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April 29, 2012 5:01:42 PM

Well, today newegg got the ivy bridge cpus listed, which is what I've been waiting for. I got some good build advice here a few weeks ago, but decided to wait instead. Since then I've changed a few things and would like you guys to look it over for me.

ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM


COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 Black SECC/ ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case


CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CML8GX3M2A1600C9B
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820233196

Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)


Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM


COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO


ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX806237I53570K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Had to swap a few things around, the crucial m4 went on sale, and the one i had added went off sale, haha. I don't have a gpu added because i think ill use the integrated graphics for a little while until i see what nvidia brings out for their mid range cards, and it'll split up my spending making it a bit easier to swallow. i'll only really be playing league of legends and D3 when it comes out, if this crappy laptop can handle it, i think the integrated graphics will be ok on low.

I know the IB processors don't OC as well apparently, but i wont be going real high, maybe 4.2 or so. And i would also like to know if theres anything else im missing, maybe some cables or something that might not be included? this will be my first build, and when the parts get here, i would like to have it together pretty much the same day (crossing fingers on no DOA's).

Sorry about the wall of text, i just dont wanna mess this up haha.

Newly updated list: $878

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April 29, 2012 5:05:46 PM

Why are you getting the Micro-ATX version of the ASRock? I would get a Scythe Mugen 3, a little better than the 212 EVO, but not Noctua status.
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April 29, 2012 5:19:49 PM

gary1 said:
Why are you getting the Micro-ATX version of the ASRock? I would get a Scythe Mugen 3, a little better than the 212 EVO, but not Noctua status.



Damn, guess i didn't notice that, I just saw the extreme4 in a combo deal and added it. Guess ill ditch the combo and get the one i had added originally. There is some combos with some ASUS boards, but i really don't have an idea on which ones are any good.


Edit: got rid of the combo, put my original choice back up and listed them seperately
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April 29, 2012 5:21:08 PM

It looks good. The only thing is that you're getting a 650W PSU for GPU's that you don't know anything about yet. If the Power draw of these possible cards is closer to the GTX 680, you might be cutting it close if you SLI. You may want to think about bumping it a bit higher.

Just a guide, max power draw of a single gtx 680 is about 240. So 2x that plus CPU plus peripherals.
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April 29, 2012 5:26:11 PM

I don't think he's going to SLI. And any of the ASUS Z77 boards are pretty good, just compare each one and see what features you want.
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April 29, 2012 5:30:57 PM

l0v3rboi said:
It looks good. The only thing is that you're getting a 650W PSU for GPU's that you don't know anything about yet. If the Power draw of these possible cards is closer to the GTX 680, you might be cutting it close if you SLI. You may want to think about bumping it a bit higher.

Just a guide, max power draw of a single gtx 680 is about 240. So 2x that plus CPU plus peripherals.



Yeah, my original build had a 750 watt psu, i may change back, but I'm pretty sure i wont SLI. The monitor i have atm is an old dell lcd that im sure isnt even high def, which is why im waiting on the gpu.

nhasian:
Thanks for the recommendation, i'll have to do a bit of research. From what i hear a lot of ssd's have issues and a lot of people recommend the m4 which is why i wasnt afraid of choosing it. I just dont want to have to replace the thing constantly so i want to make sure i find a fairly reasonable one.
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April 29, 2012 5:33:19 PM

jsimon said:
Yeah, my original build had a 750 watt psu, i may change back, but I'm pretty sure i wont SLI. The monitor i have atm is an old dell lcd that im sure isnt even high def, which is why im waiting on the gpu.


Oic.. you can get the asrock z77 pro 3 (i think that's what it's called) or the gigabyte z77-d3h MoBo then. The Extreme 4 is meant for SLI/xFire. Just something you can consider if you want to save some money.
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April 29, 2012 5:37:37 PM

l0v3rboi said:
Oic.. you can get the asrock z77 pro 3 (i think that's what it's called) or the gigabyte z77-d3h MoBo then. The Extreme 4 is meant for SLI/xFire. Just something you can consider if you want to save some money.



I think i'd rather just upgrade my psu. Who knows what i'll want later down the road, im indecisive as hell. Might as well leave some upgrade paths open. lol


Edit: there, bumped it back up to the 750w PSU. Hopefully thatll give me some headroom incase i get crazy with it later on.
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April 29, 2012 5:41:33 PM

jsimon said:
I think i'd rather just upgrade my psu. Who knows what i'll want later down the road, im indecisive as hell. Might as well leave some upgrade paths open. lol


:lol:  Understandable! I was like that before. But, after months of drooling over PC Hardware and thinking about what I want, I just decided to pull the trigger and bought my stuff. It's refreshing not to have to think about what I want constantly anymore.
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April 29, 2012 5:41:59 PM

go with the crucial m4 like you had chosen, not the force like nhasian suggested...
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April 29, 2012 11:22:51 PM

another question, Would this asus board be a good choice? I can't tell much of a difference between it and the Asrock, except it does have 2 less 6gb/s Sata but in not sure if thats a big deal or not. (if theyre only used for storage i wont have more than my ssd and 1 hdd later).

Just considering it because there's a combo deal with the ib i5. If it isn't any better, i wont bother, if it is i might consider it.


ASUS P8Z77-V LK LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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April 29, 2012 11:38:17 PM

correct me if im wrong, but isnt that the 2500k equivilent? 250 bucks? did i miss something?
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April 29, 2012 11:41:34 PM

neon neophyte said:
correct me if im wrong, but isnt that the 2500k equivilent? 250 bucks? did i miss something?


yeah, thats what it is, i suppose since its new theyre priced 30 over the SB, was hoping it'd be 220 but i guess not :( 
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April 29, 2012 11:48:27 PM

ive seen the 2500k go for as low as 180. 250? haha.
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April 29, 2012 11:49:57 PM

1. I'm not buying IB CPU's with he OC performance and temperature issues I'm seeing n reviews today. I'll do in laptops immediately but not in any desktop likely to see any significant OC's.

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4673/intel_core_i7_377...

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Intel's 3770k brings with it some new features to the table alongside the new Z77 platform, but out of the box the performance is similar to the 2600k and 2700k. At the same price point you'd choose the 3770k when it came to out of the box performance and the fact that it's the newest technology.

If you're going to be overclocking, though, then the decision becomes a bit harder. With a more consistent record of higher clocks, we'd opt for the Sandy Bridge 2600k or 2700k most of the time. This is especially in the event that you're looking for some series clocks out of your system. What you would really want is a 2600k or 2700k that has been pre-tested in the second hand market for best value.

The 3770k is a good CPU and if you're not going to overclock (or don't know how to overclock or don't want to get into that) or just do some slight overclocking, we'd choose it over the 2600k or 2700k with ease. If you want to really get down and dirty, though, with some overclocking, you'd be better off looking at the 2600k or 2700k new or on the second hand market, especially since the price of these chips will likely drop now that they have been replaced with newer Ivy Bridge parts. Paired with a new Z77 based motherboard, you'd have yourself a really nice system.


http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/4621/intel_ivy_bridge...

Granted this was an early production unit but .....11C hotter than a 2600k @ stock speeds ????? 97C at 4.8 GHz while 2600 k is 75C at 5.2 ?????

2. I know it's cheap but I can't get behind a case in this day and age w/ no front USB port.

3. I'd spend a bit more on RAM for one of these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...|20-233-186^20-233-186-TS%2C20-233-196^20-233-196-TS%2C20-233-199^20-233-199-TS

4. With your low OC, the TX should be more than adequate.....but this XFX gets the same 9.5 jonnyguru performance rating, is same price and comes with a free game

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

5. At current pricing (just $5 more), I'd move up tot he 612 PWM .... it knocks out coolers costing twice as much
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

6. M4 is a Tier 5 unit, Force 3 is Tier 8 .... dropping a tier is the equivalent of a 10% performance drop

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-storage-value,3...

I'd move up to a Tier 3 SSD like the Chronos Deluxe is $140.....which not only has top of the line speed but premium toshiba extended long life flash

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4328/mushkin_chronos_d...

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To sum it all up with a bow on top, you get amazing performance, extremely long service life and a hassle free low price point on a drive that literally has very little competition in the marketplace.


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April 30, 2012 12:00:13 AM

JackNaylorPE said:
1. I'm not buying IB CPU's with he OC performance and temperature issues I'm seeing n reviews today. I'll do in laptops immediately but not in any desktop likely to see any significant OC's.

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4673/intel_core_i7_377...

Quote:
Intel's 3770k brings with it some new features to the table alongside the new Z77 platform, but out of the box the performance is similar to the 2600k and 2700k. At the same price point you'd choose the 3770k when it came to out of the box performance and the fact that it's the newest technology.

If you're going to be overclocking, though, then the decision becomes a bit harder. With a more consistent record of higher clocks, we'd opt for the Sandy Bridge 2600k or 2700k most of the time. This is especially in the event that you're looking for some series clocks out of your system. What you would really want is a 2600k or 2700k that has been pre-tested in the second hand market for best value.

The 3770k is a good CPU and if you're not going to overclock (or don't know how to overclock or don't want to get into that) or just do some slight overclocking, we'd choose it over the 2600k or 2700k with ease. If you want to really get down and dirty, though, with some overclocking, you'd be better off looking at the 2600k or 2700k new or on the second hand market, especially since the price of these chips will likely drop now that they have been replaced with newer Ivy Bridge parts. Paired with a new Z77 based motherboard, you'd have yourself a really nice system.


http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/4621/intel_ivy_bridge...

Granted this was an early production unit but .....11C hotter than a 2600k @ stock speeds ????? 97C at 4.8 GHz while 2600 k is 75C at 5.2 ?????

2. I know it's cheap but I can't get behind a case in this day and age w/ no front USB port.

3. I'd spend a bit more on RAM for one of these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...|20-233-186^20-233-186-TS%2C20-233-196^20-233-196-TS%2C20-233-199^20-233-199-TS

4. With your low OC, the TX should be more than adequate.....but this XFX gets the same 9.5 jonnyguru performance rating, is same price and comes with a free game

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

5. At current pricing (just $5 more), I'd move up tot he 612 PWM .... it knocks out coolers costing twice as much
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

6. M4 is a Tier 5 unit, Force 3 is Tier 8 .... dropping a tier is the equivalent of a 10% performance drop

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-storage-value,3...

I'd move up to a Tier 3 SSD like the Chronos Deluxe is $140.....which not only has top of the line speed but premium toshiba extended long life flash

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4328/mushkin_chronos_d...

Quote:
To sum it all up with a bow on top, you get amazing performance, extremely long service life and a hassle free low price point on a drive that literally has very little competition in the marketplace.



Thanks a lot for the recommendations. I was aware of the temp issues on IB, but like i said, i dont think ill be overclocking real high, and without knowing when im going to finally grab a gpu, i kind of wanted the updated integrated gpu. and i think there was some other newer benefits of IB, like pci 3.0 or something, i just thought it would be a better choice for some1 who isnt going to be overclocking real high.

I never edited, but i actually changed my ram due to a combo deal.

CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CML8GX3M2A1600C9B
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
is that a better idea?

I'll go ahead and take a look at the rest of the stuff you mentioned, more than happy to spend a few more bucks if itll mean less hassle later on.
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April 30, 2012 12:10:03 AM

i would agree IB was the better choice for non overclockers, if it wasnt priced so terribly. thats almost 2600k territory. if you really need the onboard gpu, its definately good to have.

pcie 3.0 is useless at this point
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April 30, 2012 12:24:29 AM

Not sure what you mean about the case, it says it has 2 front usb ports, or did you mean something else?
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