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May 2, 2012 1:59:08 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: Next Week

Budget Range: 500-700 dollars

System Usage from Most to Least Important: 3D Modeling, Graphic Design, Gaming, Retro Console Emulation

Parts Not Required:Monitor

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg, Amazon

Country: United States

Parts Preferences: by brand or type: AMD Based system, Phenom X4

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Monitor Resolution: 1900 x 1080 as my monitor that I already have has that resolution

Additional Comments: I prefer something that isn't very loud and doesn't generate a lot of heat.

The main thing I'm going to be doing on this PC is lite gaming as well as some photoshop and Autodesk programs like Maya and Softimage. The gaming I plan on doing on this PC is Diablo 3, Starcraft 2, and The Witcher 2 among others. I really don't care about playing these games on the highest settings or anything like that. Other gaming I want do on this PC is emulation for previous gen consoles like N64 and PS2. I would also like to add that I don't have Windows 7 and I would like to purchase it based on this budget. Me being fairly new to all this, I was confused at where to start my build. This was something that I came up with based on reading some threads on here.

CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX $119.00

Motherboard

ASRock 970 EXTREME3 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard $79.00

GPU

SAPPHIRE 100315L Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity $149.99

RAM

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL $46.99

Cooling Fan

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7 $29.99

Heatsink

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM $11.99


Hard Drive

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKX 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive $79.99

DVD Drive

ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X $17.99

Case and Power Supply

Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, comes with Three Fans-1x Front Blue LED 120mm Fan, 1x Top 140mm Fan, 1x Rear 120mm Fan, option Fans-2x Side 120mm Fan $99.98

Grand Total was 641.74 with shipping.

I'm okay with this price, but the problem is I want to stay within the budget while having Windows 7. What could I change to make this build the same price while still having a copy of Windows 7? I'm open to any suggestions. Thank You.
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May 2, 2012 2:45:46 PM

first up, I think we can build you an ivy bridge system in this range, which will be far faster than the 965. gimme a half hour or so on the 'egg and I'll post a new build
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a b 4 Gaming
May 2, 2012 3:50:48 PM

ok, here we go:

Rosewill R102 case: $29.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
a compromise. smaller than the Challenger, but It pulls us under budget, as you'll see below, limits you to a 9.25" gpu.

Gigabyte B75 motherboard + i5-3450 (3.1 GHz) ivy bridge: $259.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
this is the ivy bridge equivalent to a H61 and i5-2400. no overclock really, but you can tweak the cpu to run at its maximum turbo boost on all 4 cores (3.5 GHz). stock fan is all you'll need.

Patriot 8 GB DDR3-1600, CAS 9: $40.99
http://www.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingItem.aspx?ItemLi...
cheap, reliable, what more do you need?

Corsair CX 430 v2: $44.99 w/ $10 rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
plenty of power

HIS HD6850: $139.99 w/ free DiRT 3 and w/ $10 rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
good card. a 6870 would be about $40 more, and a 7850 about $130 more, both over your budget.

Seagate 500GB HDD: $79.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
free shipping!

Samsung 22x DVD burner: $15.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

win 7: $99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

total: $711.91 before $20 in rebates
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May 2, 2012 4:23:05 PM

Make the following changes to your build:

EVGA SuperClocked 01G-P3-1363-KR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card - $150 ($25 rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBXL - $42
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
The Phenom II are spec'd to use 1333MHz. So unless you plan to do some major overclocking the 1600Mhz is not necessary and will save you a few bucks.

AMD Phenom II X4 975 Black Edition Deneb 3.6GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Desktop Processor & Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKX 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive (Combo) - $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
This combo is $10 less than your cpu $ HDD plus the CPU is a bit faster.

You don't absolutely have to have the Artic Silver, you could use what comes with the Hyper 212.

With the above changes plus a copy of Win 7 the total comes to $710 before shipping (not counting the $25 rebate on the GPU)

BTW - The Ivy Bridge build is not going to be "far faster", maybe slightly faster, but not far faster. Look at this review of the Ivy Bridge i7-3770K:
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1914/3/

You'll see that the FX keeps up with the IB and that the tried and true Phenom II x4 is only a few FPs behind the IB.
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May 2, 2012 11:18:08 PM

Thanks for the replies. Before I make a final decision, is there any build that is more towards lower end of my budget?
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a b 4 Gaming
May 2, 2012 11:53:40 PM

Without sacrificing performance, there is no good build at 500 dollars.
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May 3, 2012 3:26:23 AM

maui67 said:
Make the following changes to your build:

EVGA SuperClocked 01G-P3-1363-KR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card - $150 ($25 rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBXL - $42
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
The Phenom II are spec'd to use 1333MHz. So unless you plan to do some major overclocking the 1600Mhz is not necessary and will save you a few bucks.

AMD Phenom II X4 975 Black Edition Deneb 3.6GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Desktop Processor & Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKX 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive (Combo) - $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
This combo is $10 less than your cpu $ HDD plus the CPU is a bit faster.

You don't absolutely have to have the Artic Silver, you could use what comes with the Hyper 212.

With the above changes plus a copy of Win 7 the total comes to $710 before shipping (not counting the $25 rebate on the GPU)

BTW - The Ivy Bridge build is not going to be "far faster", maybe slightly faster, but not far faster. Look at this review of the Ivy Bridge i7-3770K:
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1914/3/

You'll see that the FX keeps up with the IB and that the tried and true Phenom II x4 is only a few FPs behind the IB.


Is the motherboard good for this build? I read some of the reviews on the board and it had some negative reviews.
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May 3, 2012 10:13:14 PM

I assume you mean the ASRock 970 mobo you originally posted. It looks like a pretty good motherboard, although I have not personally used one. You have to take the reviews on newegg with a grain of salt. I think sometimes people aren't careful or know what they are doing and damage the mobo but then want to complain that it came that way. I usually add up the 5 egg and 4 egg percentage and if it is 80% or more then I feel confident it is a good component. The only time I get really worried is if the majority of the bad reviews point to the same issue or problem. Then that would indicate that there is a cronic problem with that component.
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May 5, 2012 5:06:00 AM

maui67 said:
I assume you mean the ASRock 970 mobo you originally posted. It looks like a pretty good motherboard, although I have not personally used one. You have to take the reviews on newegg with a grain of salt. I think sometimes people aren't careful or know what they are doing and damage the mobo but then want to complain that it came that way. I usually add up the 5 egg and 4 egg percentage and if it is 80% or more then I feel confident it is a good component. The only time I get really worried is if the majority of the bad reviews point to the same issue or problem. Then that would indicate that there is a cronic problem with that component.

Okay, I just want to be careful I don't buy anything bad. Every penny counts here
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May 5, 2012 5:12:06 AM

I guess the biggest question here is what build is the better option for me? The Ivy bridge build, or the AMD build?
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May 14, 2012 1:03:24 AM

Best answer selected by megazordprime.
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