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May 1, 2012 3:52:06 PM

Hello everyone, so I'll post the full specs that I'm looking at and I would really appreciate it if you would give me your feedback on it and let me know if you think the build will be compatible and if everything will fit and cool conveniently.

CASE: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
LAN(Not that it really matters): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Possible GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


The reason there is no HDD or Optical is because I will be pulling those from my current rig and reuse them. Just general questions like will the rig work, is the PSU big enough, is there enough on the 12v rails, it seems like it'll be going quite well. I only started shopping around yesterday and I've only ever changed components, never built a rig from the ground up but I figure this will be a fun summer project..] 6811156223

My primary function will be gaming and I may end up attempting to overclock but it is not a system priority right now, I am not too familiar with what Crossfire or SLI are and I hope you guys could shed some light on that for me, I don't plan on doing dual cards or dual displays though so I'm open to suggestions. Also, I'm not too set in stone about the card but I do want to stick with the AMD 6000 series to accomplish the Scorpius build. Any feedback is greatly appreciated.

Also, if you guys could suggest any downgrades or anything that will cut cost more than performance since I don't plan on doing dual display or dual card or anything, I'm solid on the mobo and the processor but if there is something else you would like to suggest as far as the card, the RAM or the case go, I'll be happy to view suggestions. I really want to make sure I won't have an overheating system.

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May 1, 2012 4:12:56 PM

Gotta fix your links before anyone can really help, they're not working.
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May 1, 2012 4:25:28 PM

AntaresX said:
Gotta fix your links before anyone can really help, they're not working.


My apologies for that, they should be all set now.
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May 1, 2012 4:58:28 PM

The AMD CPU is just a bad idea. Get a i5-2500k (or 2400 if you don't want to overclock). For gaming they are simply superior processors.

I'd save money on the motherboard (which is very nice but won't improve performance, I'd go for one closer to the 100$ price point) and possibly on the CPU by getting the 2400 (the 2500k is totally worht it but won't save you money). Also the LAN card is absolutely pointless as all motherboards have an integrated one.

Then you could spend on a bit more ram. 2gbs is simply not enough, especially since it's so cheap. At least 4gbs, 8gbs is ideal. Hell, you can even get 16gbs of very fast ram for under 100$ and totally future proof your PC.

Then the graphics card you chose is very good but by reducing the costs of some of the other things you could get a better one and get better game performance and have a PC that will last longer.

I repeat : BAD processor choice, it is NOT good at gaming for it's price!
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May 1, 2012 4:58:45 PM

Oh and your PSU is fine BTW.
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May 1, 2012 5:04:56 PM

Ah, on the RAM, I meant to put x4 next to it, I plan on running 8GB but I'll start looking into intel processors as well, thanks for the input.
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May 1, 2012 5:28:05 PM

CPU/Mobo = not the best for gaming. (i5/z68 at least.)
Case = where is the cable management? (COOLER MASTER Elite cases for exp.)
GPU= that looks fine.
RAM = meh...4 gigs at least...
PSU = fine

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May 1, 2012 5:30:45 PM

firedice said:
The AMD CPU is just a bad idea. Get a i5-2500k (or 2400 if you don't want to overclock). For gaming they are simply superior processors.

I'd save money on the motherboard (which is very nice but won't improve performance, I'd go for one closer to the 100$ price point) and possibly on the CPU by getting the 2400 (the 2500k is totally worht it but won't save you money). Also the LAN card is absolutely pointless as all motherboards have an integrated one.

Then you could spend on a bit more ram. 2gbs is simply not enough, especially since it's so cheap. At least 4gbs, 8gbs is ideal. Hell, you can even get 16gbs of very fast ram for under 100$ and totally future proof your PC.

Then the graphics card you chose is very good but by reducing the costs of some of the other things you could get a better one and get better game performance and have a PC that will last longer.

I repeat : BAD processor choice, it is NOT good at gaming for it's price!


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
New processor and a new board, cheaper board and the i5 2500 is cheaper than the FX 8150, how does that look?
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May 1, 2012 5:31:04 PM

AMD FX-8120 Zambezi 3.1GHz Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core Desktop Processor - $175
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model F3-14900CL9D-8GBSR - $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER Elite 430 RC-430-KWN1 - $50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard - $138
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec EarthWatts EA-650 GREEN 650W ATX12V v2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply - $65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAPPHIRE 100314-3L Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - $170
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 - $30
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total = ~$690 (not counting $40 in rebates)

If you never plan on Crossfire/SLI, you could go with this MoBo and GPU instead:
ASRock 970 EXTREME3 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard - $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

XFX Double D FX-785A-CDFC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - $270
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Firedice has sound advice, however... the i5-2500K is better than the FX processor but not so much that it is 'superior'. In most games the difference in FPs is not that much (3 - 7 FPs). Research benchmarks but note that it is important to look at the minimum FPs more so than average FPs. The minimum FPs are the ones your eye will notice. Going with an i5 is not a bad decision. However, if you want to do Crossfire/SLI the AMD boards generally be cheaper.
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May 1, 2012 5:55:48 PM

maui67 said:
AMD FX-8120 Zambezi 3.1GHz Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core Desktop Processor - $175
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model F3-14900CL9D-8GBSR - $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER Elite 430 RC-430-KWN1 - $50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard - $138
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec EarthWatts EA-650 GREEN 650W ATX12V v2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply - $65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAPPHIRE 100314-3L Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - $170
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 - $30
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total = ~$690 (not counting $40 in rebates)

If you never plan on Crossfire/SLI, you could go with this MoBo and GPU instead:
ASRock 970 EXTREME3 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard - $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

XFX Double D FX-785A-CDFC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - $270
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Firedice has sound advice, however... the i5-2500K is better than the FX processor but not so much that it is 'superior'. In most games the difference in FPs is not that much (3 - 7 FPs). Research benchmarks but note that it is important to look at the minimum FPs more so than average FPs. The minimum FPs are the ones your eye will notice. Going with an i5 is not a bad decision. However, if you want to do Crossfire/SLI the AMD boards generally be cheaper.


All right, so with the rig configuration that you have just provided to me, I have come up with $627 and $30 in mail in rebates. I'm not sure why it's cheaper than you were just able to get quoted but I'm liking the fact.
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May 1, 2012 8:20:53 PM

maui67 said:
AMD FX-8120 Zambezi 3.1GHz Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core Desktop Processor - $175
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model F3-14900CL9D-8GBSR - $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER Elite 430 RC-430-KWN1 - $50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard - $138
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec EarthWatts EA-650 GREEN 650W ATX12V v2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply - $65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAPPHIRE 100314-3L Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - $170
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 - $30
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total = ~$690 (not counting $40 in rebates)

If you never plan on Crossfire/SLI, you could go with this MoBo and GPU instead:
ASRock 970 EXTREME3 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard - $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

XFX Double D FX-785A-CDFC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - $270
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Firedice has sound advice, however... the i5-2500K is better than the FX processor but not so much that it is 'superior'. In most games the difference in FPs is not that much (3 - 7 FPs). Research benchmarks but note that it is important to look at the minimum FPs more so than average FPs. The minimum FPs are the ones your eye will notice. Going with an i5 is not a bad decision. However, if you want to do Crossfire/SLI the AMD boards generally be cheaper.


Question for you. Is the Hyper 212+ just to upgrade the stock coller and heatsink that come along with the processor?
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May 1, 2012 8:21:31 PM

Best answer selected by Yamitoko.
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May 1, 2012 8:39:18 PM

Yamitoko said:
Question for you. Is the Hyper 212+ just to upgrade the stock coller and heatsink that come along with the processor?


Yes, stock coolers are generally underwhelming even if you don't overclock. The Hyper 212+ is fairly inexpensive and seems to be a favorite on these forums.

That's great that it came in cheaper than I posted. I know as I was researching the parts the 8120 went down in price. It was $190 one minute and the next was down to $175. You can overclock the 8120 very easily to the 8150 level with just a change in multiplier, which is why I recommended it over the 8150.
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May 1, 2012 9:36:40 PM

maui67 said:
Yes, stock coolers are generally underwhelming even if you don't overclock. The Hyper 212+ is fairly inexpensive and seems to be a favorite on these forums.

That's great that it came in cheaper than I posted. I know as I was researching the parts the 8120 went down in price. It was $190 one minute and the next was down to $175. You can overclock the 8120 very easily to the 8150 level with just a change in multiplier, which is why I recommended it over the 8150.


All right, thank you a lot for your help. I was looking at it when it was $190, was kind of curious as to how you found it at $175 for a bit. It'll probably be about a month or two before I end up buying all of this anyway so the prices may go even lower allowing for an upgrade here or there but I'm also purchasing http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... I will probably be placing one of the fans on the rear exhaust and one of them on the top exhaust to help with ventilation. I figured the blue LED will go nicely together as well though I was thinking about mixing up the colors.
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May 2, 2012 1:29:07 AM
May 2, 2012 5:21:10 AM



Now I'm wondering if the drop in price for the lower cache CPU's would be worth it, I'm at $660 for the rig right now but with one of the slightly lower line processors I could drop that by about $50-60 and then take a bit more off with the motherboard, I've got a lot of indecision floating around right now between AMD and Intel and i3 2120 vs. i5 2400/2500. It's quite a lot to take in I suppose, I've never spent much time around CPU comparisons.

I wish there was something more along the lines of a bit of the higher end CPU's being tested. I don't mind spending $170-200 and it seems they ran tests on about $100-125 models. They have lower L2 and L3 caches and such and I don't want to skimp out on this rig. I definitely don't mind saving money here and there but I don't care to downgrade the processing power to do so.

Quick question, what card is better? The Radeon HD 6850 or the 6870? I've seen a lot of back and forth about OC speeds and ceilings and such but I don't really plan on putting too much into OCing. I'm just curious if the 6870 is worth the $20-30 on average that they cost more, I'm looking at these two cards in particular.

6850: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

6870: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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May 3, 2012 6:30:09 AM

drop the 212 cpu cooler if it means a better gpu
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May 3, 2012 6:51:16 AM

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Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 ...
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GIGABYTE GA-Z68A-D3H-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
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CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 V2 500W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
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$20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
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$199.98
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Subtotal: $703.92 (50 MIR = 653.92)

That is a gaming rig I'd go for. (Note if you want to Xfire a 2nd gpu u may want to get a better PSU now add about 40-50 bucks to the build.)
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May 4, 2012 3:16:12 AM

loops said:
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LITE-ON DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM
Item #: N82E16827106289
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy


$17.99
1

NZXT GAMMA Classic Series GAMA-001BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Item #: N82E16811146061
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$14.00 Instant


$49.99
$35.99
1

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD2500AAKX 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822136771
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$5.00 Instant


$74.99
$69.99
1

SAPPHIRE 100314-3L Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
Item #: N82E16814102948
Return Policy: VGA Standard Return Policy
-$10.00 Instant
$10.00 Mail-in Rebate Card


$179.99
$169.99
1

AMD Gift - Dirt3 Game Coupon - OEM
Item #: N82E16800995114
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$49.99 Saving


$49.99
$0.00
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G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-10600CL9D-4GBNT
Item #: N82E16820231253
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy


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1

Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 ...
Item #: N82E16819115072
Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy


$219.99
1
COMB__________________________

GIGABYTE GA-Z68A-D3H-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813128502
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 V2 500W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
Item #: N82E16817139027
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$20.00 Instant
-$15.00 Combo
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card


$199.98
$164.98
Subtotal: $703.92 (50 MIR = 653.92)

That is a gaming rig I'd go for. (Note if you want to Xfire a 2nd gpu u may want to get a better PSU now add about 40-50 bucks to the build.)


I've been doing a bit of research and compiling a list, this is what I've got going right now.

Cooler Master 912: $59.99
Antec EA-650: $79.99
G.Skillz Sniper 8GB (2x4GB) 240 Pin 1866: $59.99
Intel i5-2500K 3.3GHz: $169.99 (Microcenter)
ASUS P8Z77-V LX L1155: $89.99 with the purchase of the 2500K from Microcenter $139.99 Normally
Saphire HD Radeon 6950: $229.99 at Microcenter
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May 4, 2012 3:32:00 AM

solid. very solid
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