Sign in with
Sign up | Sign in
Your question

Gpu/Psu help

Last response: in Systems
Share
April 29, 2012 6:59:28 PM

I need some opinions on what gpu to buy. I dont want to spend more than $1500 overall. Also im not sure what psu to get since i havent picked out a gpu. I will be mostly gaming on this rig so i want a half way decent card

Here is what i have so far.


Cd drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Cpu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Cpu cooler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Also would you recommend getting a ssd to put the OS on. Is there is big difference if i were to just have it on the hard drive?

Thanks

More about : gpu psu

April 29, 2012 7:42:46 PM

Switch the HDD to a 7200rpm. Also, I would get a 64GB Crucial M4 SSD for OS and a few programs/games. I would REALLY switch the CPU to an i5-2500k. You're overclocking, right? Basically, with everything I would change (CPU to an i5-2500k... it's not worth it to spend $50 on IB, since IB is a worse overclocker and HDD to a 7200rpm. Since the 7200rpm costs about $50 more, then the price is equalized), the total comes out to about $700 (minus SSD, PSU, and GPU). That leaves another $800 for the most important components! Let's start with the GPU:

MSI Twin Frozr II OC GTX 680: Best GPU out there. However, it seems to be out of stock at newegg, as it has been for a while. Hopefully the supply improves... I hate how Nvidia is purposely inflating the prices. If you really don't want to wait, you can get the MSI Twin Frozr II OC 7870, although the performance will be lower.
680: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
7870: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

680: $550
7870: $370

I'll assume you're buying the 680.

That leaves $250 for the PSU and SSD... just enough. With SLI 680s, 15% capacitor aging, a hefty overclock, and a lot of other stuff, you will need about 650W minimum (using eXtreme PSU calculator). A PSU works best between 20% and 80% of load, so I'm selecting the PC Power and Cooling Silencer MK II 750W Silver Rated PSU (it's non modular, but the HAF case has more than enough room for cable management). Great pricing for a VERY reliable PSU with a silver rating, and more than enough power for SLI!: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$105, $85 with MIR

That leaves $145 for the SSD (I never factor in MIR). That's enough to get a 128GB SSD! Meaning, you can put OS, a bunch of games, and a bunch of programs! It's $125; Crucial M4: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It's about the best price/performance deal out there, with a very reliable company (I have a Crucial SSD).

Total? We are at about $1480, leaving room for price differences. If you went with a 7870, that would be about $1300.
m
0
l
April 29, 2012 7:50:58 PM

I was planning on buying my components today. Also I think amazon has a few 680s in stock still
m
0
l
Related resources
Can't find your answer ? Ask !
April 29, 2012 7:55:52 PM

Whoa. EVGA Superclocked is $650! That's insane!

Could you wait till May 1st? It's Tuesday. The MSI will be in-stock.. although at that price... wow...
http://www.amazon.com/MSI-DisplayPort-DL-DVI-I-DL-DVI-D...

Wait no, scratch that. It's not the Twin Frozr II OC version. Get an EVGA, then.. make sure it has two fans.
m
0
l
April 29, 2012 7:59:56 PM

It's just that for some reason, they only have one fan. I have no idea why.
EDIT:
I found the MSI Twin Frozr II OC version! Here: http://www.amazon.com/MSI-N680GTX-Twin-Frozr-2GD5/dp/B0...

However, it is $667... or $100 over what I thought it would be. Because of that, I think you can downgrade the motherboard to an ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 (Z77 doesn't add anything much, especially with a SB chip), or a Pro3 Gen3. Not much you can shave elsewhere, though.
m
0
l
April 29, 2012 8:06:30 PM

Yea I might as well wait for the price to go down. right now im stuck with a netbook that turns off if you disconnect it from the wall D: lol
m
0
l
April 29, 2012 8:13:50 PM

Surprisingly enough, so am I (laptop with a battery so dead I can literally see the percentage go down. 1.4ghz CPU!) ;) 

NVidia is releasing the 690 (for like $1000) which may cause some 680s to go back in stock. I seriously do not like Nvidia for doing this. I suppose you could go with a last-gen Radeon 7970 (I say last-gen loosely... it was released like a few months ago). It uses more power, but it's still good.
m
0
l
April 29, 2012 10:10:02 PM

getting a 680 isnt that big of a deal to me, i dont need to play every game on ultra high settings =P
m
0
l
April 30, 2012 12:45:51 AM

In that case, I'm sure a 7870 will do fine. It'll still play every game on ultra, just maybe not at 60fps on a 1080p screen. Turning down the AA a bit will fix it, though.
m
0
l
April 30, 2012 1:05:33 AM
April 30, 2012 1:17:24 AM

An SSD will make a HUGE difference in performance and boot speeds. Not fps on games, but overall performance.

GPU: I'd totally get the Gigabyte... THREE fans, same clock speed as the Sapphire, great reliability, and the same price. You can overclock it farther, and it'll be cooler and quieter. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Everything else looks great!
m
0
l
April 30, 2012 1:20:04 AM

How large of an ssd should i go? 64/128?
m
0
l
April 30, 2012 1:31:33 AM

keep-it-g-rated said:
How large of an ssd should i go? 64/128?


64 if your running OS+a few programs, 128+ if your running OS+several games+several design/cad packages.
m
0
l
April 30, 2012 1:44:30 AM

keep-it-g-rated said:
Alright i added this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Now for the last thing. Will need to purchase any additional cables for connecting any of this stuff?


your mobo should give you the same amount of SATA cables equal to the number of sata ports on the board
m
0
l
April 30, 2012 1:48:45 AM

Awesome, Thanks for the feedback you guys. Ill be ordering everything now
m
0
l
April 30, 2012 1:51:33 AM

128G definitely allows ample room for your O/S install and numerous games and programs.

The SSD is a game changer for overall system enhancement and performance.

The response times for game play won't be a lot different but the overall increase in system performance and boot times are fantastic...also search times and you app response time in menus and such are much quicker.

The difference with a ssd as primary hdd is VERY noticeable and your systems "feel" is incredibly snappy!

I have a 1TB storage samsung spinpoint for all my downloads, images, back-ups local, and I have all my everyday apps installed and my O/S installed to the ssd...I run office and a light system with small programs to the tune of about 65 GBs total. That's on both my desktop and my everyday use laptop.


as far as the PSU..your chosen psu...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

versus this...http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PLEASE take a look at the warranty..for $40 you double the warranty +1 yr... and up your wattage significantly...for just a little bit more...

it's worth it to own one of the best line of psus ever designed and ALL the heat is exhausted outside your case AND it provides Industry leading "ripple free" power and this companys product has been only ever produced as a "Single Rail" PSU.

The reason they are considered legendary for reliability and super clean, steady power.

Just a suggestion...I have never bought anything else and have NEVER had a power issue of any kind in 10+ years of custom builds and many,many, many years of repairing others pc's.

It's all personal preferences and what you know and trust... then... squeezed by budget constraints :) 

So go with what you know and be comfortable...then discover the joy of building your own machine and tinkering with everything possible to get the machine "Just the way YOU like it!"
m
0
l
April 30, 2012 2:13:22 AM

Your link is bad! Argh! Still can copy and paste, though.

Anyway, that PSU isn't necessary. I mean, if the PSU breaks in 6 years instead of 7, well... bad luck. However, if it doesn't break in the first year, it's probably not going to break for a while.

On a more practical standpoint, it's $40 more for another year of warranty (also, more wattage isn't necessary at all).... and it doesn't even have a top fan. It's got worse cooling, which means it'll be louder and hotter.

Also, all PSUs exhaust out of the case if you do it right... most put the PSU so it exhausts out of the bottom/back.

Also, you said you've never had a power issue in 10+ years of building... so why pay $40 more for another year of warranty that you'll probably not even need?
m
0
l
April 30, 2012 2:55:52 AM

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Carbide-Series-Mid-Tower-... $79.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Corsair Carbide Series 300R Mid-Tower Gaming Case - CC-9011014-WW

http://www.corsair.com/pc-cases/carbide-series-pc-case/... <----- another look at that 300R

http://www.amazon.com/OCZ-Series-80PLUS-Performance-com... $89.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
OCZ ZS Series 750W 80PLUS Bronze High Performance Power Supply compatible with Intel Sandy Bridge Core i3 i5 i7 and AMD Phenom

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $134.99
ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $249.99 FREE SHIPPING
Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX806237I53570K

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-2... $34.95 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler (RR-212E-20PK-R2)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $44.99 FREE SHIPPING
G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9D-8GAO

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-AD-7280S-0B-Internal-Drive-B... $17.99 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
Sony AD-7280S-0B 24x SATA Internal DVD+/-RW Drive (Black)

http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-3-5-Inch-Intern... $99.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Seagate Barracuda 7200 1 TB 7200RPM SATA 6 Gb/s NCQ 64MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive ST1000DM003

http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-SSDNow-120GB-Solid-KW-S2... $129.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Kingston SSDNow V+200 120GB SATA III 6Gb/s 2.5 Inch Solid State Drive KW-S2120-4B

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004Q0PT3I/ref=s9_simh... $99.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit (Full) System Builder DVD 1 Pack

Total: $982.86 *not including shipping and rebates


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $369.99 - $349.99 after mail-in rebate card FREE SHIPPING 5% off w/ promo code MSI425, ends 4/30
MSI R7870 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 Video Card

http://www.overclockers.com/msi-r7870-twin-frozr <----- review w/benchmarks of that MSI 7870

or...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $359.99
GIGABYTE GV-R787OC-2GD Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

http://www.guru3d.com/article/gigabyte-radeon-hd-7870-o... <----- review w/benchmarks of that Gigabyte 7870

or...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $349.99
ASUS HD7870-DC2-2GD5 Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/HD_7870_Direct_... <----- review w/benchmarks of that Asus 7870


http://www.amazon.com/ML228H-22-Inch-Ultra-Slim-Widescr... $149.00 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Asus ML228H 21.5" 1920X1080 2ms Full HD LED BackLight LED Monitor Slim Design 250 cd/m2 10,000,000 :1 (ASCR)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... <----- that same monitor @ newegg

For a case that's just a bit larger than that 300R look at this case down below.

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Carbide-Series-Gaming-Com... $99.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Corsair Carbide Series 400R Mid Tower Gaming Computer Case - CC-9011011-WW

http://www.corsair.com/pc-cases/carbide-series-pc-case/... <----- another look at that 400R
m
0
l
April 30, 2012 3:10:06 AM

He wanted a small case.
m
0
l
April 30, 2012 3:20:25 AM

ddan49 said:
He wanted a small case.

+1 for the heads up. I edited that post with a 300R. Any smaller than that and he's going to be screwed for a dual card set up.
m
0
l
April 30, 2012 3:23:31 AM

That's what I was thinking, but he kept putting micro atx...
m
0
l
!