I have been building several rigs with the PhII X4 965BE. It still is a viable processor when O/C'd as mentioned above. And O/Cing it is usually as easy as simply increasing the CPU multiplier. You can turn it into a PhII X4 980 or better without it breaking a sweat. It's a $100 bargain. But if you want one, better hurry. They won't be around (new) much longer.