Photo Paper: Which side to print?

Archived from groups: rec.photo.digital (More info?)

"Thomas Minter" <thos.minter@sev.org> wrote in message
news:42BECF26.10200@sev.org...
> I have a box of officemax photo paper that is satin. What side do you
> print on? One side is dull and the other is somewhat glossy. Wouldn't
> you print on the dull side?
>
> I await your expert responses.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
>
I have some PC-Line satin which is printed on the dull side (an
'instruction' sheet was in the pack). Try holding a sheet horizontally
between you and a window - printing side should look slightly glossier than
standard Laser/Inkjet paper.

Archived from groups: rec.photo.digital (More info?)

On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:12:38 GMT, Gary Eickmeier
<geickmei@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

>
>
>DaveJ wrote:
>
>> "Thomas Minter" <thos.minter@sev.org> wrote in message
>> news:42BECF26.10200@sev.org...
>>
>>>I have a box of officemax photo paper that is satin. What side do you
>>>print on? One side is dull and the other is somewhat glossy. Wouldn't
>>>you print on the dull side?
>>>
>>>I await your expert responses.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Tom
>>>
>>
>> I have some PC-Line satin which is printed on the dull side (an
>> 'instruction' sheet was in the pack). Try holding a sheet horizontally
>> between you and a window - printing side should look slightly glossier than
>> standard Laser/Inkjet paper.
>
>I would agree - the emulsion side should be the glossier one. What is
>really maddening is the "matte" papers from both Epson and Canon. They
>are absolutely identical looking on both sides, but the instructions say
>to be sure and print on the coated side. Anyone?
>
>Gary Eickmeier

In my experience, the printing side is the "top" side.
Which side is the top? When you open the package, the "top" is obvious
to me.
In a hard box, the top is the side the top of the box lifts off from.
IOW, take off the 'lid' of the box, what you see is the top surface.
In a pouch style package, the top is the side towards the front of the
pouch. IOW, hold the pouch so the front is towards you; open the
pouch, and lift out a sheet. You're looking at the top side of the
sheet.

--
Bill Funk
replace "g" with "a"

Archived from groups: rec.photo.digital (More info?)

"Gary Eickmeier" <geickmei@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:amBve.186831$w15.41370@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
> I would agree - the emulsion side should be the glossier one. What
> is really maddening is the "matte" papers from both Epson and Canon.
> They are absolutely identical looking on both sides, but the
> instructions say to be sure and print on the coated side. Anyone?

Take a single sheet and bend it over itself so you can see both the
front and back at the same time ... print on the whiter/lighter side
(I think

Archived from groups: rec.photo.digital (More info?)

On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:12:38 GMT, Gary Eickmeier <geickmei@tampabay.rr.com>
wrote:

>
>
>DaveJ wrote:
>
>> "Thomas Minter" <thos.minter@sev.org> wrote in message
>> news:42BECF26.10200@sev.org...
>>
>>>I have a box of officemax photo paper that is satin. What side do you
>>>print on? One side is dull and the other is somewhat glossy. Wouldn't
>>>you print on the dull side?
>>>
>>>I await your expert responses.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Tom
>>>
>>
>> I have some PC-Line satin which is printed on the dull side (an
>> 'instruction' sheet was in the pack). Try holding a sheet horizontally
>> between you and a window - printing side should look slightly glossier than
>> standard Laser/Inkjet paper.
>
>I would agree - the emulsion side should be the glossier one. What is
>really maddening is the "matte" papers from both Epson and Canon. They
>are absolutely identical looking on both sides, but the instructions say
>to be sure and print on the coated side. Anyone?
>
>Gary Eickmeier

Sometimes the printable side looks bluer then the other, you have to compare it
to standard paper, such as fan-fold (remember that?). I have some Weyerhaeuser
satin/matt paper that is almost impossible to tell until you put it beside
regular paper, then the print side looks really blue!

Archived from groups: rec.photo.digital (More info?)

In article <42BECF26.10200@sev.org>,
Thomas Minter <thos.minter@sev.org> wrote:

> I have a box of officemax photo paper that is satin. What side do you
> print on? One side is dull and the other is somewhat glossy. Wouldn't
> you print on the dull side?
>
> I await your expert responses.
>
Simple - print on either side. If it looks terrible, you've printed on
the wrong side, just turn the paper over and print again

Archived from groups: rec.photo.digital (More info?)

On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:23:02 GMT, Gary Eickmeier wrote:

> I would agree - the emulsion side should be the glossier one. What is
> really maddening is the "matte" papers from both Epson and Canon.
> They are absolutely identical looking on both sides, but the instructions
> say to be sure and print on the coated side. Anyone?

>> In a hard box, the top is the side the top of the box lifts off from.
>> IOW, take off the 'lid' of the box, what you see is the top surface.
>> In a pouch style package, the top is the side towards the front of the
>> pouch. IOW, hold the pouch so the front is towards you; open the
>> pouch, and lift out a sheet. You're looking at the top side of the
>> sheet.
>
> Gosh, that sure makes it easy. Silly of me - to think that they might
> have printed a logo or some hint on the backside to let us know.

I don't have matte paper to check, but the with my glossy papers,
Canon's reverse side is blank, but the Epson paper has the word
"Epson" visible is you look very carefully. It's not a watermark,
but almost as difficult to see. If your matte Epson papers don't
have this, is there any chance that they were purchased from a store
such as Wal-Mart, known to distribute slightly non-standard versions
of paper, presumably because they buy such large amounts that they
can pay less and have at least a slight ability to 're-spec' the
product?

Archived from groups: rec.photo.digital (More info?)

ASAAR wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:23:02 GMT, Gary Eickmeier wrote:
>
>> I would agree - the emulsion side should be the glossier one. What
>> is
>> really maddening is the "matte" papers from both Epson and Canon.
>> They are absolutely identical looking on both sides, but the
>> instructions say to be sure and print on the coated side. Anyone?
>
>>> In a hard box, the top is the side the top of the box lifts off
>>> from. IOW, take off the 'lid' of the box, what you see is the top
>>> surface. In a pouch style package, the top is the side towards the
>>> front of the pouch. IOW, hold the pouch so the front is towards
>>> you; open the pouch, and lift out a sheet. You're looking at the
>>> top side of the sheet.
>>
>> Gosh, that sure makes it easy. Silly of me - to think that they
>> might
>> have printed a logo or some hint on the backside to let us know.
>
> I don't have matte paper to check, but the with my glossy papers,
> Canon's reverse side is blank, but the Epson paper has the word
> "Epson" visible is you look very carefully. It's not a watermark,
> but almost as difficult to see. If your matte Epson papers don't
> have this, is there any chance that they were purchased from a store
> such as Wal-Mart, known to distribute slightly non-standard versions
> of paper, presumably because they buy such large amounts that they
> can pay less and have at least a slight ability to 're-spec' the
> product?

Mr Costco's hard box (Kirkland Professional Glossy Inkjet Photo Paper)
is sold with an Epson-like decor. Somewhere I read it is made in
Switzerland. Egad.

Any road, it's easy to tell which side, very glossy; however, its
formula renders a green-shift defect in every image printed from my
creaky old Epson Stylus Color 750. Genuine Epson Glossy Photo Paper
and matte, and that expensive 'professional' paper yield excellent
color interpretations. And they are marked on the back.

--
Frank ess

Archived from groups: rec.photo.digital (More info?)

On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:19:28 -0700, in rec.photo.digital "Frank ess"
<frank@fshe2fs.com> wrote:

>Mr Costco's hard box (Kirkland Professional Glossy Inkjet Photo Paper)
>is sold with an Epson-like decor. Somewhere I read it is made in
>Switzerland. Egad.
>
> Any road, it's easy to tell which side, very glossy; however, its
>formula renders a green-shift defect in every image printed from my
>creaky old Epson Stylus Color 750. Genuine Epson Glossy Photo Paper
>and matte, and that expensive 'professional' paper yield excellent
>color interpretations. And they are marked on the back.

Frank,

It's supposedly made by Ilford. Did you go to the Ilford site and download
the closest profile for the paper. That made a difference with my R800.
----------
Ed Ruf Lifetime AMA# 344007 (Usenet@EdwardG.Ruf.com)
See images taken with my CP-990/5700 & D70 at
http://edwardgruf.com/Digital_Phot [...] index.html