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February 23, 2012 11:07:38 PM

I'm currently looking into upgrading my graphics card, what I am running now is a PNY Nvidia GeForce GT 240 (512MB). I would like to keep my budget to around $100, but I have been looking at a GeForce 550 Ti. This EVGA 550 Ti specifically: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Here's the specs on my system:

Motherboard: ASUS P67 Sabertooth
CPU: Intel Core i5 2500k 3.30GHz
RAM: 8Gb VisionTek DDR3 1600MHz (2x4Gb)
PSU: Ultra 450W LSP

Now, everywhere I looks says the recommended PSU wattage is 400W for the 550 Ti. Since I don't intend on overclocking, should I be able to run that card? I know its a bit of a squeeze, but I'd like to hold off buying a new PSU until I'm ready to do an SLI configuration (which may not be that far down the road).

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a b U Graphics card
February 23, 2012 11:24:11 PM

GTX 550 Ti is the absolute worst budget card ever. A Radeon 6790 will outperform it for the same price.
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February 24, 2012 1:45:14 AM

While I agree the 6790 is more powerful, I am limited on my PSU. If what I am finding is correct, a 6790 will require a 500W. As of this moment, I cant afford a new graphics card AND a high wattage PSU.

Why is the 550 Ti the absolute worst, if you don't mind me asking? It's just that the consensus of the reviews seem to agree that it's decent.
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a b U Graphics card
February 24, 2012 1:51:36 AM

GTX 550 Ti is overpriced, power hungry and some other stuff. And, a 6790 does not require a 500w PSU, a 6870 can run on a good 430w.
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a c 175 U Graphics card
February 24, 2012 2:34:55 AM

6790 I think will be fine on your PSU, If I'm not wrong 6790 consume less than 550 ti or at least the same :) .
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a c 181 U Graphics card
February 24, 2012 3:12:54 AM

^^ and your are right. I have two 550 Ti's and they are in SLI and OC'd and what eveybody is telling you is true. I made one big mistake on these cards I hope you don't make the same. The 6790 the way to go and good luck to ya.
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a b U Graphics card
February 24, 2012 6:29:25 AM

refillable said:
6790 I think will be fine on your PSU, If I'm not wrong 6790 consume less than 550 ti or at least the same :) .

Agreed.

The HD 6790 should be fine on that PSU. It delivers about 28A on the +12v rails, so it's adequate.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
About $115 after rebate.
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a b U Graphics card
February 24, 2012 6:44:06 AM

buy GTX 550 Ti OC is OK. :bounce: 
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a c 84 U Graphics card
February 24, 2012 6:52:54 AM

go a step ahead you can also use an hd 6850 it doesnt uses that much power and only needs 1 6pin pcie connector that you have already just dont overclock it to be safe or other will be hd 7770 which uses more less power then hd 6850 and gives same as the hd 6850 but just the matter is that its priced little bit high or the hd 6790 will be the better choice.:) 
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February 24, 2012 8:43:34 AM

Thank you for the steer in the right direction. I will definitely get the 6790 now, knowing it will work with my PSU.

One last question, and this is mainly for future reference. For when I can afford a crossfire setup, what wattage should I be looking for in a new PSU?
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February 24, 2012 8:56:36 AM

Imado said:
Thank you for the steer in the right direction. I will definitely get the 6790 now, knowing it will work with my PSU.

One last question, and this is mainly for future reference. For when I can afford a crossfire setup, what wattage should I be looking for in a new PSU?

If your worried about wattage get the 6850 they require a bit less power than a 6790 and any decent 500watt PSU will Crossfire them no problem but the noobs will say you need a 650watt min but they would be wrong being 6850 only takes 125watts max TDP
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a b U Graphics card
February 24, 2012 10:02:41 AM

Imado said:
Thank you for the steer in the right direction. I will definitely get the 6790 now, knowing it will work with my PSU.

One last question, and this is mainly for future reference. For when I can afford a crossfire setup, what wattage should I be looking for in a new PSU?

A good 550W or 600W PSU is god enough for crossfire.
For example the Corsair TX 650W PSU can handle even GTX 560Ti s in SLi.
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a c 84 U Graphics card
February 24, 2012 11:37:40 AM

Imado said:
Thank you for the steer in the right direction. I will definitely get the 6790 now, knowing it will work with my PSU.

One last question, and this is mainly for future reference. For when I can afford a crossfire setup, what wattage should I be looking for in a new PSU?


agood psu of 550w or 600w or more better but the minimum will be 550w with 2x6 pin pcie connector and it will be of good brand such as xfx ,antec,corsair,seasonic etc.:) 
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February 24, 2012 10:34:07 PM

sunnk said:
agood psu of 550w or 600w or more better but the minimum will be 550w with 2x6 pin pcie connector and it will be of good brand such as xfx ,antec,corsair,seasonic etc.:) 

500watts is enough
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February 25, 2012 4:07:14 AM

DM186 said:
^^+100%
You are right on the money Gman

well ops budget is only $100 therefore 6770 is the ticket = 1 x 2 6pin for Crossfire Muhahahhaahaha 500watts psu will suffice lol.
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a c 79 U Graphics card
February 25, 2012 4:08:47 AM

Boopoo said:
well ops budget is only $100 therefore 6770 is the ticket = 1 x 2 6pin for Crossfire Muhahahhaahaha 500watts psu will suffice lol.

then why were you recommending radeon hd 6850?
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February 25, 2012 4:34:10 AM

de5_Roy said:
then why were you recommending radeon hd 6850?

Um cause 6850 is a very good mid range card and the 6770, 6790, and 550ti are to close in price to the 6850 to recommend any of them over the 6850 that's why I recommend the Radeon HD 6850.
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a c 181 U Graphics card
February 25, 2012 4:47:31 AM

Boopoo said:
Um cause 6850 is a very good mid range card and the 6770, 6790, and 550ti are to close in price to the 6850 to recommend any of them over the 6850 that's why I recommend the Radeon HD 6850.


OOPs OP said 100 that is more than 100 oops :non: 
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February 25, 2012 4:49:29 AM

DM186 said:
OOPs OP said 100 that is more than 100 oops :non: 

6790 and 550ti are all over $100 asshole.
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a b U Graphics card
February 25, 2012 6:14:11 AM

Boopoo said:
6790 and 550ti are all over $100 asshole.

No need for calling names...

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a c 84 U Graphics card
February 25, 2012 6:22:52 AM

Boopoo said:
500watts is enough


who tells that to you

A second card requires ~130 Watts he need a 650 Watt power supply unit and for minimum 550w good branded psu 500w wouldnt be good.

according to guru 3d this.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-6850-6870-cross...
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February 25, 2012 6:39:02 AM

sunnk said:
+1

6850 CF = 250watts max TDP

2500K = 95watts max TDP

= 160watts overhead on a 500watt PSU to run Mobo, Ram, HDD
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a c 84 U Graphics card
February 25, 2012 6:41:21 AM

Boopoo said:
6850 CF = 250watts max TDP

2500K = 95watts max TDP

= 160watts overhead on a 500watt PSU to run Mobo, Ram, HDD


:sleep:  blah blah blah again i m saying that 550w minimum 600w perfect. :D 


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a b U Graphics card
February 25, 2012 6:42:46 AM

Just to give a little headroom, 550W or 600W. Shouldn't cost too much either.
Now can we just please move on..
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a c 84 U Graphics card
February 25, 2012 6:43:21 AM

Boopoo said:
6850 CF = 250watts max TDP

2500K = 95watts max TDP

= 160watts overhead on a 500watt PSU to run Mobo, Ram, HDD


stop argument :non:  tell op what you wanna say not to us we know what we are telling and saying about ok.
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February 25, 2012 7:23:23 AM

sunnk said:
stop argument :non:  tell op what you wanna say not to us we know what we are telling and saying about ok.

I already told OP the best options he had then people like you start in on me just cause I am 100% correct.
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a c 84 U Graphics card
February 25, 2012 7:30:17 AM

Boopoo said:
I already told OP the best options he had then people like you start in on me just cause I am 100% correct.


cant stop laughing :lol: 





who is correct that seems you reply in every ones answer if u r correct so keep ur knowledge with you. :kaola: 


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a c 175 U Graphics card
February 25, 2012 1:27:07 PM

Very funny and entertaining!
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a c 181 U Graphics card
February 25, 2012 7:59:18 PM

I think there is more poo in his boo. Is this guy for real? He attacts eveybody on here and I got the name ahole. So I guess I am the bad one. You do have to admit this is very entertaining and funny.

I feel for you OP to hear and see this kinda stuff going on in your thread. I am sorry for getting side tracked. We should be 100% focusing on your problem and not playing school yard antics.
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February 25, 2012 11:12:01 PM

DM186 said:
I think there is more poo in his boo. Is this guy for real? He attacts eveybody on here and I got the name ahole. So I guess I am the bad one. You do have to admit this is very entertaining and funny.

I feel for you OP to hear and see this kinda stuff going on in your thread. I am sorry for getting side tracked. We should be 100% focusing on your problem and not playing school yard antics.

You attacked first friend and on this thread I attacked no one they attacked me.
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a c 181 U Graphics card
February 26, 2012 12:19:16 AM


Quote:
DM186 wrote :

^^+100%
You are right on the money Gman

Boopoo said:
well ops budget is only $100 therefore 6770 is the ticket = 1 x 2 6pin for Crossfire Muhahahhaahaha 500watts psu will suffice lol.


You say we drew first blood. Hey kid this is where you attack me and all I was doing was agreeing with Gman. Then you quoted my handle and you can see in your own words.

Quote:
Boopoo wrote :

Um cause 6850 is a very good mid range card and the 6770, 6790, and 550ti are to close in price to the 6850 to recommend any of them over the 6850 that's why I recommend the Radeon HD 6850.


Then you trun right around and say 6850.

Quote:
de5_roy wrote :

then why were you recommending radeon hd 6850?


Then de5 roy asked you why you said a 6850 after you making a big deal about me agreeing with Gman.

Quote:
DM186 wrote : OOPs OP said 100 that is more than 100 oops :non: 


For you to challenge me over nothing for agreeing with Gman I thought you were being funny. I then in the sprit of having fun I did the oops thing.

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Boopoo wrote :
6790 and 550ti are all over $100 asshole.


Then you truned right around and called me an ahole. So again how did we attack you? We did not draw first blood. you had to challenge us at every turn.

It wasn't ugly untill you jump in and started sturring the pot. Have I made my self clear enough so we don't have continue on the OP's thread? So lets move on agreed?
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February 26, 2012 12:35:21 AM

DM186 said:
Quote:
DM186 wrote :

^^+100%
You are right on the money Gman



You say we drew first blood. Hey kid this is where you attack me and all I was doing was agreeing with Gman. Then you quoted my handle and you can see in your own words.

Quote:
Boopoo wrote :

Um cause 6850 is a very good mid range card and the 6770, 6790, and 550ti are to close in price to the 6850 to recommend any of them over the 6850 that's why I recommend the Radeon HD 6850.


Then you trun right around and say 6850.

Quote:
de5_roy wrote :

then why were you recommending radeon hd 6850?


Then de5 roy asked you why you said a 6850 after you making a big deal about me agreeing with Gman.

Quote:
DM186 wrote : OOPs OP said 100 that is more than 100 oops :non: 


For you to challenge me over nothing for agreeing with Gman I thought you were being funny. I then in the sprit of having fun I did the oops thing.

Quote:
Boopoo wrote :
6790 and 550ti are all over $100 asshole.


Then you truned right around and called me an ahole. So again how did we attack you? We did not draw first blood. you had to challenge us at every turn.

It wasn't ugly untill you jump in and started sturring the pot. Have I made my self clear enough so we don't have continue on the OP's thread? So lets move on agreed?

Well then let us simmer down on the Ad Hominem attacks please ;-) PS I miss interpreted your $100 comment my bad.
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February 29, 2012 2:27:06 AM

DM186 said:

I feel for you OP to hear and see this kinda stuff going on in your thread. I am sorry for getting side tracked. We should be 100% focusing on your problem and not playing school yard antics.



To be honest, don't be sorry. I been on enough forums to know that misunderstandings happen all the time. I haven't been able to check this for a few days, and in that regard I am sorry. I can see points where if I would have provided a response, issues could have been avoided.

Now, as long as we are back on track, I would like to clarify a few things.

My budget is flexible, I am more that willing to go higher than $100 if the cost is justified.

This is my first PC build, and there are of course aspects I do not fully "get" yet. So bear with me if I ask common knowledge questions.


Back to the topic of a new graphics card. I did some digging and I think going with the 6850 is a great option, now that I understand the TDP wattage. I never knew about the TDP value until now, I always based my choice on the "minimum recommended" wattage on the specs. Also, I don't intend on running any benchmarks OR doing any overclocking, so it should't be pushed beyond the TDP (if I understand it correctly).

In regards to the crossfire PSU wattage. To be honest, I would feel more comfortable with a 600W over a 500W. I don't doubt what you are saying Boopoo and I agree that 500W would be enough, I'd just like more headroom just to be on the safe side. And a 600W really isn't much more expensive.
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a c 181 U Graphics card
February 29, 2012 2:54:04 AM

Going back to the begining. I don't think anybody ask what you are doing. Example Gaming lite or heavy. Photo's etc? That would help narrow it down because if you are not into gaming hard.

Then the 550's would work as they are working for me and what type of gaming I do. But if you are into heavy and hard core gaming then that is a different story.

If you want a good card that is not hard on the budget and be able to play most all the new games on high then I would suggest the HD 6870. I like Nvidia over AMD but AMD makes a better low end card and price.

The 6870 is a little bit more than the 6850 which I will link both of them to you and I will show how to compair both of them as well. And thank you for your under standing on what took place. I do want to wish you good luck on your up grade.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/290?vs=291
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February 29, 2012 10:36:07 PM

I do plan on some serous gaming, such as Battlefield 3 and Skyrim. I will also be editing some video, but this mainly a gaming machine.

Really the only reason I set my eyes on the 550 ti was the fact it said 400W for power requirement. Knowing what I know now, I will probably get the 6870. It is quite a bit more powerful than the 6850 and doesn't cost that much more.

Thanks for all the help. I'm glad I made the choice to post on here rather than just wing it on my own.
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a c 181 U Graphics card
February 29, 2012 10:49:09 PM

Imado said:
I do plan on some serous gaming, such as Battlefield 3 and Skyrim. I will also be editing some video, but this mainly a gaming machine.

Really the only reason I set my eyes on the 550 ti was the fact it said 400W for power requirement. Knowing what I know now, I will probably get the 6870. It is quite a bit more powerful than the 6850 and doesn't cost that much more.

Thanks for all the help. I'm glad I made the choice to post on here rather than just wing it on my own.


I am glad that we all were able to help you and I want to wish you the best on your upgrade and good luck.
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March 1, 2012 1:22:14 AM

Best answer selected by Imado.
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March 18, 2012 8:11:56 PM

Bringing this thread out of the depths, I figured I'd give an update.

I have had the Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 for about a week now, its running like a charm. Handles Battlefield 3 like a champ, I can finally retire console gaming. A bit more cable management, and my build is picture worthy.

Thank you again for the advice!
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a c 181 U Graphics card
March 18, 2012 10:41:26 PM

You are most welcome. Pat yourself on the back for a good job. Hats off to yeah. And have fun gaming.
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March 19, 2012 6:53:31 PM

As good as this PC is running, I may have discovered a slight issue.

It seems my CPU might be running a bit hot with the stock cooler. I noticed after a few hours of Battlefield 3, my CPU core temps were ~65-70C (checked with both HWMonitor and SpeedFan). Right now the idle temps are ~45-50C (see screenshot)



I did clean off the pre-applied compound on the heatsink and use the last of my Arctic Silver Ceramique when I first installed it, now I think I probably should have left it alone. That truly was the last of what I had, so I unfortunately cannot re-apply.

Should gaming for extended periods of time be relatively safe with temps like that, or should I hold back until an aftermarket cooler is installed?
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a c 181 U Graphics card
March 19, 2012 11:34:52 PM

Sorry to hear that but I don't think you CPU has bad temps yes a little high but nothing to worry about. If you have to play, monitor your temps and if they get so high then stop gaming.

Then when you can get another cooler then do so. Just monintor it. You should be able to game and watch your temps at the same time or at least I can with MSI Afterburner. Good luck to you
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