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August 16, 2012 8:15:52 PM

mainly i would be interested about airflow in following case
MIDI Eurocase ML-5410
http://www.eurocase.cz/index.php?gid=401 27 eur
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http://www.eurocase.cz/image.php?id=455&format=jpg&thum...
http://www.eurocase.cz/image.php?id=456&format=jpg&thum...

full atx motherboard, has enough space for 2 way SLI/CF and for 4 fans front/2x side/rear
i already have this case for my core2duo/radeon5750 rig and it works perfectly, but i just wanna check with the community

thank you
revro

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August 16, 2012 8:54:59 PM

revro said:
mainly i would be interested about airflow in following case
MIDI Eurocase ML-5410
http://www.eurocase.cz/index.php?gid=401 27 eur
pictures
http://www.eurocase.cz/image.php?id=455&format=jpg&thum...
http://www.eurocase.cz/image.php?id=456&format=jpg&thum...

full atx motherboard, has enough space for 2 way SLI/CF and for 4 fans front/2x side/rear
i already have this case for my core2duo/radeon5750 rig and it works perfectly, but i just wanna check with the community

thank you
revro


Sorry buddy but that looks like so much scrap metal. You should always ask before you buy, id of advised you to get an Antec One Illusion case for not much more money.
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August 16, 2012 10:01:21 PM

Since it works perfectly for you, why are you asking?

To my eye, it looks like it has very restricted airflow.
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August 17, 2012 7:41:35 AM

@geofelt: well i am asking for advices. to me it looks fine, and an inexpensive variant. question is whether 2 gtx 680 would be well cooled there.

@uther39: well actually it doesnot as the little thing down in front portion of case can be easily removed (held by one screw) and then the front fan can blast air directly and unobstructed to graphic cards.
Antec One Illusion looks interesting, but on side of case its just one single opening for fan, ml 5410 has 2.

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revro
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August 17, 2012 2:04:46 PM

revro said:
@geofelt: well i am asking for advices. to me it looks fine, and an inexpensive variant. question is whether 2 gtx 680 would be well cooled there.

@uther39: well actually it doesnot as the little thing down in front portion of case can be easily removed (held by one screw) and then the front fan can blast air directly and unobstructed to graphic cards.
Antec One Illusion looks interesting, but on side of case its just one single opening for fan, ml 5410 has 2.

thank you
revro


I suppose you can install a high speed fan in front, but that would be noisy, and not very effective because there is not enough exit area for good airflow.
Side intakes are not that good. They tend to disrupt the natural front to back, and low to high airflow.
In a good case, you need about the same exit area to exhaust air as you have intake fans. High pressure intake fans can not compensate for inadequate exit area.

If you have the budget for 2 gtx680 in sli, spend a fraction of that on a decent case. In the US, you can buy good cooling cases for about $50. Most any case with two 120/140mm intake fans and an equivalent exit area will give you decent cooling.

If you insist on putting such a high end graphics solution in that case, I would suggest that a single GTX690 would perform about as well, and run much cooler.
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August 17, 2012 3:16:57 PM

i would buy big front and smaller rear fans and let the opening in side be used to release air out of box

anyway in graphic section there was already mentioned that gtx 690 is constructed in a way that central fan is blowing air of one core to rear of case where there is opening in slot to release air, but air to cool other gpu is thrust to inside of case.

therefore 2 cards are better solution also as possibly 2x 690 (4 cores would not be efficient enough to warranty the cost). also not to forget we will soon (september-october) get gtx 685 4gb which will have 10-25% more gpu power compared to gtx 680 and which actually will be able to fully utilize 4gb of vram. so this means cores will have 4gb vram compared with 2gb per core in 690, and up to 20-50+% gpu more power

but i am open. could you recommend some cases, we have following brands available in my country
ACUTAKE , AeroCool Advanced Technologies, AKASA, Antec, Cooler Master, C-TECH, Enermax, EVOLVE Fractal Design, GIGABYTE, HEDY, IN WIN, KME, MaxCube, MODE COM, Spire, TAKE ME, Thermaltake, TRACER

thank you
revro

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August 17, 2012 3:44:29 PM

Many like the cooler master HAF series. For me... meh.
I suggest looking at the offerings from fractal design, and Antec.

Here is one from fractal: Fractal Design Core 3000
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Or, perhaps the Antec Three Hundred. The illusion model is, I think exclusive to newegg which is probably not available to you. The feedback of some 2000+ reviewers is very positive.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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August 17, 2012 4:25:50 PM

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August 17, 2012 4:51:13 PM

Looks good to me too.
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August 17, 2012 5:25:58 PM

two more question to airflow.
first, should the fan on side be sending air to inside of case or outside, to cool graphic card or remove hot air from graphic card surrounding?

second, if i turn the fan cable power connector to motherboard + to - will the fan turn to other direction?
normally i would just switch side of fan, but since i plan to use following fan i would like to know how to position it properly
http://focus.sk/product.asp?ID=16994

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August 17, 2012 5:38:36 PM

revro said:
two more question to airflow.
first, should the fan on side be sending air to inside of case or outside, to cool graphic card or remove hot air from graphic card surrounding?

second, if i turn the fan cable power connector to motherboard + to - will the fan turn to other direction?
normally i would just switch side of fan, but since i plan to use following fan i would like to know how to position it properly
http://focus.sk/product.asp?ID=16994

thank you
revro
I think side fans should be installed to drap air into the case.

A fan will usually have a small arrow on the mounting to indicate the rotation direction of the fan, and the direction of airflow.
I usually use a marker to make it more evident. Tough to do on a black surround.

The fan direction is fixed, and three pin motherboard connectors are keyed to only go in one way.
If you want to reverse the direction of airflow, you need to reverse which side the fan is facing.

The fan you linked looks a bit strange and unusual. I think it will only install one way.
It is also deeper(38mm vs the usual 25mm) so there may be other mounting issues.
A fan with a more conventional box mount might be better.
Look for Yate loon fans, they are good, and they are cheap.
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August 17, 2012 6:31:28 PM

ok i will try to use normal fans, but i wonder when i saw this picture
http://www.antec.com/images/400/302_4.jpg
http://images.anandtech.com/galleries/1703/open_575px.j...
seems like the cage to hold harddrives is turned by 90 degree so air from 2 front fans is hindered to reach in full intensity the 2 graphic cards. yes the cpu, has top, rear and also in addition there is a motherboard fan option, but graphic cards seem to come short.
what do you think?

thank you
revro
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August 17, 2012 6:48:32 PM

revro said:
ok i will try to use normal fans, but i wonder when i saw this picture
http://www.antec.com/images/400/302_4.jpg
http://images.anandtech.com/galleries/1703/open_575px.j...
seems like the cage to hold harddrives is turned by 90 degree so air from 2 front fans is hindered to reach in full intensity the 2 graphic cards. yes the cpu, has top, rear and also in addition there is a motherboard fan option, but graphic cards seem to come short.
what do you think?

thank you
revro


I would install your hard drives on the bottom, so that they do not interfere.
Modern 28nm graphics cards do not need so much cooling. GTX6xxx or amd 7xxx cards.

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