Thanks jaguarskx and larkspur. That did it for me. I was thinking about doing that but what put me off was how intel onboard video was able to fill the screen in bios. Wish I had done that right away, after clearing cmos I think I had some settings wrong or something so vista wasn't happy and couldn't detect the video card, and there was some weird resources conflicts. But I managed to fix all that and all is well! I just feel disappointed with myself for wasting all this time when I could have just installed the drivers in the first place...live and learn I guess lol!