State of the Union

Baseball, but no mention of the need to fix the BCS? What a ripoff!

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Yeah it was a nearly a perfect speech. Not one booed or walked out. I even saw Hillary Clinton giving a standing ovation.

He's got my vote. He's the greatest President in the last 50 years. Even greater than Reagan or Nixon.
Democrats always hate the ones that are incredibly successful and revolutionary, you might remember the Reagan years if you are old enough.
They still cant stand Reagans legacy, apparant from the CBS special.
It was a great speech from a great man.
He commands your attention as a great speaker, thats apparant from all this attention we're giving the subject.

Now the New Hampshire debate, that was so very entertaining. I almost fell asleep those cronies were so boring.
They looked like zombies.
YAWN

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Yeah, thats right. I support the NV/AMD/IBM axis of evil.

You have to be sarcastic right?

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<font color=blue> "Trying is the first step towards failure." </font color=blue>

Its not silly. Reagan didnt stop Qaddafi, Bush did.
Reagan did scare the [-peep-] out of him hiding in womans clothing.
Bush is one of the great humanitarians.
Clintons face did nothing but encourage the world to attack us.
JFK LOL, no better way to solidify your greatness than flame out really fast and die. Not saying he didnt do good for the time he did perform his duties.

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Yeah, thats right. I support the NV/AMD/IBM axis of evil.

I dont know how all these facts stated can be sarcasm.

FACT

FACT

FACT

FACT

I dont see how facts can be sarcastic in nature.

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Yeah, thats right. I support the NV/AMD/IBM axis of evil.

Listening would teach you more than laughing

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Yeah, thats right. I support the NV/AMD/IBM axis of evil.

It wasn't your "facts" I was questioning, it was your opinions.

I thought it was a terrible speech.

That's just, wow, a stunning statement if you believe it.

Again, wow.

Bush is one of the most ineloquent speakers I've ever heard.

And Rumsfeld, Ashcroft, and Cheney are all stallions...

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<font color=blue> "Trying is the first step towards failure." </font color=blue>

yhgtbfk me. bush is a joke, so is this administration and we look like jackass's to the rest of the world.

bush commands nobody's attention he is atrocious at speaking publically, which btw is the reason he has given the fewest press conferences of any elected president in the last 50 years. all ?s asked at a bush press conference are prescreened so the president knows exactly what will be asked and have an answer prepared. only those who submitted questions ahead of time get to "ask" the president a question.

have you forgot all the bushims that he is responsible for?

reagen wasn't even running the country for most of his second term as his alhiemers had set in, bush 1 was. that was common knowledge.

it was such a perfect spech that i believe nearly 10 percent less people watched this year than last.

enjoy the last days of bush as he will be leaving sooner than you think

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My brain is HT enabled. I can laugh and listen at the same time.

OOOOOOOoooooooooooooWWeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If I ever need a spindoctor I'm hiring you!

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Yeah, thats right. I support the NV/AMD/IBM axis of evil.

As far as being a speaker, he has improved 200% since he got into office.
Hate him, kill all of us conservatives... but that is so very true, any way you slice it.
He gives very good speeches, he never used too, but he does now.
Taking that away shows your bias.

As far as being the best President in 50 years, it is true.
You are clouded by hate like every other clown in this nation (if you're even American). But trust me hes a President of principle and action.
I'm amazed at the ignorance displayed by some of the posters here, 9/11 would have never happened if not for Clintons INACTION.
Its called preventive measures and using your intelligence information wisely. Prez Clit (fitting dont you think) just wanted to get-by.

You can thank your commander in chief of the military and thousands of soldiers for maintaining your freedom.
This is real life you spineless liberals, people f*ckin hate America.
They want us dead. They will kill us all if we let them get the power too someday.
Removing Saddam also happens to have been one of the great humanitarian efforts of the last 50 years.

If you're going to sit there and tell me that making Hitler blow his face off wasnt a humanitarian deed... um f*ck off.

You liberals are all the same but thats why we have 2 parties and not just 1.
We are here to take care of things that are important like the economy (which Bush has fixed and Clinton had effectively destroyed by the end of his term), and maintaining freedom.
Bush has you beat on security, economy and domestic issues.
There is no reason to change and people wont during a time of war.

It seems funny that liberal people are almost always severely uneducated.
No Child Left Behind will fix that.
If I have to break it down for you la-la land liberals..
We are fighting the terrorists in the streets of Tikrit and Basra instead of New York and Washington.
Taking the fight to the terrorists and those who harbor them (Saddam) was what we HAD TO DO unless your a f*cking idiot... seriously.
On 9/11, the average person would say that it would be impossible to not have another terror attack for the NEXT TWO YEARS.
Bush has accomplished this, among many, many many more great things that will go down in history.
He's done more in 3 years than ANY of your liberal do-nothing socialist f*cks that have been elected have done in 2 terms.

You'll be seeing him in another term, I assure you. I'm going to be on the streets, on the phones and giving large amounts of money to ensure we kick your ass.

If you believe in democracy, you should respect him as your publicly elected leader.. if you cant do that like most good Americans do, he is the most power man in the world.
Hate him as you might, he is the man.
The rest of the world sees we finally got a leader who loves his nation.
Of course half the world doesnt like him, he tells the UN that they are the useless bunch of inactive boobs that they are... he puts Saddam in a cage (who tried to assasinate former President Bush), made Qaddafi [-peep-] his pants and give up all WMD plans/programs UNCONDITIONALLY..
Instead of sell us out.

Believe me, I have much more conviction (a conservative trait) than you or any other liberal on this board.
I will be getting this President elected with every other like minded individual, this is the most important time for an election in many years.

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Yeah, thats right. I support the NV/AMD/IBM axis of evil.

Step back man. You're only seeing what you want to see. Let your hate go.

You are so adament about bitching about ANYTHING republican, ANYTHING Bush, that it's ridiculous.

Under Clinton people lost more money than anything in recent history, save the depression. The bubble burst before Bush. The recesion started before Bush. Even I wouldn't blame Clinton exclusively for that though. Somehow the economy is showing signs of massive recovery though. The only soft figure is jobs but that is because productivity has increased dramatically. Once they balance out we'll be ok.

Reagan should be given a good portion of the credit for the downfall of the USSR. Their uranium stockpiles far exceded ours and they were spending trillions to keep up with the arms race. It broke them. This wasn't because of Carter. Yes, communism itself breaks communism, but the downfall of the USSR should be attributed to the fact that they could not afford to go on and they could not afford to control their population any longer.

You go ahead and vote for the yodeller and wart man, but I think you're so blind with meaningless hatred that it's not even funny. Do what I do and make a list of the good and the bad. Be honest and objective.

I'm not sure how many times I have to keep repeating myself to you, but you really need to come to grips with the fact that the WMD in Iraq were documented by sources outside of the USA including the UN and it was Iraq's responsability to cooperate by disclosing them and destroying them. He didn't and that's why we went to war. In the case of Afghanistan they refused to hand over Bin Laden and that is why we went to war. How hard is that for you to understand? The world is a better place with both of those countries not being ruled by their regimes.

I'm so sick of the bitching and moaning. Let's hear something constructive for once.

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Dangerous times?

The problem I see here is that you will complain about Bush's policies no matter what. If we have an attack tommorrow you will claim that he made us no safer. If we didn't go to war in Iraq and Afghanistan you would claim that he made us no safer.

What do you want for safety?

You aren't being objective. No objective person could possibly complain this much.

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He even supports the Patriot act. I don't see it dude, what is it that you like?

I see a lot of stuff that I like about him, but I don't see anything that you would like.

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Bush still says stupid things all the time. It is true that he isn't nearly as bad now as he was when he first took office, but he still is not a well-spoken man. He gives a lot of speeches, which is really hard to mess up, but when he's put on the spot he constantly fumbles over himself, and sounds stupid because of it. That's why you rarely see him giving press conferences that aren't scripted.

Saying he is the best president in 50 years is not a fact, it is an opinion. In your opinion, he is the best, and in my opinion, he is the worst.

I find it funny that you say I am clouded by hate, then go on to say such things as "spineless liberals," "la-la land liberals," and "liberal do-nothing socialist f*cks."

What exactly are Bush's principles? His principles seem to be caving to special interests and looking out for the rich and powerful rather than the average American. His principles seem to be lying to the American people in order to start an expensive war at a time we can't afford it, for who knows what end.

The problem with you is that you make your statements based only on speculation, and back them up with no evidence or facts. 9/11 should have been prevented by the intelligence systems that were already in place. For some reason there was a massive failure that let the terrorists pre-9/11 actions go unchecked. It is simply false to blame Clinton. Personally, I blame the terrorists.

I personally don't feel like this administration is maintaining my freedom. How exactly is invading Iraq protecting my freedom. If anything, the USA PATRIOT Act is more of a threat to American's freedoms and liberties than Saddam Hussein ever was. I, along with 99% of Americans, both liberals and conservatives, agreed with going into Afghanistan because that is where the evidence led us to. That is where the fight belongs, not in Iraq.

I know people hate America. But you have to ask the question, why do they hate America? Islamic fundamentalists are f ucking crazy, and the US constantly sticking it's nose into the middle-east's business is what fuels that hate and insanity. Bush's explaination that they hate us because of our freedoms is just laughable, and when he spouts crap like that he keeps losing more and more points.

To seriously compare Saddam with Hitler is extremely inappropriate. Saddam is a bully compared to Hitler. Hitler posed a threat to not only the United States, but to the entire world, which was obvious. Saddam was relatively contained and posed no immediate threat to us. There's a big difference there bub.

We have two parties because of our ridiculous constiutional system. If we were like most modern democracies, we'd have more. That's why I have a problem with the liberal/conservative only labels, as I am really neither. If anything I'd consider myself a Libertarian, as I'm sure so would a lot of other people.

To say Bush has fixed the economy is ridiculous. The economy is improving, yes, but it still needs to get a lot better before it can be considered fixed. What is really sad is that you say, and apparantly believe, Clinton destroyed the economy. 8 years he was in office, and improvement was made through practically the entire 2 terms. 22 million jobs were created, and the budget was balanced with a plan presented that would eliminate the national debt in 10 years. The Bush administration has given us a $500 billion or so defecit, with a debt that will only get larger and not smaller.

How can you agree with this administration when they slash taxes (to the rich, mind you) but increase spending more than any other administration? That is not the action of a conservative administration.

I do not feel the Bush administration has been dealing with security properly. Nearly every amendment in the Bill of Rights has been given "exceptions" with the USA PATRIOT Act, except the second amendment. Terrorists can still buy all the guns in the US that they want, but because Ashcroft is a lifetime NRA member who won't do anything to let law enforcement do "whatever it takes" to prevent terrorists from getting guns. That tells me that this administration is not serious about security.

No Child Left Behind will not fix our education problems. Do you only think it will because of the promising name? Have you read what the program does? Probably not, and even if you did you would still blindly follow your leader...

I agree with taking the fight to the terrorists. That's what we did in Afghanistan. But, Bush made a mistake in going to Iraq because it thinned out the troops in Afghanistan and drew resources away from the people who were behind 9/11. I don't know if you realize this, but Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with 9/11. Just because Dick Cheney keeps repeating it, only to be corrected by both Bush and Powell, doesn't mean it is true.

To say that the Bush policies have stopped terrorism is inaccurate. The administration has not come up with any arrests or charges filed against anyone since 9/11, showing they are doing their jobs in preventing another attack. It took the terrorists 8 years to strike the World Trade Center again after they first attacked, so to say anything after only 2 years is premature.

Please, tell me, what are the "many, many many more" great things Bush has done that will go down in history? Becuase for the life of me I can't think of any...

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<font color=blue> "Trying is the first step towards failure." </font color=blue>

Thats why I havent been responding to him. Hes a moron.

Hes a centrist my ass. There hasnt been a more centrist republican than Bush in a long time. He's arguing the typical old hat(e) anthems that liberals spew.
That is why me and my conservative comrades are taking over this whole damn country. People are sick of that attitude they put on.

I dont see a real centrist having so much hatred for Bush or his policies.
Bush isnt very 'conservative'.. which is why I feel so strongly about his success and throw my support behind him.

Theres many stupid people in our country, you are a voice of reason DH.

I would show him why everything he says is not only untrue but not logical.. but seriously, that guy needs to get educated.
That would be his best bet in comprehending the state of affairs in this nation.

As far as being positive, I find it funny the original post was negative... then I put a positive light on Bush for a change around here and all these oddballs jump on me.
As I said above, they stated their piece.. and I presented my view.
Is that really a problem?
Yes, it is for the modern liberal American.
Thats why everyone knows about the biased "liberal media".
They dont me speaking my view because they are hateful people.

I'm being as nice as I possibly can while excusing all the ignorance!

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Yeah, thats right. I support the NV/AMD/IBM axis of evil.

i never said i was a centrist i am a liberal very liberal. bush is teetering on fascism. he certainly doesn't fit the profile of what i understand a conservative to be. conversatives are for small government. leaving other people alone, not spending money, cutting taxes. bush is big business, cut taxes spend money galore, bush has increased the size of the federal government more than any other president and during the last election bush said the he would not engage in nation building which is what is doing, or attempting to do in 2 different countries.

liberals don't spew hate, at least no more than conservatitives spew. yes people are sick of conservatives attempting to take over the country you will be shown the door quite shortly. don't let the door hit you on your a$$ on the way out.

there is nothing positive that you can say about bush with the exception that he is resigning from office.

there is no liberal media bias it is a conservative fallacy to fool people into thinking there is one. the media is very much biased, towards money.

i don't have any problems with people voicing their opinions, but if you voice your opinion than you must be prepared to accept what happens as a result.

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You can go ahead and stop supporting the ONLY democratic country in the region. You can go ahead and support the Palestinians, a group whose government:

1. Hijacked and blew up planes throughout the 70's.
2. Hijacked and murdered an American on a cruiseliner
3. Hijacked and murdered members of the jewish olmpic team.
4. Started multiple wars with Israel.
5. Worked with foreign governments to destory Israel.
6. Refuses to stop terrorism since they don't want a civil war.
7. Refuses to crack down on people who strap bombs to themselves and blow up innocent people. The latest suicide bomber was a woman who claimed that she had metal pins in her body. When the guards showed pity she blew them up.
8. Imports large caches of weapons to be used against Israel despite claiming to be for peace.
9. Who's moto is to destroy Israel. Arafat still holds speaches claiming that the Palestinians will regain Jerusalem.


It's a damn shame about both people. I've met Jews and Palestinians and they are nice people. Unfortionately Arafat refuses to make peace and the Israelis respond in kind by electing Sharon. Nonetheless, it's impossible to support people that's entire existance revolves around hate.

You're a pesimist. If you start looking at things from a possitive light you might be surprised what you find. Until then don't suggest that we should abondon the only democratic nation in the region for one that supports and adopts terrorism as thier means to get what they want.

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nicely said my friend nicely said

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I'me working an 11 hour day today...ALONE. Yesterday was the same.

I need all the conversation I can get.

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thats it dude?

i worked from 2230-0730 yesterday(to today) and then from 0930-1630 today. hehe me tired.

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I give you credit for at least saying what you are, being liberal.
I can respect that as its not deceptive.

That first sentence, I strongly disagree with. We are the 'silent majority'. Theres anger on both sides, but the anger on the liberal side has turned into hatred and self destruction.
Thats opinion, and unarguable but I think most would agree generally.

The second part, people arent sick of us taking over the country, because we've been doing very good.
Not in a liberal point of view but for the centrists (the swing vote and the majority) we are doing great.
I'm actually not hardline conservative.
I'm fiscally conservative and socially liberal.

My politics fall in line with Arnold Swartzenegger, George Bush, and Joe Lieberman.
As you and everyone knows, the demos dont exactly like what they used to be.. which is clearly represented by Lieberman.
That, is a good American that I would vote for anyday with a true heart and reasonable mind. All 3 of those men fall into that opinion for me.

I'm not ridiculing you, but try to be more openminded. You seem to have nothing positive to say about Bush and thats just too much bias or hatred.

It certainly wont win you any popularity contests, much as it hasnt worked for your liberal friends trying to get in office.
I have NO PROBLEM with democrats but the uber-liberal ones, who border on outright overthrow of our system and constitution (which you stated you dont support) is what burns me and I feel its the greatest threat to our nation.
The threat from within.

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Yeah, thats right. I support the NV/AMD/IBM axis of evil.

Wow, excellent post.
I think I've found my soulmate

No really, you share many many of my thoughts exactly.

YES

YES

Exactly, a flat tax does force those who earn more to pay more in.
Because they can afford it.
Thats the beauty of percentages.

I hear you and agree but I think your preaching to the trees.

Socialism anyone?

YES, it is a SOCIAL problem not a BIG GOVERNMENT problem.
My idea was to implement "encouragement" programs to donate large amounts of money to charities and those in need.
I dont have specifics but we could certainly encourage charity and goodwill without the ill-will that comes along with TAKING someones money and GIVING it to another.
"Encouragement" programs could go that way possibly. But the current Robin Hood method is bad for the nations psyche, and discourages competition (why work when the rewards are negated??).

Though education and more emphasis on values in our nation.. either faithbased or not we can fix the declining state of our nations attitude.

See, I believe in the system, our republic. I think that the truth will always rise to the top. Therefore I ALWAYS try very hard to support WHOEVER is elected. It is my President and I stand behind him as hes been chosen by us the people through our populace and electorial system.
I am a true believer and patriot.

Its a sacred right to elect our officials, its our DUTY to keep up in politics and vote.. just as its our DUTY to protect our people as Bush is doing. Its also our duty to not run when called upon by your nation like Clinton.

There are other great nations out there, Britain, Australia, Japan and the other 57 nations that unilaterally assisted us in this war on terror.
I wait for the day I get some money and travel to Britain and get to shake the hands of those citizens.

Blair (a liberal) and the conservative party are right beside us just as the great Winston Churchill wanted his nation to do post WW2.
Enough ass kissing, I just feel a great brotherhood with the Brits (as I've stated before I'm a strong supporter of Anglo-American relations and I'm anti UN/EU until they shape up).

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Yeah, thats right. I support the NV/AMD/IBM axis of evil.

20 minutes left. I can't wait to go home. I have 4 episodes of 24 that I downloaded to watch.

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Great movies!

Stiffler makes those movies though.

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