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May 1, 2012 5:04:11 AM

Hey guys, this is my first time trying to build my own gaming rig.

I'm not exactly a techie, though I do consider myself a hardcore gamer. My last PC just died, it was an Acer PC, specs were:
Intel® Core™ i3-2120 processor (3.30GHz, 1333MHz, 3MB L3 cache)
NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 520 Graphics Card (1GB Dedicated RAM)
4GB RAM (max is 8GB if I'm not mistaken)
500GB HDD
DVD-Super Multi Double-Layer Drive
Multi-in-1 card reader
Wireless 802.11b/g/n
Wireless keyboard & mouse
20” Monitor with LED Technology .

I could play most games on high (eg Skyrim, Far Cry 2 etc), but not Very or Ultra.

What I'm now looking for now are parts that will allow for easy upgradeability, and is relatively cheap.

So basically, my budget is gonna be around $400-$600 not including OS, and HDD(I'll be taking an SSD but games are on external HDD). My friend has suggested I take a look at his set up, which is:

APEX TX-381-C Black Steel Micro ATX Tower Computer Case
Motherboard: BIOSTAR A780L3B AM3 AMD 760G Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
Optical Drive: ASUS 24X DVD Burner
Power Supply (PSU): APEX AL-D500EXP 500W ATX12V Power Supply
Processor: AMD Athlon II X3 455 Rana 3.3GHz Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Desktop Processor
RAM: Patriot Signature 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 1333 Desktop Memory
Video Card: SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6570 1GB DDR3 PCI Express 2.1 x16 Video Card.

After doing my own research, I've another 2 builds in mind, :

Case: Corsair Carbide 400R
Mobo: ASUS M5A78L-M LX AM3+ Socket
GPU: Sapphire Radeon HD 6850 1GB GDDR5
PSU: Corsair CX500 V2 80+ Certified
CPU: AMD FX Zambezi 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) Quad Core
RAM: 8GB DDR3 G.Skil Ripjaws Series
AND

CPU+MB: i3 2120/i5-2320 + Asrock H61M-U3S3
GPU: Sapphire HD 6850
RAM: G.skill 1333mhz 4gb ram x2
ODD: Sony/LG 24x dvdrw Sata
Casing+PSU: Xigmatek Asgard XP + FSP HExa 500w.

I'm currently leaning towards the last build, since it fits my budget AND needs the most.

All help and advice will be GREATLY appreciated :) 

EDIT:

Approximate Purchase Date: Within the next 2 months (I still have my work laptop)

Budget Range: USD$400-600

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Surfing internet,

Parts Not Required: OS, Keyboard Mouse, Monitor

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: I'm not from America, don't think newegg and amzon ship much here (Singapore)

Country: Singapore

Parts Preferences: Nope, as long as it floats my boat

Overclocking: Maybe if it drastically improves performance

SLI or Crossfire: Son't really care

Monitor Resolution: 1600x1200

Additional Comments: As long as it plays most games on high (not very or ultra, just high)



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May 1, 2012 5:21:04 AM

You should troubleshoot and figure out if your CPU and HD are still functional (maybe even ram but then again ram is cheap).
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May 1, 2012 5:21:05 AM

When I posted this there was an error message, saying my message could not be posted.. Sorry for double post. Reply to the any please, cause idk how to delete this thread. :) 
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May 1, 2012 5:23:24 AM

slomo4sho said:
You should troubleshoot and figure out if your CPU/GPU and HD are still functional (maybe even ram but then again ram is cheap).


hey man I've tried that, HDD's totally gone, my cpu is barely working, i"ve brought it to my local PC store, they could use it at all..

Thanks anyway :) 
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May 1, 2012 5:25:44 AM

Your last build seems fine although I would downgrade to a i3 2100 and upgrade to 8gb of ram.
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May 1, 2012 5:28:19 AM

Thanks again for the quick reply man, umm I get the upgrade ram part but why downgrade to i3? Shouldn't i5 be better for gaming than i3? Sorry if i sound dumb by asking this question :) 
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May 2, 2012 2:16:45 AM

kdBz said:
Thanks again for the quick reply man, umm I get the upgrade ram part but why downgrade to i3? Shouldn't i5 be better for gaming than i3? Sorry if i sound dumb by asking this question :) 
You should spend more time troubleshooting your old build. But I don't agree with the downgrade to i3 and upgrade to 8GB comment. If it's in your budget, get the i5 (although the same is true for 8GB).
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May 2, 2012 3:52:24 PM

I was referring to downgrading from the i3 2120. The i5 is a good option down the line but unrealistic with a $600 budget without sacrificing elsewhere.
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May 3, 2012 1:52:14 AM

slomo4sho said:
I was referring to downgrading from the i3 2120. The i5 is a good option down the line but unrealistic with a $600 budget without sacrificing elsewhere.
Good points.

Sorry, OP, I haven't put much time into looking at your build. So from what I gather, you will reuse

RAM: 4GB RAM (max is 8GB if I'm not mistaken)
DVD: DVD-Super Multi Double-Layer Drive
Case: I assume micro ATX only?

So you need:

CPU, Mobo, HDD, PSU, & GPU for $400 to $600?

That's a big (50%) range. So do you want to go closer to $400 or $600? Or do you just want to land in there somewhere and make sure each part is a good deal?

You should spend a bit more time investigating your old CPU, mobo, & HDD to see what's still working. At your price point, you can get huge savings buying used parts. It'll be very important to figure out a way to work a used HDD into your build. I mean, I could mail you a 160GB HDD for $5, I guess. It's crap, but it's better you focus on graphics and CPU at your price point.

Do you have a Micro Center nearby? If so, you should get an AM3+ mobo w/ Phenom II x6 960T for $105 or so. If you have a MC, then check these bundles and we'll discuss which is the best deal: http://www.microcenter.com/specials/promotions/AMDbundl...

I'm thinking, Option 1:

CPU: $110 i3-2100
Mobo: $60 H61 mobo
HDD: Reuse something/buy used $30 or less
PSU: $16 Corsair CX430 or $35 Antec Neo Eco 620C (when on sale)
GPU: $220 7850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

TOTAL: $436

I'd actually up the CPU to an i5-2500K (+$100) or similar and Z68 (like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ) (+$50). Then you could add a $35 Thermaltake V3 or similar case down the line anytime when you decide to overclock and need better cooling.


Option 2 (Micro Center):

CPU: $140 Phenom II x6 960T w/ mobo bundle (up to $160 bundle still viable)
Mobo: Included Above
HDD: $30
PSU: $35 Antec Neo Eco 620C
GPU $220 7850
Case: $35 Thermaltake V3 (required for ATX mobo)

TOTAL: $460

There are other options out there. The viability of any path is dependent upon your interest in pursuing great deals (which is VERY important to your performance at your price point).

Note that the Antec Neo Eco 620C w/ Crossfire X compatible motherboard can easily drive a dual 7850 system ("future-proof").
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