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I7-3770K VS. I5-3570 VS. AMD 8150

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August 15, 2012 8:59:52 PM

This is my first build, and is half way cost conscious, and I want help picking a CPU. I’ve posted a build idea that I got pretty good response from a couple of weeks ago. Now, I’m wondering if I should change the CPU in the build. Basically I want the system for everything, word processing, net surfing, movie streaming to my 27” monitor or my 52 inch flat screen and also online gaming. Most of the reading I’ve done focuses in on gaming, but I want a computer that my wife is going to use for basic computing stuff and go, “wow, you did a good job, this is better than just sinking $1,500 into a Dell or something.” The games I’m currently interested in are Star Wars The Old Republic and Final Fantasy XIV, but I would also like the machine to do well with a more aggressive title like Battlefield 3. Anyway, the machine needs to be semi-cost conscious and be around $1,500 for everything, including what I’ve already purchased ($200 monitor (great deal) $45 Logitech G112 keyboard, $90 Case (HAF 922), and Windows 7 ($30 – have a family member who works for MS) I’m still tinkering with some of the other components, but need some help with the CPU choice. Please note, I’m in Austin, and the nearest MC is 3 hours away which is not convenient, so I’m left buying from Frys and having them price match online site deals.

CPU: I7-3770K IB, I5-3570 IB, AMD FX-8150
MOBO: – LGA1155/Z77 or AM3+/990FX $100-$250 Range
RAM: DDR3/1600 – 16gbs- 4 dimms - $75-125 Range
PSU: 750w – 80+ certified - $100-150 Range
Boot Drive: 120-128GBs SSD – $90-130 Range
GPU (single) Radeon 7850 or 7870 – $250-310 range
Cooler: CM Hyper EVO 212 - $30
Storage Drive: 500GB – 1 TB - $90-110 Range

I have read a bunch of reports and benchmarks and understand that with these three chips the price hierarchy pretty much matches the output. But what I’m wondering is whether I need to pony up the $ for the I7 or if the I5 will suffice? Then, if the I5 will suffice, how does is stand up versus the AMD 8150 in terms of all around output. I know that for strictly gaming the I5 will have the edge, but if I’m in the middle of a game and need to open up a web browser to look up something, or answer an email, is it still going to be much better? Also, to note, I’m probably going to upgrade to windows 8 after it’s been out for a few months, and I’ve read that it is optimized a little bit better for the 8150 than 7 was.
As for OCing, I won’t be from the start, but may add a better cooler and do it down the road, as well as crossfire/sli. I want a system that will be future-proofed for at least a few years before I do this again.

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August 15, 2012 9:07:00 PM

The i5 will be more than good enough. But no need for an 2011 platform. everything just cost more and the gain you get is equal to 0.
The Ivy Intel Core i5 2500K 1155 platform should be more than good enough:) 
If you wanna impress your wife with a good build.
Make sure u get an ssd disk to install your Operation system on.
Using an ssd will give your wife an incredibly wow everything is so fast :p 
Compared to using a regular HDD
As for GPU im not sure, i love nvidia and Im currently using a GTX 560 TI and its more than ok for SWTOR
As for AMD i know nothing of it so cant say.
Ps: Im not a super pro pc dude so do check for other answears aswell :) 
August 15, 2012 9:20:57 PM

If you are not video editing and sh*t then FX 4170 will be better than even a 8150 in games because of the higher clock speed and games don't make use of anymore than 4 cores anyway, so if you decide on a 8150 get a 4170 instead as in games they will be faster. Personally i'd recommend an i5 3570k because they are good enough for all games maxed out and its good. If you do video editing, encoding and all that sort of stuff look towards an i7 3770k/2600k they will do the job fine.
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August 15, 2012 9:31:18 PM

I5, that is all.
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August 15, 2012 9:37:03 PM

The Intel® Core™ i5-2500K or the Intel Core i5-3570K are about the best answer for a gaming processor and have outstanding value for their price. I would go with the Intel Core i5-3570K.
August 15, 2012 9:38:30 PM

IntelEnthusiast said:
The Intel® Core™ i5-2500K or the Intel Core i5-3570K are about the best answer for a gaming processor and have outstanding value for their price. I would go with the Intel Core i5-3570K.


100% this
August 15, 2012 10:26:44 PM

aleksanderdev said:
The i5 will be more than good enough. But no need for an 2011 platform. everything just cost more and the gain you get is equal to 0.
The Ivy Intel Core i5 2500K 1155 platform should be more than good enough:) 
If you wanna impress your wife with a good build.
Make sure u get an ssd disk to install your Operation system on.
Using an ssd will give your wife an incredibly wow everything is so fast :p 
Compared to using a regular HDD
As for GPU im not sure, i love nvidia and Im currently using a GTX 560 TI and its more than ok for SWTOR
As for AMD i know nothing of it so cant say.
Ps: Im not a super pro pc dude so do check for other answears aswell :) 



I had mis-typed. Not going for the I7-3770K, just the I7-3770, as i wanted to keep a possible intel chip on the 1155, and did not want to spend the extra chedder on the 2011 mobo.
August 15, 2012 10:28:58 PM

All these answers are helping a lot, unless an AMD user jumps on and convinces me otherwise, I think I'll stick with my i5-3570 build because I really like the idea of a PCIe 3.0 slot for sparkley new GPU :) 
a c 185 à CPUs
August 15, 2012 10:44:40 PM

The 3770K is a LGA 1155 Chip.


PCIE 3.0 doesn't matter at this time either:
August 16, 2012 12:39:59 AM

the 3570 isnt that 2011 platform?
Motherboards for 2011 cost a lot more, and the PCIe 3 is pointless now will be most likely for the next year aswell.

The 2500 for the 1155 with one of the cheaper asus motherboards would do you great :) 
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August 16, 2012 4:29:12 AM

aleksanderdev said:
the 3570 isnt that 2011 platform?
Motherboards for 2011 cost a lot more, and the PCIe 3 is pointless now will be most likely for the next year aswell.

The 2500 for the 1155 with one of the cheaper asus motherboards would do you great :) 

No, the 3570K and 3770K are LGA 1155 chips, they are slightly upgraded versions of the 2500K and 2600K respectively.

LGA 2011 chips are the 3820, 3930K, and 3960X.
August 16, 2012 6:35:34 AM

mrloafy said:
This is my first build, and is half way cost conscious, and I want help picking a CPU. I’ve posted a build idea that I got pretty good response from a couple of weeks ago. Now, I’m wondering if I should change the CPU in the build. Basically I want the system for everything, word processing, net surfing, movie streaming to my 27” monitor or my 52 inch flat screen and also online gaming. Most of the reading I’ve done focuses in on gaming, but I want a computer that my wife is going to use for basic computing stuff and go, “wow, you did a good job, this is better than just sinking $1,500 into a Dell or something.” The games I’m currently interested in are Star Wars The Old Republic and Final Fantasy XIV, but I would also like the machine to do well with a more aggressive title like Battlefield 3. Anyway, the machine needs to be semi-cost conscious and be around $1,500 for everything, including what I’ve already purchased ($200 monitor (great deal) $45 Logitech G112 keyboard, $90 Case (HAF 922), and Windows 7 ($30 – have a family member who works for MS) I’m still tinkering with some of the other components, but need some help with the CPU choice. Please note, I’m in Austin, and the nearest MC is 3 hours away which is not convenient, so I’m left buying from Frys and having them price match online site deals.

CPU: I7-3770K IB, I5-3570 IB, AMD FX-8150
MOBO: – LGA1155/Z77 or AM3+/990FX $100-$250 Range
RAM: DDR3/1600 – 16gbs- 4 dimms - $75-125 Range
PSU: 750w – 80+ certified - $100-150 Range
Boot Drive: 120-128GBs SSD – $90-130 Range
GPU (single) Radeon 7850 or 7870 – $250-310 range
Cooler: CM Hyper EVO 212 - $30
Storage Drive: 500GB – 1 TB - $90-110 Range

I have read a bunch of reports and benchmarks and understand that with these three chips the price hierarchy pretty much matches the output. But what I’m wondering is whether I need to pony up the $ for the I7 or if the I5 will suffice? Then, if the I5 will suffice, how does is stand up versus the AMD 8150 in terms of all around output. I know that for strictly gaming the I5 will have the edge, but if I’m in the middle of a game and need to open up a web browser to look up something, or answer an email, is it still going to be much better? Also, to note, I’m probably going to upgrade to windows 8 after it’s been out for a few months, and I’ve read that it is optimized a little bit better for the 8150 than 7 was.
As for OCing, I won’t be from the start, but may add a better cooler and do it down the road, as well as crossfire/sli. I want a system that will be future-proofed for at least a few years before I do this again.


Intel Core i7-3770K is the best processor overall. It's also the most expensive of the three.
Intel Core i5-3570 is the best processor on a budget. Most bang for the buck (besides the 3570K.)
AMD FX-8150 is the worst out of the three. Excellent overclocking capabilities, but that's about all.
August 16, 2012 1:56:50 PM

amuffin said:
The 3770K is a LGA 1155 Chip.


PCIE 3.0 doesn't matter at this time either:
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/Intel/Ivy_Bridge_PCI-Express_Scaling/images/perfrel.gif


Thanks for the numbers and I do understand that, but I was hoping to futureproof the computer a little bit and 3.0 would help to do that. Also, since I'm pretty firm on doing a Z77 chipset, there really aren't any mid range boards out there that don't come equipped with PCIe 3.0, so it's really not an issue. That had mainly to do with my choice between AMD and Intel choice if AMD came close to the processing power.
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August 16, 2012 3:42:13 PM

Ivy Bridge CPUs have about 30% more processing power compared to Phenom II / FX CPUs assuming the same clock speed.

The best thing about the FX-81xx series is that they have 8 cores, but... each pair of cores is part of a module which shares resources. Should one core hog up all the available resources, the other core must wait. Most games only use 2 cores. There are a few games that can use up to 4 cores, but they are miniscule in comparison to the number of games using only two cores.

When it comes to applications for the average user, video encoding is one type of program that can make use of more than 4 cores. However, it depends on what codec you are using to encode the video; x.264 can make use of all CPU cores, but XviD can only use one core. Most file compression / decompression software can make use of multiple cores, but unless you do massive amount this type of work, then there's no point in getting a CPU with 8 cores. Some people dabble in 3D rendering and most of those types of programs can make use of multiple cores.

The vast majority of time a computer will only be using 1 or 2 cores (for the average user). All cores beyond that will be idling most of the time.
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