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April 28, 2012 9:33:36 PM

Hi all ... I haven't used these forums before, but I figured I would ask you guys about my new build seeing as how the people here seem knowledgeable, and I'm fairly new to all of this. This computer will be used for gaming almost entirely. Here goes ...

Approximate Purchase Date: Within a week

Budget Range: $1500-1750

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, internet surfing, movies occasionally

Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, speakers, OS, PSU (Corsair HX Series 1000W 80 Plus), case (HAF X)

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com, amazon.com, wherever is cheapest

Country: USA

Parts Preferences: any major manufacturer

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: Not right now, but I would like to be able to have two 680's in SLI sometime in the future

Monitor Resolution: 1920 x 1200

Additional Comments: I have been researching these parts for a while. I have been going back and forth between an x79 i7 3820 build, a z77 i5 3570k, and a z68 i5 2500k build ...

Here's what I'm looking at:

CPU - i5 3570k/i7 3820/i5 2500k (I'm assuming I don't need to link to these since they're pretty well-known.)

Mobo - GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD5H-WB LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or

ASUS Rampage IV Gene LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or

ASUS P8Z68 DELUXE/GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Vid card - EVGA SuperClocked 02G-P4-2682-KR GeForce GTX 680 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
(I was lucky enough to find one of these online today - I will get it on Friday. Probably try to get a second ~ six months.)

Memory - G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HD - Kingston HyperX SH100S3B/120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU cooling - CORSAIR H80 (CWCH80) High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Monitor - Dell UltraSharp U2412M Black IPS Panel
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I was 100% sure I was going with Ivy Bridge until I started reading the not-so-great reviews about high temperatures. I want an overclockable (mid 4 GHz range) and stable system that will be able to last at least 2 - 2.5 years. I want to play all sorts of games, from BF3 to SC2 to Sims 3. So what does everybody think?

Thanks in advance for your help! :) 

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April 28, 2012 9:46:43 PM

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I was 100% sure I was going with Ivy Bridge until I started reading the not-so-great reviews about high temperatures. I want an overclockable (mid 4 GHz range) and stable system that will be able to last at least 2 - 2.5 years. I want to play all sorts of games, from BF3 to SC2 to Sims 3. So what does everybody think?


Yeah the high temperatures of Ivy concern me as well - I've been a naysayer of Ivy - and so far the benchmarks and reviews that have been coming out of the 3770K have only been proving my point.

Don't get an H80 - go with a strong air fan instead, there's very few and rare instances where I'd recommend liquid cooling.

As far as the motherboard goes - if you've got a HAF X - I wouldn't get any of the above. Instead for $1500 here's what I would recommend:

Motherboard: EVGA Z77 FTW - $329.99
CPU: 3.30GHz Intel Core i5-2500k - $219.99
RAM: 8GB Kingston Hyper X 1600MHz 1.5V - $69.99
Cooler: Noctua D14 - $103.99
SSD: 128GB Crucial M4 - $139.99
HD: Samsung Ecogreen F4 2TB - $129.99
Optical: LG Blu Ray Burner - $79.99
Video Card: EVGA Geforce GTX 680 - $499.99

Total: $1569.93

I know the motherboard will be a bit overkill for some - but any long term expansion options you may have will not be any issue at all. Monitors and peripherals are entirely personal preference which is why I don't include them in most builds.
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April 28, 2012 9:47:01 PM

For gaming, do not waste $ on an LGA 2011 socket. You won't reap the benefits unless you do something more CPU-intensive. Get the i5.
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April 28, 2012 9:48:41 PM

Do not waste $ on the Deluxe. Get the P8Z68-V/Gen3 or the ASRock Z77 Extreme4 gen3 motherboard (I recommend the Z77 board). I love the monitor choice. I plan to get the little brother, the U2312HM. :) 
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April 28, 2012 10:50:32 PM

Thanks for the replies :) 

The only reason I was on the wall about the CPU/mobo is because I've read that two gtx 680's in SLI can saturate PCI 2.0, and so I wanted to make sure I got the most out of my (future) two 680's. But I've also read other posts that say this is not true ... do y'all know of any reliable tests/benchmarks about this?

Yeah, I'm so excited to try out this system on the 2412m!
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April 28, 2012 11:00:13 PM

g-unit1111 said:
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I was 100% sure I was going with Ivy Bridge until I started reading the not-so-great reviews about high temperatures. I want an overclockable (mid 4 GHz range) and stable system that will be able to last at least 2 - 2.5 years. I want to play all sorts of games, from BF3 to SC2 to Sims 3. So what does everybody think?


Yeah the high temperatures of Ivy concern me as well - I've been a naysayer of Ivy - and so far the benchmarks and reviews that have been coming out of the 3770K have only been proving my point.

Don't get an H80 - go with a strong air fan instead, there's very few and rare instances where I'd recommend liquid cooling.

As far as the motherboard goes - if you've got a HAF X - I wouldn't get any of the above. Instead for $1500 here's what I would recommend:

Motherboard: EVGA Z77 FTW - $329.99
CPU: 3.30GHz Intel Core i5-2500k - $219.99
RAM: 8GB Kingston Hyper X 1600MHz 1.5V - $69.99
Cooler: Noctua D14 - $103.99
SSD: 128GB Crucial M4 - $139.99
HD: Samsung Ecogreen F4 2TB - $129.99
Optical: LG Blu Ray Burner - $79.99
Video Card: EVGA Geforce GTX 680 - $499.99

Total: $1569.93

I know the motherboard will be a bit overkill for some - but any long term expansion options you may have will not be any issue at all. Monitors and peripherals are entirely personal preference which is why I don't include them in most builds.


Thank you for your reply. Yeah, I was looking at the Noctua D14 before the H80. I read on a couple of different sites where the H80 was better at cooling an overclocked i5 3570k, so I went with it. But I'm thinking that the Noctua is still probably better overall (reliability, safety, etc.). Good call.

I don't need the optical or HD (I already have them. Sorry, I didn't post that in my initial ... posting.)

Why did you choose that motherboard over say an asus?
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April 28, 2012 11:12:03 PM

juddsan18 said:
Thank you for your reply. Yeah, I was looking at the Noctua D14 before the H80. I read on a couple of different sites where the H80 was better at cooling an overclocked i5 3570k, so I went with it. But I'm thinking that the Noctua is still probably better overall (reliability, safety, etc.). Good call.

I don't need the optical or HD (I already have them. Sorry, I didn't post that in my initial ... posting.)

Why did you choose that motherboard over say an asus?


EVGA makes good products and this board is made specifically for high-end gamers with XL-ATX cases, it has room for up to 4-way SLI - with a dedicated power port for your PCI slots, and has enough room so expansion won't be a problem. It will be if you get the GENE-Z.
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May 1, 2012 1:25:53 AM

g-unit1111 said:
EVGA makes good products and this board is made specifically for high-end gamers with XL-ATX cases, it has room for up to 4-way SLI - with a dedicated power port for your PCI slots, and has enough room so expansion won't be a problem. It will be if you get the GENE-Z.


Yeah, I dig EVGA as well. I looked at that motherboard, and unfortunately it's a little out of my price range. I'm pretty much set with all of the rest of my components, except for the motherboard. I want an a good all-around board that's no more than $225. Good overclocking, LAN chip, integrated sound, with room enough for two gtx 680s. Any recommendations?

Thanks!
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May 1, 2012 5:53:54 PM

juddsan18 said:
Yeah, I dig EVGA as well. I looked at that motherboard, and unfortunately it's a little out of my price range. I'm pretty much set with all of the rest of my components, except for the motherboard. I want an a good all-around board that's no more than $225. Good overclocking, LAN chip, integrated sound, with room enough for two gtx 680s. Any recommendations?

Thanks!


I'm personally getting this board for my system: www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681315729...

I wanted the EVGA board but considering it's an XL-ATX board and my case isn't an XL-ATX case that wouldn't mix very well.
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May 1, 2012 6:32:51 PM

For 2 680s, a quality 750W PSU is good.
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May 6, 2012 8:25:54 PM

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