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August 15, 2012 6:53:57 AM

I have these spec`s

MOBO:ASUS M5A97

CPU : Phenom II x2 555BE OPENED 4cores

memory : 8 gig`s corsair vengence

PSU: 500 WAT gamma

GPU: ATI SAPPHIRE 6950 2 GB GDDR5

Case: NZXT LEXA S

MONITOR : LCD SAMSUNG 23 HD 1920* 1080 GAMING

I think i had bottleneck as i got in BF3 38 fps to 55 as highest fps

what do i need to upgrade is it CPU or PSU or what cuz i am really sick of FPS dropping and heat issue

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August 15, 2012 7:06:59 AM

Comes down to your bottleneck is at the CPU, im asuming you have bad FPS in larger multiplayer maps?
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August 15, 2012 7:13:24 AM

yes Ur right in larger maps , putting the game aside ( what do u think i need to upgrade)>><<??
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August 15, 2012 7:20:33 AM

Your CPU, probably means your motherboard too if you want to do it properly. Your PSU is abit close to the limit but if you do not overclock it will be fine.

I would suggest an Intel I5 and a z77 motherboard.
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August 15, 2012 7:21:10 AM

the CPU its your bottleneck
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August 15, 2012 7:26:17 AM

Novuake said:
Your CPU, probably means your motherboard too if you want to do it properly. Your PSU is abit close to the limit but if you do not overclock it will be fine.

I would suggest an Intel I5 and a z77 motherboard.


but , i dont need to change all the system upside down , not budget issue( but seems its like first time using intel and i need to go for nvidia ) i have the real funds and not a big deal for me but do i have to go for X6 or Bulldozer or i have to switch to intel and nvidia>> ??
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August 15, 2012 7:28:02 AM

You dont need to change your GPU.

You can keep using your HD6950 with an intel CPU. I would say switch to Intel as they are better at this time.
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August 15, 2012 7:34:15 AM

Novuake said:
You dont need to change your GPU.

You can keep using your HD6950 with an intel CPU. I would say switch to Intel as they are better at this time.


then what u recommending me to buy ( I5 2500 K or somthing else)
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August 15, 2012 7:35:20 AM

Best answer selected by the elve.
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August 15, 2012 7:43:04 AM

Depends. Are you interested in overclocking?
If not rather just get an I5-3550.

http://www.gigabyte.co.za/products/comparison/list.aspx...

The above boards are pretty cool. Just so you can get an idea of the z77 boards. You may want to shop around for your preference(like front panel USB3 headers and stuff like that).
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August 15, 2012 7:45:11 AM

That card should only run around medium in BF3 and give decent FPS your CPU is not bottlenecking that card so swapping to Intel will show you almost NO gain. Your best off trying to OC the CPU a little and getting a better GPU.

If you want to see if the CPU is bottlenecking the card go play BF3 and at the same time watch CPU and GPU usage if the CPU is going flat out while the GPU is barely having to bother there is a bottleneck....... I'll bet that is not the case.
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August 15, 2012 7:51:49 AM

wr6133 said:
That card should only run around medium in BF3 and give decent FPS your CPU is not bottlenecking that card so swapping to Intel will show you almost NO gain. Your best off trying to OC the CPU a little and getting a better GPU.

If you want to see if the CPU is bottlenecking the card go play BF3 and at the same time watch CPU and GPU usage if the CPU is going flat out while the GPU is barely having to bother there is a bottleneck....... I'll bet that is not the case.


at the end of the day , i dont have to change anything at all ( only i ve to get like 7970 for instance) or what?
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August 15, 2012 7:56:11 AM

First you need to identify where the bottleneck is occuring if as I'm sure it is, it's the GPU then you would need a better GPU.

If its the CPU (which I doubt most games are GPU bound) then you need to overclock or get a better CPU

If you rush off and buy an i5 when the bottleneck is the GPU then yes you have a better CPU but you wont actually see any gain as the GPU is still gimping your system.
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August 15, 2012 7:58:52 AM

Fire up BF3 and watch CPU and GPU usage on a game of 64 man caspian border it will give you a good indicator
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August 15, 2012 8:01:28 AM

wr6133 said:
First you need to identify where the bottleneck is occuring if as I'm sure it is, it's the GPU then you would need a better GPU.

If its the CPU (which I doubt most games are GPU bound) then you need to overclock or get a better CPU

If you rush off and buy an i5 when the bottleneck is the GPU then yes you have a better CPU but you wont actually see any gain as the GPU is still gimping your system.


then i ll test first?

i play bf3 then open task manager and see usage of cpu

and in same time i open the catalyst manger to see the ATI usage ?

sorry for my bad English( from Egypt_)
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August 15, 2012 8:03:04 AM

that would work yes its not the most scientific way but it will give an indicator. If you set them as always on top and literally run around the map watching them as you do.

I suspect what we will see is very high GPU usage and medium CPU usage with both then spiking when you get the dips
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August 15, 2012 8:10:04 AM

wr6133 said:
First you need to identify where the bottleneck is occuring if as I'm sure it is, it's the GPU then you would need a better GPU.

If its the CPU (which I doubt most games are GPU bound) then you need to overclock or get a better CPU

If you rush off and buy an i5 when the bottleneck is the GPU then yes you have a better CPU but you wont actually see any gain as the GPU is still gimping your system.


Considering that he has an AMD HD6950 that should run BF3 very well, it can not be that.

Large Multiplayer maps that he has said is the problem, is very CPU intensive, i assure you it is a CPU bottleneck.

Feel free to test it OP.
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August 15, 2012 8:12:41 AM

2622092,16,1119689 said:
that would work yes its not the most scientific way but it will give an indicator. If you set them as always on top and literally run around the map watching them as you do.

I suspect what we will see is very high GPU usage and medium CPU usage with both then spiking when you get the dips[/quotemsg


thanks man , u ve been a great help for me u and all this great forum

one last thing if i go for GPU (7970 or Nvidia 670 ) what u advise me to go for?

sorry for talkin too much man :D 
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August 15, 2012 8:16:48 AM

Novuake said:
Considering that he has an AMD HD6950 that should run BF3 very well, it can not be that.

Large Multiplayer maps that he has said is the problem, is very CPU intensive, i assure you it is a CPU bottleneck.

Feel free to test it OP.


u make also a point cuz i found that all the games even maxpayne 3 and Metro 2033 on ultra on 1080p running smooth

but weird i found BF3 single is running perfect i know it s like different engine but its as i said WEIRD this multiplayer got only 45 to 55 sometimes up rise for 60 fps

what u recommend me to go for CPU?
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August 15, 2012 8:17:40 AM

the elve said:
2622092,16,1119689 said:
that would work yes its not the most scientific way but it will give an indicator. If you set them as always on top and literally run around the map watching them as you do.

I suspect what we will see is very high GPU usage and medium CPU usage with both then spiking when you get the dips[/quotemsg


thanks man , u ve been a great help for me u and all this great forum

one last thing if i go for GPU (7970 or Nvidia 670 ) what u advise me to go for?

sorry for talkin too much man :D 
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HD7970. But the performance from the HD6950 will not be worth the cash in my opinion.
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August 15, 2012 8:25:51 AM

Novuake said:
Depends. Are you interested in overclocking?
If not rather just get an I5-3550.

http://www.gigabyte.co.za/products/comparison/list.aspx...

The above boards are pretty cool. Just so you can get an idea of the z77 boards. You may want to shop around for your preference(like front panel USB3 headers and stuff like that).


the elve said:
u make also a point cuz i found that all the games even maxpayne 3 and Metro 2033 on ultra on 1080p running smooth

but weird i found BF3 single is running perfect i know it s like different engine but its as i said WEIRD this multiplayer got only 45 to 55 sometimes up rise for 60 fps

what u recommend me to go for CPU?


As i said. I5-3550.
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August 15, 2012 8:27:57 AM

hmm thanks all of you u Ve been great help for me :D  i ll run my calculations and see what i ll go through
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August 15, 2012 9:58:22 PM

After many tests i found that during intensive gameplay CPU rising up to 80 to 90% usage and GPU for 50 to 60 % as maximum if not 30 and 40%

then Its a CPU issue
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a c 223 à CPUs
August 16, 2012 6:10:02 AM

Correct.
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