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Hd 7970 is the best choice?

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May 1, 2012 1:57:06 PM

hello guys... im building a rig...
i dont know what gpu to choose...

Ive been reading about stuttering problems with the ngtx 680..
i wonder if 7970 would be any better.. any1 know any issues with that card?



some even say that the 7970 is about as good as 680 when both are oc'ed



in my rig im going for

psu: ocz zx 1250
Mobo: asus maximus v gene
ddr3: 1600mhz cl7
Cpu: i5 3750k
gpu: 680 or 7970

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May 1, 2012 3:24:57 PM

I have the 7970 and love it. A friend of mine has the same system with the exception of the GPU he always uses Nvidia and got the GTX 680 and does have stuttering problems in some games. So far I have had no problems with my 7970 nor did I have any problems with the 6950 before that. For me a few frames a second faster means nothing if the game is not going to play smooth. And in the games we have benchmarked together they were all very close within 5 to 10 frames a second but with the micro stutter on the GTX 680 some of them for me would have been unplayable.
May 1, 2012 3:44:34 PM

I would still go 680 myself but as you cant get one right now 7970 will be awsome as well... But for 50 bucks more you can have the best (for now anyway)

Thent
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May 1, 2012 5:39:07 PM

kondicykel said:
hello guys... im building a rig...
i dont know what gpu to choose...

Ive been reading about stuttering problems with the ngtx 680..
i wonder if 7970 would be any better.. any1 know any issues with that card?



some even say that the 7970 is about as good as 680 when both are oc'ed



in my rig im going for

psu: ocz zx 1250
Mobo: asus maximus v gene
ddr3: 1600mhz cl7
Cpu: i5 3750k
gpu: 680 or 7970


for me,680>7970.
anyways,why 1250w???850w is more then enough for 7970 CF+overclocking or 680 SLi+overclocking.
that board is m-atx.go with a atx board.
8gb ddr3 1600mhz 1.5v will do fine.crucial has least failure rates.

May 1, 2012 5:44:24 PM

i can get one here in denmark.. there is pretty many in stock cuzz it cost so much here hehe...

my "claim" is based on this thread on nvidia forum
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=226227&st=...

the reviews/benches u are looking at doesnt use v-sync.. and stutter only apears when using v-sync :) 
Havent found one yet where they test with the v-sync on...



tenty its not the best?? not with all this stutter? havent experienced it my self but im afraid of it xD
May 1, 2012 5:52:41 PM

yeah i know it would be plenty with the 850.. but i did take the 1250 cuzz it wasnt that much more expensive and then i got for future upgrades.. :)  and then im going to be around the 50% ussage that will give me an advantage in power efficiency.

whats wrong with m-atx? never got problems with em..
it got 2 pci-e slots which is fine for now...
May 1, 2012 5:54:51 PM

thently said:
I would still go 680 myself but as you cant get one right now 7970 will be awsome as well... But for 50 bucks more you can have the best (for now anyway)

Thent

AMD dropped the prices.
May 1, 2012 6:04:51 PM

In my experience, debating about top-end cards is kind of silly. They'll both be awesome, and the market will more or less take care of pricing to reflect what people think about them (so right now the 680 is a little higher because people like it a little better). The mid-range and lower-end cards present much more in the way of decision about value, performance/watt, etc.

Anyway, bottom line, they're both good, and you seem to have done your homework. If the possibility of stuttering bothers you, go 7970 and don't look back. Just make sure to OC it.
May 1, 2012 6:10:05 PM

kondicykel said:
yeah i know it would be plenty with the 850.. but i did take the 1250 cuzz it wasnt that much more expensive and then i got for future upgrades.. :)  and then im going to be around the 50% ussage that will give me an advantage in power efficiency.

whats wrong with m-atx? never got problems with em..
it got 2 pci-e slots which is fine for now...


i am not a big fan OCZ,their SSDs suck!most of the power supplies are also not a good option(mod extreme especially).1250w for a cheap price,i smell fish :heink: 
if you want bragging rights then go with seasonic 1kw gold or platinum psu.
if you are comfortable with a m-atx then go ahead.
May 1, 2012 6:38:28 PM

hellfire24 said:
i am not a big fan OCZ,their SSDs suck!most of the power supplies are also not a good option(mod extreme especially).1250w for a cheap price,i smell fish :heink: 
if you want bragging rights then go with seasonic 1kw gold or platinum psu.
if you are comfortable with a m-atx then go ahead.




well... the ocz zx got a pretty stable 12v rail. it got 90% power efficiency and also got gold certificate. i got it cheap cuzz it was on sale. i dont smell any fishy here xD


i have never got any ocz products before.. so i dont know anything about the reliability and endurance... but the stats and reviews is all fine i think..
May 1, 2012 7:03:04 PM

every manufacturer advertises their product as the best but only a few are best in real life.zx series is OCZ's better performance series,still i would recommend getting a reasonably priced 850w.
May 1, 2012 7:08:40 PM

fact is the 680 isnt out. paper launches dont mean anything when u cant actually buy the gpu.

so yes, the 7970 is currently the best available card, no argument
May 1, 2012 8:04:59 PM

i didnt only read what the manufactor did write about it.
i could'nt see any reason to give more money for it.. there aint rly any perfomance difference? unless u are extreme overclocker ?


680 release was the 29. april. they are just sold out. thats why u cant get em.. but i can :p 


Back to the original qustion xD

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i wonder if 7970 would be any better.. any1 know any issues with that card?
May 1, 2012 9:39:28 PM

paper launches dont count as out imo
May 2, 2012 1:09:50 AM

readily available? never heard of that site. until its somewhere i can suggest the card to someone, and they can buy it... its not really available to most
May 2, 2012 1:22:48 AM

even still, huge shortages, if NA used that site and ordered up their gtx680, ud quickly find they dont have any either. 478 pounds? ouch. i simply wouldnt suggest the card at that price
May 2, 2012 1:27:25 AM

nah, ive seen the 7970 for 450 american. much much cheaper. also, available
May 2, 2012 1:31:03 AM

the gtx 680 isnt worth 700 american when a 7970 can be found for 450.

really, its nice for you brits that its available, but its not available in the north american market
May 2, 2012 1:32:56 AM

if they only released the gtx 680 in japan for 1000 dollars, would u call it a real launch? or just a big show to sound like a launch?
May 2, 2012 1:42:11 AM

yep, and 700 bucks is overpriced by 200 bucks, which makes it completely unsuggestable
May 2, 2012 1:44:47 AM

ok, the gtx 680 is 2000 dollars, and only available in japan. its released! (no not really)
May 2, 2012 1:46:34 AM

my point is, that until its readily available for a competitive price its launch is a bit of a joke. select markets, in limited amounts, for 200 dollars more than its worth... is a joke. its not a launch. its not what i would call available.

the fact that people buy into nvidias garbage paper launches, and start suggesting the 680 on specs alone... well, what tree did YOU fall out of to buy into that?
May 2, 2012 1:50:00 AM

and those shops dont have it.

how is this to understand, it isnt available at most places. youve shown me one, where its 200 dollars more than its supposed to be, not even including what it would cost to have it shipped here. thats a joke
May 2, 2012 2:06:26 AM

neon, u's bein' dense. They live in a different country than the US. Over there, both cards are more expensive by conversion rate. It's irrelevant what the US prices and availability are to them.

The gtx 680 stuttering issue is new to me. Probably a problem with their adaptive v-sync algorithm. I agree with the above posters who have said it probably doesn't matter either way, though. You could get the gtx 680 and trust that nvidia will release a new driver that corrects this problem or you could wait for them to do so (within a certain time frame) and then make a decision if the gtx 680's extra performance matters to you.
May 2, 2012 2:09:52 AM

select markets do not equal widely available, u cant suggest that card to people in north america. its nice for a select few, but it doesnt do anything for us over here.

im not being dense, this launch IS a joke
May 2, 2012 2:20:17 AM

how would you know captain nvidia. amds drivers work fine for me
May 2, 2012 2:28:32 AM

i own both as well, both work fine. infact, if i want to compare my last nvidia card to my current amd card, the amd card overclocks like a champ while my nvidia card does not. truth is both companies have the complications with new drivers. you can find gtx 680 owners all over with odd problems, same with the 7000 series.
May 2, 2012 2:32:43 AM

im not a fanboy, i buy whatever i consider better at the time. went from a gtx 8800 to a gtx 285 to an amd 6950. if i were to buy a card right now, it would be a 7970 simply because the gtx 680 ISNT AVAILABLE HERE
May 2, 2012 2:36:53 AM

ok, you arent a fanboy, but i dont consider amd complaints about drivers to be valid (in comparison to nvidia.) ive seen nvidia with its fair share of driver problems
May 2, 2012 2:41:18 AM

you cant compare the 7000 series drivers to 480, the 480 is 2 generations old. my amd 6950 drivers work flawlessly.
May 2, 2012 2:48:10 AM

no, suggesting a card that isnt available to the person you are suggesting it to, unless they want to spend 200 dollars plus xtra shipping charges, is not the best idea.

my attitude about the gtx 680 launch is spot on. they really should only launch cards when they can actually supply them, not just hand out a few for the sake of appearing to be the best choice out there.
May 2, 2012 2:50:52 AM

i know its "launched" i just dont agree with using that term when theyre not actually available

back to the topic at hand, yes, if you are in north america the 7970 is the best choice
May 2, 2012 2:53:18 AM

ill be darned, they are available here (barely)... still overpriced though. at that price the 7970 is still the better choice (its 150 bucks cheaper.)
May 2, 2012 2:56:38 AM

i probably shoudl have chosen my words better, and been less agressive. we both pretty much think the same thing here.

miscommunication, probably my fault. had just woken up and my dreams had messed with me a bit. apologies.
May 2, 2012 2:57:17 AM

@recon,i sent you a PM.
May 2, 2012 2:01:47 PM

GTX 680 paper launch. How good is a card if I can't buy it?
May 2, 2012 9:23:25 PM

hahahaha xD wtf guys? my mail was filled with mails today cuzz of this xD didnt expect all this.... lol

so the 7970 is better card for buck ratio?:p 
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