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May 2, 2012 2:14:16 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: within 2 weeks
Budget Range: $1000
System Usage from Most to Least Important: Game, reliable, web/video surfing
Parts Not Required: Monitor
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg.com not really any specific site
Country: USA
Parts Preferences: Intel CPU, Nvidia
Overclocking: No
SLI or Crossfire: No
Monitor Resolution: Not sure, it's 20.1" so perhaps 1280x1024 or 1600x1200
Additional Comments: Will use windows 7 ultimate (have cheap disk from school)

The primary use of the build will be to play games (D3 and SC2 initially). I wanted to incorporate the new Intel Ivy Bridge chip, USB 3.0, and if possible low noise, power consumption. Any help from anyone on a quick compatibility check and identifying if any bottle necks exist is greatly appreciated. The target cost is approximately $1000.

Another question is does anyone have any experience with the Biostar mobo described below (or Biostar as a manufacturer)?

Total cost of the build below, 969.91

CPU
249.99
Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX806237I53570K http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard

119.99
BIOSTAR TZ77XE3 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM
46.99
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU
134.99
EVGA 01G-P3-1556-KR GeForce GTX 550 Ti (Fermi) FPB 1GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU
79.99
SeaSonic M12II 520 Bronze 520W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS 12V v2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SSD
134.99
Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2CCA 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) with Transfer Kit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD
79.99
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKX 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

DVD-ROM
22.99
LITE-ON 24X DVD Writer 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model iHAS424-98 LightScribe Support
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case
99.99
Corsair Carbide Series 400R Graphite grey and black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Gaming Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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May 2, 2012 11:10:10 AM

Another thing I forgot to add is that I'd like to run the system in its stock settings (e.g. no modifiying the cooling schemes, no OCing, etc.)
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May 2, 2012 12:42:29 PM

No OC?
i5-3570k is a resource wasting cpu so.
Since you won't be using the iGPU go for Intel Core i5-3550
It does not OC (you don't want), a slower iGPU (you won't use), it's 30 bucks cheaper (spend in a better GPU), have better virtualization options (if you need.. it's there) and only 0,1ghz slower.
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May 2, 2012 12:56:03 PM

if you want future proof your video card should be higher... strip ram to 4gb and add to VIDEO card the rest may remain.. just my two cents.
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May 2, 2012 1:14:54 PM

Vitornob is 100% right about not getting the -k series processor if you're not going to OC. You should also definitely consider a better video card. If you can tolerate rebates, consider a 6870 for ~$150, like this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... The 560 that vitornob linked is a good choice too if you're committed to nvidia. Or if you want to bump it up another notch, for $200 you can get a 560 Ti: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You might consider a slightly beefier PSU, for future upgrade purposes. If you're getting a 550/560ish card, you may be upgrading within 2 years, and it would be annoying to be PSU-limited.

I'd also consider a beefier HDD, depending on what you plan on using your machine for. You can get 1 TB for ~$100.

Also, although I hesitate to say it since it seems weird to advise people to get old hardware, you might consider a sandy bridge processor (i5-2500, -2400) instead of ivy bridge. I really just don't see the reason to get IB if you are (1) using a desktop, so don't care about the power savings, and are (2) not taking advantage of the better integrated graphics. Might as well spend your money on a better GPU, which will matter wayyyy more for gaming for the next five years compared to the tiny performance per clock gains on IB.
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May 2, 2012 3:49:08 PM

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Carbide-Series-Mid-Tower-... $79.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Corsair Carbide Series 300R Mid-Tower Gaming Case - CC-9011014-WW

http://www.corsair.com/pc-cases/carbide-series-pc-case/... <----- another look at that case

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005A2RJJ8/ref=ox_sc_a... $69.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
OCZ ZS Series 550W 80PLUS Bronze High Performance Power Supply compatible with Intel Sandy Bridge Core i3 i5 i7 and AMD Phenom

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $269.98
ASRock B75 PRO3 LGA 1155 Intel B75 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core i5-3450 Ivy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.5GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2500 BX806237I53450

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=B75%20Pro3 <----- another look at that board

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $44.99 FREE SHIPPING
G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9D-8GAO

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-AD-7280S-0B-Internal-Drive-B... $17.99 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
Sony AD-7280S-0B 24x SATA Internal DVD+/-RW Drive (Black)

http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-3-5-Inch-Intern... $99.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Seagate Barracuda 7200 1 TB 7200RPM SATA 6 Gb/s NCQ 64MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive ST1000DM003

http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-SSDNow-120GB-Solid-KW-S2... $129.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Kingston SSDNow V+200 120GB SATA III 6Gb/s 2.5 Inch Solid State Drive KW-S2120-4B

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $249.99
SAPPHIRE 11200-00-20G Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

Total: $962.91 *not including shipping and rebates
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May 2, 2012 4:26:05 PM

Ho with a HD 7770 since you have a crossfire compatible motherboard. The HD 7770 scales very well in crossfire configuration and is the same price as the 550 ti.

Also, drop the K as others have suggested since you don't want to overclock. Although it is worth mentioning that the GPU on the chip can be disabled.
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May 3, 2012 12:39:52 AM

Thank you everyone for the great feedback - based on the comments, the biggest improvements for the system were:

- Downgrade to i5-3550 (no OCing)
- Upgrade graphics card (Nvidia GTX 480 looked pretty solid from benchmarks, I don't plan on running multiple graphics cards)
- Seek larger HDD ($/memory is low)

I'm in the process of tweaking the build so that it satisfies the $1000 requirement, I'll post in a few.

One question on the Biostar mobo - Does this look like a pretty solid choice for this setup? Are they reliable?

Thanks again for everyone's help!
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May 3, 2012 12:46:32 AM

Check out my $850 build here:
http://www.squidoo.com/electronicandmore
Drop down to the i5 3450 (-50)
Mushkin Chronos 120GB (+115)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Total: $936

You still get the ability to CF/SLI if you ever wanted to in the far future. 8x/8x on the motherboard. Still have PCI 3.0 thanks to Gen3 on the Extreme3 Gen3 Z68. Plus it's a trusted company and still ATX. Your PSU is more than enough still, and you get a solid reliable fast SSD.
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May 3, 2012 1:04:03 AM

Here's rev 2.0:

CPU
219.99
Intel Core i5-3550 Ivy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2500 BX806237I53550
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard
119.99
BIOSTAR TZ77XE3 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM
42.99
Patriot Gamer 2 Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model PGD38G1600ELK
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU
239.99
EVGA 015-P3-1480-KR GeForce GTX 480 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU
69.99
OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W Modular High Performance Power Supply compatible with Intel Sandybridge Core i3 i5 i7 and AMD Phenom
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SSD
134.99
Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2CCA 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) with Transfer Kit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD
99.99
Western Digital Caviar Green WD10EARX 1TB IntelliPower 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

DVD-ROM
22.99
LITE-ON 24X DVD Writer 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model iHAS424-98 LightScribe Support
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case
79.99
Corsair Carbide Series 300R Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total cost 1030.91
Actual cost comes out to 989.90 when factoring in + 3.99 shipping and - 45 rebates :) 

I think I'll be much happier with the GTX480 graphics card, which looks like it is a top notch option. I'm still looking at potentially downgrading the PSU.

Another few questions:

Are there significant differences between the z77 chipset and z68 chipsets in motherboards? I thought that z77 was the latest technology and would maximize future upgrade-ability.

I haven't built a pc before, but I've troubleshooted my existing one. I hope everything fits together :)  Are there any final compatibility checks anyone would recommend?

Thanks again all!
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May 3, 2012 1:20:05 AM

You have a board that supports PCI-E 3.0 and cpu that supports PCI-E 3.0 and you screwed it up with that 2+ year old power hog of a 480. You must have looked high and low for that card. Last month newegg only had two of them on their site and they were only on there for the fact newegg hadn't run the stock out yet. That card is as dead as the VCR.

Don't get the modstream. It was one of OCZ's worst line of cpu's. Google some professional reviews on it. And why spend an extra $40 on that Biostar board when I posted a nice $80 board up there? Why that Biostar board over the Asrock?

The rest of your build looks solid. Just the vid card, board and psu are highly questionable.
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May 3, 2012 1:24:45 AM

aznshinobi said:
Check out my $850 build here:
http://www.squidoo.com/electronicandmore
Drop down to the i5 3450 (-50)
Mushkin Chronos 120GB (+115)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Total: $936

You still get the ability to CF/SLI if you ever wanted to in the far future. 8x/8x on the motherboard. Still have PCI 3.0 thanks to Gen3 on the Extreme3 Gen3 Z68. Plus it's a trusted company and still ATX. Your PSU is more than enough still, and you get a solid reliable fast SSD.



Thanks for the link to the site, videos will be helpful when I begin building :)  The Mushkin will shave an extra $20 off the build I have proposed. What's your opinion on the Biostar mobo I have spec'd out?
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May 3, 2012 1:45:02 AM

Why_Me said:
You have a board that supports PCI-E 3.0 and cpu that supports PCI-E 3.0 and you screwed it up with that 2+ year old power hog of a 480. You must have looked high and low for that card. Last month newegg only had two of them on their site and they were only on there for the fact newegg hadn't run the stock out yet. That card is as dead as the VCR.

Don't get the modstream. It was one of OCZ's worst line of cpu's. Google some professional reviews on it. And why spend an extra $40 on that Biostar board when I posted a nice $80 board up there? Why that Biostar board over the Asrock?

The rest of your build looks solid. Just the vid card, board and psu are highly questionable.



Thanks Why, I'm already drafting version 3.0 of the build. I wouldn't have known about the OCZ modstream PSUs and the quality issues. I wasn't too sure on the board and the reliability of the mfg., at the time, all the components I picked out fit into it. Is Asrock a more reliable manufacturer of boards? Also is there an issue with the B75 chipset? It looks like the board is for turboboost, k-series or HT support technology, which I believe the new processor isn't.
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May 3, 2012 1:47:00 AM

machine67891234 said:
Thanks for the link to the site, videos will be helpful when I begin building :)  The Mushkin will shave an extra $20 off the build I have proposed. What's your opinion on the Biostar mobo I have spec'd out?

You could drop the SSD for now. Newegg has 120GB SATA 3 SSD's for $110 and they will most likely be under $100 in another month. You could pick one up then and just reload your O/S.

This 7870 out performs the gtx 580 more times than naught, and it uses hardly any juice. That and it's a new generation card.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $349.99
ASUS HD7870-DC2-2GD5 Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

or get that card for 350 + free shipping @ amazon.



http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/HD_7870_Direct_... <----- review w/benchmarks of that Asus 7870
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May 3, 2012 2:31:27 AM

Any recommendation to what size power supply I'd need with the 7870?
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May 3, 2012 2:35:48 AM

650w would allow you to CF in the future. A 550w is more than enough for one.
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May 3, 2012 3:03:40 AM

Rev 3.0

CPU
219.99
Intel Core i5-3550 Ivy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2500 BX806237I53550
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard
79.99
ASRock B75 PRO3 LGA 1155 Intel B75 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM
42.99
Patriot Gamer 2 Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model PGD38G1600ELK
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU

349.99
ASUS HD7870-DC2-2GD5 Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU
79.99
Antec EarthWatts EA-650 GREEN 650W ATX12V v2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SSD
74.99
Mushkin Enhanced Chronos MKNSSDCR60GB 2.5" 60GB SATA III Asynchronous MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD
99.99
Western Digital Caviar Green WD10EARX 1TB IntelliPower 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

DVD-ROM
22.99
LITE-ON 24X DVD Writer 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model iHAS424-98 LightScribe Support
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case
79.99
Corsair Carbide Series 300R Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Grand Total is 1056.03 (with shipping and rebates)

Ok I downgraded the SSD to the 60 GB for 74.99, and swapped out the BIOSTAR mobo for the 79.99 ASRock. Also swapped out the PSU. With the freed up room in the budget I threw in the HD7870. Only issue is now I'm slightly over the 1000 budget. I thought about scaling back to the $250 HD7850 but saw there were some issues in the benchmark testing for SC2 (which is a game I intend to play).

Any thoughts on where to reduce cost? The build is looking pretty sweet though!
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May 3, 2012 3:04:46 AM

Also for some reason saw that Nvidia cards tend to work better with blizzard games (e.g. starcraft 2, d3, WoW) for some reason... is there any truth to that rumor?
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May 3, 2012 3:23:43 AM

Check out reviews and see whether the NVIDIA or the AMD Card has better fps.
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May 3, 2012 3:38:16 AM

machine67891234 said:
Also for some reason saw that Nvidia cards tend to work better with blizzard games (e.g. starcraft 2, d3, WoW) for some reason... is there any truth to that rumor?

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May 3, 2012 3:42:50 AM

Haha, awesome well that settles it!
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May 3, 2012 3:44:40 AM

Why, do you have any recommendations on how to get the build below 1000$ with the 7870? I'd still like to keep the SSD and run my OS off of it for the fast boot up.
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May 3, 2012 3:50:56 AM

Get the i5 3450 instead.
Drop down from the Corsair 300R to the Source 220 NZXT.
With that, those will save you about $35
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May 3, 2012 4:17:24 AM

http://www.amazon.com/Antec-Three-Hundred-Gaming-Comput... $54.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Antec Three Hundred ATX Mid Tower Gaming Computer Case

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005A2RJJ8/ref=ox_sc_a... $69.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
OCZ ZS Series 550W 80PLUS Bronze High Performance Power Supply compatible with Intel Sandy Bridge Core i3 i5 i7 and AMD Phenom

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $269.98
ASRock B75 PRO3 LGA 1155 Intel B75 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core i5-3450 Ivy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.5GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2500 BX806237I53450

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=B75%20Pro3 <----- another look at that board

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $44.99 FREE SHIPPING
Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model 997002

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-AD-7280S-0B-Internal-Drive-B... $17.99 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
Sony AD-7280S-0B 24x SATA Internal DVD+/-RW Drive (Black)

http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-3-5-Inch-Intern... $99.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Seagate Barracuda 7200 1 TB 7200RPM SATA 6 Gb/s NCQ 64MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive ST1000DM003

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $114.99 FREE SHIPPING
Mushkin Enhanced Chronos MKNSSDCR120GB 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

http://www.amazon.com/HD7870-DC2-2GD5-DisplayPort-Utili... $349.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
ASUS HD7870-DC2-2GD5 Radeon 2GB DDR5 VGA/DVI/HDMI/DisplayPort GPU Tweak Utilities PCI-Express 3.0 Graphics Card HD7870-DC2-2GD5

Total: $1022.91 *not including shipping and rebates
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May 3, 2012 4:36:55 AM

O.O I think I found my upgrade....
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May 3, 2012 4:52:52 AM

He could also go with HD 7750's in crossfire as well and drop down to a 400 watt PSU since the 7750s don't need PCI-E connectors and will run off the juice from the motherboard. They, together, also don't consume more than 100 watts on load and perform around the level of a GTX 560 Ti. Same price point but 40-50% the power consumption.

Sapphire Radeon HD 7750 OC = $220 for two
http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-Radeon-PCI-Express-Graph...
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May 3, 2012 11:49:33 AM

slomo4sho said:
He could also go with HD 7750's in crossfire as well and drop down to a 400 watt PSU since the 7750s don't need PCI-E connectors and will run off the juice from the motherboard. They, together, also don't consume more than 100 watts on load and perform around the level of a GTX 560 Ti. Same price point but 40-50% the power consumption.

Sapphire Radeon HD 7750 OC = $220 for two
http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-Radeon-PCI-Express-Graph...



Sorry if this is a dumb question but, What is required in terms of setting up the crossfire configuration? Is it basically already "enabled" if the mobo is capable of supporting, and you just need to plug the two cards into it?
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May 3, 2012 10:37:44 PM

... The configuration is already enabled if the board supports it. You need 2 Crossfire adapters to "attach" the two cards together. Those should come with the cards.
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May 4, 2012 12:04:52 AM

I think I'm just going to run a single 7870 HD w/o crossfire, I think it will crush most games that I intend to play initially on its own ;) 

Working on the next revision of the build...will post shortly
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May 4, 2012 12:12:48 AM

Rev 4.0

CPU + Mobo combo
289.98
ASRock B75 PRO3 LGA 1155 Intel B75 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard bundled with
1x Intel Core i5-3550 Ivy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

RAM
42.99
Patriot Gamer 2 Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model PGD38G1600ELK
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU
349.99
HIS IceQ H787Q2G2M Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU
79.99
Antec EarthWatts EA-650 GREEN 650W ATX12V v2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SSD
74.99
Mushkin Enhanced Chronos MKNSSDCR60GB 2.5" 60GB SATA III Asynchronous MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD
99.99
Western Digital Caviar Green WD10EARX 1TB IntelliPower 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

DVD-ROM
22.99
LITE-ON 24X DVD Writer 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model iHAS424-98 LightScribe Support
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case
54.99
NZXT Tempest 210 CA-TP210-01 Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total is 1015.91, however there are $30 in rebates, and free shipping on everything.

Final cost 985.91

The combo deal on the mobo and CPU shaved off $10, and the HIS IceQ 7870 had free shipping plus a $30 rebate. Also changed the case, I lost 1 USB 3.0 port on the front, but kept 1. Price was reduced by $25. Also decided to stick with the Antec PSU, because based on reviews they seem to be a pretty solid mfg.

Now just to double check the compatibility of it all and make sure all the pieces fit together... any thoughts?
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May 4, 2012 12:32:59 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3550 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI Z68A-G45 (B3) ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($117.49 @ CompUSA)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($42.99 @ NCIX US)
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Hard Drive: Intel 520 Series Cherryville 60GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.24 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($329.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Antec P280 ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling 600W ATX12V Power Supply ($66.44 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1044.11
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-05-03 20:32 EDT-0400)
For a little bit more, you can get a much quieter system.
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May 4, 2012 12:35:45 AM

UVB076 said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3550 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI Z68A-G45 (B3) ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($117.49 @ CompUSA)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($42.99 @ NCIX US)
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Hard Drive: Intel 520 Series Cherryville 60GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.24 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($329.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Antec P280 ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling 600W ATX12V Power Supply ($66.44 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1044.11
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-05-03 20:32 EDT-0400)
For a little bit more, you can get a much quieter system.



What's quieter about the system you have spec'd out compared to the one I listed previously?
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May 4, 2012 12:43:21 AM

machine67891234 said:
What's quieter about the system you have spec'd out compared to the one I listed previously?

PSU (83% sure of that)
But definitely NOT the super-quiet case /sarcasm.
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May 4, 2012 1:26:05 AM

Hmm that antec case does look pretty nice... looks like it has a dust filter, but it looks kinda huge. Do they make a smaller version at a similar or less price point?
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May 4, 2012 1:51:05 AM

machine67891234 said:
I think I'm just going to run a single 7870 HD w/o crossfire, I think it will crush most games that I intend to play initially on its own ;) 

Working on the next revision of the build...will post shortly



At least get a motherboard that supports SLI/Crossfire that way you have the option to add a second card down the line when prices drop.
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May 4, 2012 1:58:11 AM

slomo4sho said:
At least get a motherboard that supports SLI/Crossfire that way you have the option to add a second card down the line when prices drop.


In the features, it says

1 x PCIe 3.0 x16 Slot, Supports AMD Quad CrossFireX , CrossFireX
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May 4, 2012 2:02:45 AM

machine67891234 said:
In the features, it says

1 x PCIe 3.0 x16 Slot, Supports AMD Quad CrossFireX , CrossFireX


The other slot is 2.0

I would recommend 2 x PCIe 3.0 x16 slots.
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May 4, 2012 2:11:19 AM

slomo4sho said:
The other slot is 2.0

I would recommend 2 x PCIe 3.0 x16 slots.

You should post a build for the OP then with a board that supports SLI/Crossfire and a psu to push two of those cards within his budget. Seeing how the OP had no intention of adding a second card nor over clocking you might want to impress on him about the benefits of dual cards later on.

In the meantime I still have to go with this build down below. If he was to lose the SSD for a single 7870 that wouldn't be a loss imo. The 7870 mops the floor with the gtx 570 and the OP can always pick up a SSD later on. I just hope you don't try to fit a lame card in that build with something like the 7770.

That build down below is pretty much what the OP stated in his build format.

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Carbide-Series-Mid-Tower-... $79.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Corsair Carbide Series 300R Mid-Tower Gaming Case - CC-9011014-WW

http://www.corsair.com/pc-cases/carbide-series-pc-case/... <----- another look at that case

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005A2RJJ8/ref=ox_sc_a... $69.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
OCZ ZS Series 550W 80PLUS Bronze High Performance Power Supply compatible with Intel Sandy Bridge Core i3 i5 i7 and AMD Phenom

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $269.98
ASRock B75 PRO3 LGA 1155 Intel B75 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core i5-3450 Ivy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.5GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2500 BX806237I53450

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=B75%20Pro3 <----- another look at that board

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $44.99 FREE SHIPPING
G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9D-8GAO

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-AD-7280S-0B-Internal-Drive-B... $17.99 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
Sony AD-7280S-0B 24x SATA Internal DVD+/-RW Drive (Black)

http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-3-5-Inch-Intern... $99.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Seagate Barracuda 7200 1 TB 7200RPM SATA 6 Gb/s NCQ 64MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive ST1000DM003

http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-SSDNow-120GB-Solid-KW-S2... $129.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Kingston SSDNow V+200 120GB SATA III 6Gb/s 2.5 Inch Solid State Drive KW-S2120-4B

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $249.99
SAPPHIRE 11200-00-20G Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

Total: $962.91 *not including shipping and rebates


or lose the SSD for now, and go with this card down below.


http://www.amazon.com/HD7870-DC2-2GD5-DisplayPort-Utili... $349.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
ASUS HD7870-DC2-2GD5 Radeon 2GB DDR5 VGA/DVI/HDMI/DisplayPort GPU Tweak Utilities PCI-Express 3.0 Graphics Card HD7870-DC2-2GD5

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/HD_7870_Direct_... <----- review w/benchmarks of that Asus 7870
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May 4, 2012 2:33:31 AM

Why_Me said:
I just hope you don't try to fit a lame card in that build with something like the 7770.


At your request:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3550 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.90 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Biostar TZ77XE3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper Xtreme 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($44.99 @ Microcenter)
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($121.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Hard Drive: Crucial M4 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7770 1GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($119.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7770 1GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($119.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Antec Three Hundred Illusion ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill 450W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($70.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $985.79
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-05-03 22:33 EDT-0400)


Using these combos to shaves another $30 off build
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

And drop another $30 by dropping the CPU cooler since the OP doesn't plan on overclocking.

Also switch the ram to G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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May 4, 2012 2:38:57 AM

Not a good idea with the Biostar MOBO, the CF 7770 or the Rosewill PSU. Why_Me's build is better.
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May 4, 2012 2:55:43 AM

azeem40 said:
Not a good idea with the Biostar MOBO, the CF 7770 or the Rosewill PSU. Why_Me's build is better.


Matter of personal opinion. The system load is going to be around 300 watts with CF 7770 and the PSU is rated as 80+ gold, 450 watts is more than enough for the configuration. The CF 7770 outperform the 7850 and equal the 7890 in most games.

Also, since you are such a jonnyguru.com fan...
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
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May 4, 2012 3:17:14 AM

Why_Me said:
You should post a build for the OP then with a board that supports SLI/Crossfire and a psu to push two of those cards within his budget. Seeing how the OP had no intention of adding a second card nor over clocking you might want to impress on him about the benefits of dual cards later on.

In the meantime I still have to go with this build down below. If he was to lose the SSD for a single 7870 that wouldn't be a loss imo. The 7870 mops the floor with the gtx 570 and the OP can always pick up a SSD later on. I just hope you don't try to fit a lame card in that build with something like the 7770.

That build down below is pretty much what the OP stated in his build format.

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Carbide-Series-Mid-Tower-... $79.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Corsair Carbide Series 300R Mid-Tower Gaming Case - CC-9011014-WW

http://www.corsair.com/pc-cases/carbide-series-pc-case/... <----- another look at that case

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005A2RJJ8/ref=ox_sc_a... $69.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
OCZ ZS Series 550W 80PLUS Bronze High Performance Power Supply compatible with Intel Sandy Bridge Core i3 i5 i7 and AMD Phenom

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $269.98
ASRock B75 PRO3 LGA 1155 Intel B75 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core i5-3450 Ivy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.5GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2500 BX806237I53450

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=B75%20Pro3 <----- another look at that board

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $44.99 FREE SHIPPING
G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9D-8GAO

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-AD-7280S-0B-Internal-Drive-B... $17.99 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
Sony AD-7280S-0B 24x SATA Internal DVD+/-RW Drive (Black)

http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-3-5-Inch-Intern... $99.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Seagate Barracuda 7200 1 TB 7200RPM SATA 6 Gb/s NCQ 64MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive ST1000DM003

http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-SSDNow-120GB-Solid-KW-S2... $129.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Kingston SSDNow V+200 120GB SATA III 6Gb/s 2.5 Inch Solid State Drive KW-S2120-4B

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $249.99
SAPPHIRE 11200-00-20G Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

Total: $962.91 *not including shipping and rebates


or lose the SSD for now, and go with this card down below.


http://www.amazon.com/HD7870-DC2-2GD5-DisplayPort-Utili... $349.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
ASUS HD7870-DC2-2GD5 Radeon 2GB DDR5 VGA/DVI/HDMI/DisplayPort GPU Tweak Utilities PCI-Express 3.0 Graphics Card HD7870-DC2-2GD5

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/HD_7870_Direct_... <----- review w/benchmarks of that Asus 7870


Just some thoughts, again I'm open to feedback b/c I'm relatively new to this:

CPU + Mobo combo
The i5-3550 I'm proposing is slightly faster than the i5-3450; mobos are the same. I'd like to avoid any downgrades to the processor if possible to aid in future proofing.

RAM
Both are DDR3 1600 4gb and two modules for dual channel on mobo

GPU
349.99
HIS IceQ 7870 and the asus 7870, both are the same chipset... so I assume these will be roughly equivalent. The HIS just has a better deal right now. Both graphics cards are "oversized" for the games I"ll be playing initially, in turn I think they will run fairly quiet to keep noise low.

PSU
From what I've researched, it seems as though the Antec PSUs are one of the top manufacturers quality wise; also chose slightly oversized 650 w so that load is only 30-70% at max and runs cool to keep noise low.

SSD
The purpose is to operate as a boot drive primarily, as prices come down in the future, I could always swap in more capacity.

HDD
99.99
Western Digital Caviar Green WD10EARX 1TB HDD just for cheap space it seems equivalent to the Seagate (speed, price, size)

DVD-ROM
Just plain old drive; maybe would consider blue ray player in future

Case
Definitely seems as though Why has the better case (Corsair); I'd like to have something with dust filters, easy to remove panels, etc. Some problems with some of the brackets on the NTZ (that I chose) according to reviews; but appears to be a solid value case. Also I think the small fans on the NTZ case will make more noise than a case equipped with larger fans running at lower RPMs

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May 4, 2012 3:25:30 AM

machine67891234 said:



HDD
99.99
Western Digital Caviar Green WD10EARX 1TB HDD just for cheap space it seems equivalent to the Seagate (speed, price, size)


The green series is the energy efficient model and isn't build for performance.
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May 4, 2012 3:42:07 AM

slomo4sho said:
The green series is the energy efficient model and isn't build for performance.


So that means green series runs at lower energy cost, but isn't quite as fast? I don't think it's noticeable though compared to the seagate, right?
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May 4, 2012 12:47:57 PM

Rev 5.0 (I think this might be it)

CPU + Mobo combo
289.98
ASRock B75 PRO3 LGA 1155 Intel B75 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

RAM
42.99
Patriot Gamer 2 Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model PGD38G1600ELK
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU
349.99
HIS IceQ H787Q2G2M Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU
79.99
Antec EarthWatts EA-650 GREEN 650W ATX12V v2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SSD
74.99
Mushkin Enhanced Chronos MKNSSDCR60GB 2.5" 60GB SATA III Asynchronous MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD + Optical Drive combo
111.98
Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive bundled with 1x LITE-ON 24X DVD Writer Black SATA Model iHAS424-98 ..
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Case
79.99
Corsair Carbide Series 300R Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total cost 1029.91

With $9.01 for shipping and $30 in rebates, the final total cost is 1008.92.

I changed to the seagate barracuda and combo'd with the dvd drive, and Why's recommendation of the corsair carbide case. I think being $9 over the $1000 budget is worthwhile as I gain an extra usb 3.0 port on the front, filters on the case, and generally a much better case.

Many nice features (latest chipsets on gpu, cpu, mobo), 6 mb/s sata hdd, small SSD for fast boot of OS, full usb 3.0 compatibility, quality PSU with overhead room, and plenty of RAM will make the build last for some time.

Thanks everyone for your input! A huge help... does anyone have any final thoughts?

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