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April 30, 2012 3:56:03 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: June 01, 2012.

Budget Range: $2,000 to include a monitor.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming.

Parts Not Required: Keyboard and mouse.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Going through Amazon.com for $900(interest free card) and $1,100 optional.

Country: U.S.

Parts Preferences: Prefer Intel/Nvidia but this bias is about 12 years old, and not really based in any fact.

Overclocking: Yes, when looking at the 2500k (now open to suggestions with Ivy Bridge being released) I thought of going up to 4.8 or so.

SLI or Crossfire: Yes, however the second card will be purchased in the August/September time frame.

Monitor Resolution: 1920 x 1080 ( heard this is best for gaming, open to suggestions.

Additional Comments: Windows 7 PC, hoping for good cooling without having to worry about overheating after OCing.

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April 30, 2012 4:37:36 PM

That Ivy Bridge cpu down below linked to newegg will be on amazon for the same price in a week or so. Also anything past 4.4 - 4.5Ghz nets about zero to none in regards to more FPS with a Sandy Bridge cpu and I'm sure it will be the same for Ivy Bridge. Anything past that is nothing more than bragging rights while throwing more volts at your cpu and shortening it's life span.

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Carbide-Series-Gaming-CC-... $114.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Corsair Carbide Series 500R Mid Tower Gaming Case CC-9011012-WW

http://www.corsair.com/pc-cases/carbide-series-pc-case/... <---- another look at that case

http://www.amazon.com/XFX-ATX-850-Power-Supply/dp/B0050... $122.75 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
XFX PRO850W XXX Edition Semi-Modular 80 Plus Silver Certified 850 Watt Active PFC Power Supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $404.98
Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX806237I53570K
ASRock Z77 Extreme6 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=Z77%20Extre... <----- another look at that board

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $69.99
Cooler Master TPC 812 RR-T812-24PK-R1 120mm Sleeve with Dual Vertical Vapor Chamber TPC 812 CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel 2011/1366/1155 and AMD FM1/AM3+

Add this fan down below to that CM cpu cooler up above for a "push - pull" effect to help bring cpu temps down even more.

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-BladeMaster-Silent-... $11.06 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
Cooler Master BladeMaster 120mm PWM High Air Flow Silent Case Fan R4-BMBS-20PK-R0

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $59.99 FREE SHIPPING
G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model F3-1866C9D-8GAB

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-AD-7280S-0B-Internal-Drive-B... $17.99 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
Sony AD-7280S-0B 24x SATA Internal DVD+/-RW Drive (Black)

http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-3-5-Inch-Intern... $99.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Seagate Barracuda 7200 1 TB 7200RPM SATA 6 Gb/s NCQ 64MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive ST1000DM003

http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-SSDNow-120GB-Solid-KW-S2... $129.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Kingston SSDNow V+200 120GB SATA III 6Gb/s 2.5 Inch Solid State Drive KW-S2120-4B

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $524.99
GIGABYTE GV-N680OC-2GD GeForce GTX 680 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Premium-64bit-System-Buil... $99.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit (Full) System Builder DVD 1 Pack

Total: $1,656.62


http://www.amazon.com/ML228H-22-Inch-Ultra-Slim-Widescr... $149.00 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Asus ML228H 21.5" 1920X1080 2ms Full HD LED BackLight LED Monitor Slim Design 250 cd/m2 10,000,000 :1 (ASCR)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... <----- that same monitor @ newegg
April 30, 2012 4:59:13 PM

That build looks awesome, and it came in quite a bit under budget which is a huge plus. With all of these items working together I know I'll be able to play D3 on max settings with no hicups but do you have estimates on more intensive games? Skyrim, BF3 and games of that nature. Second question is if/when I drop the second 680 in the rig will the PSU be enough and will there be any further cooling requirements? Is the second 680 even worth getting, will the performance upgrade be that noticeable to justify an extra $550? The last computer I built was in '07 and I've been on a Vaio laptop for a while so I'm really out of the loop. I just want this to not need any significant. upgrades for about 2 years or so.
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April 30, 2012 5:22:24 PM

marshall vick said:
That build looks awesome, and it came in quite a bit under budget which is a huge plus. With all of these items working together I know I'll be able to play D3 on max settings with no hicups but do you have estimates on more intensive games? Skyrim, BF3 and games of that nature. Second question is if/when I drop the second 680 in the rig will the PSU be enough and will there be any further cooling requirements? Is the second 680 even worth getting, will the performance upgrade be that noticeable to justify an extra $550? The last computer I built was in '07 and I've been on a Vaio laptop for a while so I'm really out of the loop. I just want this to not need any significant. upgrades for about 2 years or so.

That psu is more than enough. Two gtx 680's...oh god that's a lot of fire power. You might want to seriously consider a 120Hz monitor then for a higher ceiling on your refresh rate. Dual 680's...lol. Ya your going to get a sh*t load of FPS.

That's a 120Hz monitor down below. There's others like the BenQ 2410T also. The Samsungs and the BenQ are the only ones that I know of that 120Hz and LED back lit. The BenQ might be less expensive so you might want to check that out also.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $399.99
SAMSUNG S23A700D Black 23" 2ms HDMI Widescreen 120Hz 3D Capable LED-Backlit LCD Monitor 250 cd/m2 1000:1
April 30, 2012 6:27:48 PM

You talk about the 2 x 680 as overkill. Will it be bottlenecked by the CPU, or even necessary? I don't want to spend the extra $550 and have it either bottleneck or not translate into $550 worth of performance.
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April 30, 2012 6:29:58 PM

Look at this review of the BenQ XL2420T.
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/benq_xl2420t.htm

It has barely any overshoot or motion blur. However, the Samsung 2233RZ is a better choice when it comes to that as there is next to no overshoot or motion blur. The input lag is very low at 13ms, which is not noticeable at all to the human eye.
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April 30, 2012 6:47:47 PM

marshall vick said:
You talk about the 2 x 680 as overkill. Will it be bottlenecked by the CPU, or even necessary? I don't want to spend the extra $550 and have it either bottleneck or not translate into $550 worth of performance.

No bottleneck and your not going to find a cpu that has more go for gaming than that 3570K. Hey man it's a gaming rig. I mean not everyone can afford dual 680's, but if you can do it then why not? I say for go for it. I mean how fast is too fast? If you can afford to drive a Ferrari then why drive a mini van? And you definitely have a Ferrari with that build.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/z77-extreme6-z77a-g... <----- btw that Asrock Z77 extreme6 I posted in that build is in today's review here on Toms.
April 30, 2012 7:52:29 PM

Alright I can definitely afford to do it a month or so after June 1st, I just see people who do 680 in SLI and their rigs total out to 3500 and up. I'm wondering what parts I'm not getting that they are. To use your anology I don't want to buy a Ferarri and then drop a Carolla engine in it and expect it work properly.
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April 30, 2012 7:59:36 PM

marshall vick said:
Alright I can definitely afford to do it a month or so after June 1st, I just see people who do 680 in SLI and their rigs total out to 3500 and up. I'm wondering what parts I'm not getting that they are. To use your anology I don't want to buy a Ferarri and then drop a Carolla engine in it and expect it work properly.

That's because they most likely "shopped stupid". Notice how I used newegg and amazon? It's all about price and free shipping for the most part. I see guys on here get $250+ cases and then hose themselves on the gpu. It happens all the time on here, but not as nearly as bad as the guru3d site. That's why I link extra info on components like the motherboard and case. Or even that psu I linked. It's $160+ on newegg + shipping. It's manufactured by Seasonic like all the mid and upper tier Corsair psu's, yet people see the name "Corsair" and they spend an extra $50+ on the same psu even though Corsair has never actually manufactured a psu in it's entire history. They have others do it for them. Same with that board I linked. You will see peeps on here go for a $240 Asus Z77 pro even though other than built in wi-fi, the Asrock board actually has more features.

Balance. You always want a balanced build with the budget. Quality components yet not too heavy a price on any one component so you don't end up screwing yourself somewhere else in the build.
April 30, 2012 8:15:57 PM

Why_Me said:
That's because they most likely "shopped stupid". Notice how I used newegg and amazon? It's all about price and free shipping for the most part. I see guys on here get $250+ cases and then hose themselves on the gpu. It happens all the time on here, but not as nearly as bad as the guru3d site. That's why I link extra info on components like the motherboard and case. Or even that psu I linked. It's $160+ on newegg + shipping. It's manufactured by Seasonic like all the mid and upper tier Corsair psu's, yet people see the name "Corsair" and they spend an extra $50+ on the same psu even though Corsair has never actually manufactured a psu in it's entire history. They have others do it for them. Same with that board I linked. You will see peeps on here go for a $240 Asus Z77 pro even though other than built in wi-fi, the Asrock board actually has more features.

Balance. You always want a balanced build with the budget. Quality components yet not too heavy a price on any one component so you don't end up screwing yourself somewhere else in the build.


You've been extremely helpful, I'm going to get off of work and do a little of my own research into each of the parts but this has been the most detailed response I've received on any site. Already looking at the parts it has a good feel to it and seems like a quality PC, I'm just going to get down into the reviews of each part.

One more thing, a lot of people recommend the H60 "liquid cooling" in push/pull however you recommend straight fans. From how much you seem to know I'm tempted to go with it, but I'm just curious why that's your recommendation aside from preferance.
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April 30, 2012 8:46:20 PM

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=... <----- review on that XFX (Seasonic OEM) psu I linked.

http://www.corsair.com/pc-cases/carbide-series-pc-case/... <---- Click "Reviews" on the left side when you go to that link and there's like 5 pages of professional reviews on that case with links to each review.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/z77-extreme6-z77a-g... <----- That Asrock motherboard included in that review. Notice: over clocking, temps, and power consumption on there.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-680-... <----- review w/benchmarks of that Gigabyte gtx 680 I posted.

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1874/ <----- review of that Kingston 120GB SSD I posted in that build.

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten... <----- review of that CM Hyper 612 cpu h/s I posted. Add that fan to it (it's in that build) and it brings those temps down even more. That test was done with a single fan.

Now this CM cpu h/s down below is completely new to the market as in it just came out and I should have included it in that build. It runs right on par with the Corsair H100 (and that's with a single fan). That fan I have linked in that build (CM Blade Master 120) works for this cpu cooler also in a "push - pull" effect. It clips right onto the other side of that cpu h/s.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $69.99
Cooler Master TPC 812 RR-T812-24PK-R1 120mm Sleeve with Dual Vertical Vapor Chamber TPC 812 CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel 2011/1366/1155 and AMD FM1/AM3+

http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=265... <----- that's a review on that h/s.
April 30, 2012 8:59:22 PM

With dual 680's you could do Nvidia surround (3 monitors) and get good fps with top settings. That could explain where some people are getting the higher priced builds.
May 1, 2012 12:22:31 AM

Thanks a lot for all of the replies. I'm going to go ahead and press checkout on June 1st when my check deposits, however if anyone else has any alternates to this build I'd appreciate them to compare and contrast.
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May 1, 2012 12:26:46 AM

marshall vick said:
Thanks a lot for all of the replies. I'm going to go ahead and press checkout on June 1st when my check deposits, however if anyone else has any alternates to this build I'd appreciate them to compare and contrast.

You probably want to switch out that cpu cooler I posted in that build with the one in my last post up above at the bottom of that post for 69.99. It's the one that runs dead even with the Corsair H100.
May 1, 2012 12:33:37 AM

Why_Me said:
You probably want to switch out that cpu cooler I posted in that build with the one in my last post up above at the bottom of that post for 69.99. It's the one that runs dead even with the Corsair H100.


I'll definitely do that, and I'll probably bump this thread about May 30th to get some last minute feedback before I pull the trigger on this build. Just in case anything worthwhile has come out, or the community decides Ivy Bridge should be avoided like the plague.
May 1, 2012 2:09:01 AM

I hate to double post especially with how helpful Why_Me has been, however I want a couple other opinions before I spend this money. I've been doing a little research and everything points to the 680 being more than enough (and Why_Me has said nothing different), but would running two lower tier cards in SLI be a better bet? I know a lot can change with me having a month before my purchase date, but Why_Me's build has been the cheapest, most powerful build I've seen and would hate for any of his parts to be sub-par, even though reviews say they're all up to standards.

I guess what I want is confirmation from multiple gamers having first hand experience on the quality of the products before I purchase on the first. I'll be mainly playing D3 and WoW, but the option to move from 360 BF3 to PC BF3 would be nice if I could run the game @ max.
May 1, 2012 3:24:17 AM

Here's a few monitor's to look at, with a few price ranges. Currently I have a 24", up from a 22". Eventually a 27" is in the works, it's hard to believe what the size difference does for the game.
27"
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
24"
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
23"
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I upgraded my system in dec and decided to try the h60 with an additional fan for cpu cooler. Got it on good sale. On a 2500k oc'd to 4.3ghz under full load it hits about 53 C max, 28 C is usual temp. I would say it is worth it, may not be much cooler but definitely quieter and the block is much smaller so there is more room in the case and it looks better. If you are gonna put $100 into cooler the h100 would be worth it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
May 2, 2012 3:10:27 PM

Thanks for all of the replies. I've just ordered the 24 inch monitor. One question, with the h100 will it fit in the carbide 500R? The dimensions look right, I just want an opinion from someone more knowledgeable.
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May 2, 2012 3:12:57 PM

marshall vick said:
Thanks for all of the replies. I've just ordered the 24 inch monitor. One question, with the h100 will it fit in the carbide 500R? The dimensions look right, I just want an opinion from someone more knowledgeable.

Yep it will fit. Check your PM's.
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