Skill because I couldn't find a store near her hotel selling it):
1) Corsair Dominator GT 8GB (2x4GB) 2133MHz
2) Corsair Dominator 16GB (4x4GB) 1600MHz
3) Corsair Dominator 16GB (4x4GB) 1333MHz
4) Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2x8GB) 1600MHz
5) Corsair Dominator 8GB (2x4GB) 1600MHz
6) Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2x4GB) 1866MHz
7) Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2x4GB) 1600MHz

Graphic:
1) EVGA SC Signature GeForce GTX 680
2) EVGA Superclocked GeForce GTX 680
3) EVGA GeForce GTX 680
4) Sapphire OC Radeon HD 7970
5) Sapphire Radeon HD 7970
6) HIS IceQ X² Turbo Radeon HD 7970
7) HIS IceQ X² Radeon HD7970
8) HIS Fan Radeon HD7970
9) EVGA Signature GeForce GTX 690
10) EVGA GeForce GX 690

PSU:
1) Corsair 1200 AX

HD:
1) Seagate Barracuda 3TB

SSD:
1) Mushkin Chronos Deluxe 240GB
2) Corsair Force GT 240GB
3) OCZ Vertex3 240GB

WC:
1) Corsair H100
2) Antec H2O 920
3) Intel RTS2011LC
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May 4, 2012 11:32:24 AM

for overclocking and gaming,2500k is better choice then IB IMO.2500k is best bang for the buck cpu.
for motherboard,the last one is my suggestion,it provides you all useful features for a reasonable price.
for memory go with 8gb 1600mhz.#7 OFC.
go with evga gtx 680(#3)and overclock it yourself.
that power supply a massive overkill.go with a quality 850w.
i trust samsung and WD for hdds.better go with f4 2tb.
go with chronos deluxe as they are extremely reliable.
for cooling,none of them,CM 612 PWM is a better cooler for it's price.
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May 4, 2012 11:47:21 AM

Thanks for the comments!

CPU:
I'll take out IB from my list

Mobo:
Does the last one already have wi fi or will I need to buy a wireless card/adaptor?
Didn't find these mobos on Best Buy, better, didn't find any Z77 from Asus/Gigabyte.

Memory:
Any of them I guess will be OK, I've just put a lot of option because I don't know if it's easy to find them at Best Buy stores.

Graphic:
I never did an OC, so I'm not sure if I should try it in such a graphic card. Maybe I burn it. I just don't know if she will find any of these boards.

PSU:
Will the 850W model from Corsair handle all these components and maybe a future SLI/XF ?

HD:
All my HDs were Seagate, never had any problem.
I found WD 3TB on Best Buy, but it's SATA 2. Will I lose performance compairing to SATA 3?

SSD:
The problem is that Best Buy doesn't sell Mushkin, at least they are not listed in their site. I don't know if she will be able to find it.

WC:
I'm almost taking them out. Will stick to the original and see how it goes.
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May 4, 2012 1:35:03 PM

if you want WiFi+bluetooth then you have to spend a little more and get UD5H-WB but it's still cheaper then V-deluxe or sabertooth.
any of them is okay but high profile ram with 1866mhz will cause you issues.anything above 1600mhz is useless and voids your cpu warranty.heatspreaders cause cpu cooler clearance issues.better go with corsair vengeance low profile 1600mhz 1.5v dual channel 8gb ram.
no you won't burn it 90% but if you don't wanna oc then no problem gtx 680 is a very powerful card and destroys almost every game at stock speeds.
yes a quality 850w will handle 680 SLi+overclocks.
if you want trust that drive than go ahead.
if you can find crucial m4 series or samsung 830 than it's good as they are excellent performer with great reliability.
are you talking about stock cooler?if you are overclocking then you will be fine otherwise you need a good air cooler.
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May 4, 2012 2:34:17 PM

Thanks.

Changed the list.

Let's hope she can find all these stuffs and bring it to me =D.

I'm tired of playing BF3 on my PS3 and waiting for D3!
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May 4, 2012 2:54:08 PM

^good luck mate ;) 
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May 16, 2012 11:17:35 AM

What my mother found and bought so far:
-Sapphire OC Radeon HD 7970
-Intel i5 2500K
-Sabertooth Z77
-PSU Corsair 1200 AX

I don't think she will have time to search for the other components, so I guess I'll have to buy them here in Brazil.

My questions are now:
Is it too hard to build a PC?
Should I pay someone to build it for me?
I never built a computer, but I guess these things now are pretty simple, all "plug n play" right? Just a few tutorials here and there and I can make it?
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May 16, 2012 12:07:26 PM

components are a bit overkill but they will run like a dream.it is easy to build a pc.there are bunch of step to step guides and videos.
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May 17, 2012 11:15:17 AM

These are the components in the list she found.
She also bought a WC Corsair H100.

My mother will arrive here in this sunday. I think I'll buy the other components during the next week.
Maybe next weekend I'll try to build it.

One question about the H100, does it worth to buy 2 more fans and use push pull?
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