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May 3, 2012 7:06:38 PM

Hey guys, I admit it, I am a complete n00b when it comes to computers. I plan on getting D3 in the next couple days (been waiting for this game for over a decade). My budget is under $450. I want to be able to run D3 on high settings with over 60fps rate. I've been researching all over the web the past couple days for builds but I have no idea if the hardware is compatible with each other. I am using my LED 32" 720p Hannspree with resolution of 1366 x 768.

Criteria:
would like a SSD...under 100.
60+fps
dedicated graphics card

This is my current build:

MOBO:
ASRock 970 EXTREME3 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard-->$80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU:
Phenom II x4 965 -->$120
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU:
ASUS EAH6670/DIS/1GD5 Radeon HD 6670 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card -->$83
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU:
Antec EarthWatts Green EA-430D Green 430W Continuous power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS 12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply -->$55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


RAM:
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL -->$47
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD:
Crucial M4 CT064M4SSD2 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) -->$81
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Tower:
NZXT GAMMA Classic Series GAMA-001BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case-->$36
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...





My question is will this build be compatible with all the hardware, resolution, etc? I have no idea what CPU is compatible with those motherboards. I don't have too much money and want to keep everything under $450. I am a student and can get Windows 7 64 Bit for ~$65. I have the keyboard, mouse, speakers ready. Please let me know if I can get something better for a couple dollars more. Thank you.

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a b B Homebuilt system
May 3, 2012 7:14:43 PM
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you need an AMD motherboard (am3 or am3+). the one you have is for intel. heres a good one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

that link is for a radeon HD 6770. You can play on "high performance" with that video card according to blizzard.
http://us.battle.net/support/en/article/video-card-supp...

and antec is one of the top brands for power supplies

also people on a budget usually dont get SSD's. The one you have is 64 gigs. Windows 7 = 15-20 gigs, diablo 3 = 12 gigs. that doesnt leave you with much room for anything else.
May 3, 2012 7:21:03 PM

^thanks for the suggestions. Why do I need an AMD Mobo and not intel? also, what cpu would be compatible with the MoBo you linked?
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May 3, 2012 7:24:59 PM

well that leaves over 30 gigs of space left for me to use plus i have an external harddrive. the only thing ill be using this rig for is streaming, browsing the net, doing hw, youtube and dungeon crawling for D3 of course. microsoft office. nothing else really.
a b B Homebuilt system
May 3, 2012 7:28:45 PM

supern0ob said:
^thanks for the suggestions. Why do I need an AMD Mobo and not intel? also, what cpu would be compatible with the MoBo you linked?


you picked a phenom ii x4 965 cpu. that is an AMD cpu. so you need a AMD motherboard. The one i linked works with the phenom ii
May 3, 2012 7:33:42 PM

as for the SSD? Will this be necessary? What are my options then if not, I don't need too much storage space, 300 gigs max. This build is ~$491...starting to creep out of my price range :cry: 
May 3, 2012 7:33:55 PM

Best answer selected by supern0ob.
a b B Homebuilt system
May 3, 2012 7:37:08 PM

You're going to need to pick a different case. that case will not hold that ASRock 970. This case will for only another $6

NZXT GAMMA Classic Series - 35.99
a b B Homebuilt system
May 3, 2012 7:37:26 PM

supern0ob said:
as for the SSD? Will this be necessary? What are my options then if not, I don't need too much storage space, 300 gigs max. This build is ~$491...starting to creep out of my price range :cry: 


since you have another hard drive, you will be fine with the SSD. of course its not necessary, but SSDs are noticeably faster than hard drives.

you might want to spend 5$ more and get this ram. its 1600mhz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and as pezcore said, you need a bigger case. thats a MICRO atx case
a c 113 B Homebuilt system
May 3, 2012 7:42:00 PM

The problem was that you linked an Intel motherboard then linked an AMD CPU, with the word "or" between them as if you thought they were both motherboards.

Generally Intel CPUs are the best bang for the buck right now. You can get a stronger Intel processor at the same price as the AMD one you linked.


An SSD is completely impractical at this budget. You cannot put everything you need on 64GB... it's not even 64GB after formatting. You need to get a regular HDD, or up your budget considerably. SSDs are only going to be practical if your budget is much higher, even if you are not gaming at all.

Here is a complete build.

  • ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
  • XFX HD-677X-ZNLC Radeon HD 6770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
  • AMD Gift - Dirt3 Game Coupon - OEM
  • Pareema 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model MD313C80809L2
  • GIGABYTE GA-H61MA-D3V LGA 1155 Intel H61 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
  • Rosewill Green Series RG530-S12 530W Continuous @40°C, 80 PLUS Certified, Single 12V Rail, Active PFC "Compatible with Core ...
  • Rosewill Blackbone Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
  • Intel Pentium G850 Sandy Bridge 2.9GHz LGA 1155 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2000 BX80623G850
  • Seagate Barracuda ST500DM002 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
    TOTAL: $444.92

    May 3, 2012 7:43:31 PM

    All items edited as suggested. The total adds up to: $502. While this is a good price for a capable computer to meet my needs, is there any CPU a little cheaper than the Phenom II 965? Maybe like 90-$100 that will be able to handle what I will use it for?
    a c 113 B Homebuilt system
    May 3, 2012 7:46:03 PM

    supern0ob said:
    All items edited as suggested. The total adds up to: $502. While this is a good price for a capable computer to meet my needs, is there any CPU a little cheaper than the Phenom II 965? Maybe like 90-$100 that will be able to handle what I will use it for?


    The build I supplied is far more practical and includes a stronger GPU.
    May 3, 2012 7:49:12 PM

    Proximon said:
    The build I supplied is far more practical and includes a stronger GPU.


    I appreciate the help and the links to the complete build. Is there a cheaper HDD alternative as I dont need 500 Gigs of space so we can reduce the price a couple $$$? I need at most 300 gigs.
    May 3, 2012 7:54:20 PM

    ummm...$450 for a gaming pc is really scraping the bottom of the barrel...are you planning on only playing diablo 3 or are you gonna be playing other games as well?
    Reason being 64gb is small. Windows 7 takes up 30gb so 34gb left is really not that much.

    Get a hdd. this will do
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    The Phenom x4 965 is a fine processor. quad core so that has its benefits. Supposed to be better than the fx 4100.

    Your video card really is not that great. With the money I saved you get a 6850.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    So heres what your build would look like. Going a little over budget but its worth it.

    CPU: phenom x4 965/$120
    Motherboard:ASRock 970 EXTREME3/$80
    GPU: 6850 Powercolour/$140
    HDD: Western digital cavier blue 250gb/$65
    PSU: COOLER MASTER eXtreme 500w/$50
    Case: Rosewill R101-P-BK mid tower case/$30
    RAM:G.skill Ripjaw 8gb/$42
    Optical drive: Asus 24x/$18

    Grand total comes to $545

    Coming in a little over,but I think its neccessary.

    Good luck with your build

    Edit: get a different case. The nzxt will do
    a c 113 B Homebuilt system
    May 3, 2012 7:54:21 PM

    No, because the 500GB drive is already discounted in a combo deal. There is no comparable combo deal for 320GB drives, so they end up actually costing more.

    a b B Homebuilt system
    May 3, 2012 7:54:24 PM

    supern0ob said:
    I appreciate the help and the links to the complete build. Is there a cheaper HDD alternative as I dont need 500 Gigs of space so we can reduce the price a couple $$$? I need at most 300 gigs.


    anything under 500 gbs is usually a rip off. you can get a 500gb hard drive at the same price for a 300gb one

    also you might want to spend the extra $$ and get a quad core cpu for diablo 3. People who have played the diablo 3 beta says the game uses all 4 cores.
    May 3, 2012 7:59:35 PM

    I will only be playing Diablo 3. That has really been the only game I've wanted to play. I have only played starcraft 1, diablo 1 and diablo 2 in my life. Proximon, the build you linked me totaled up to ~$560 which is out of my price range. How did you get $444?

    EDIT: my bad proximon, I didn't realize you linked something twice as a combo.
    a c 113 B Homebuilt system
    May 3, 2012 8:02:34 PM

    Combo deals, free shipping. Make sure you don't have anything selected twice.
    May 3, 2012 8:06:54 PM

    Proximon, you have helped me a ton, I am going with your $444 intel build. I just want to clarify for the last time this will be able to run Diablo 3 on high settings? I really like how the entire build is only $444. Anything above $450 is simply out of my price range. I know even just another $100 will get me a much better platform but I am a college student, just got married, got a baby on the way, just bought a car, insurance, rent, school bills, ramen noodle diet...it leaves little left for the niceties. All I want to do is play Diablo 3. I've been waiting for blizzard to make this damn game since middle school.
    a b B Homebuilt system
    May 3, 2012 8:10:25 PM

    Supernoob are you near a Micro Center?
    They have the best deals on processors. I can get you into a much much better system if you have access to a Micro Center...
    May 3, 2012 8:12:25 PM

    I have microcenter right down the street! 2 miles away. LMK!

    Also proximon, I just recalculated the cost of your build and it still comes out to $497. Anything I'm calculating wrong? EDIT: my bad i didnt realize the tower and psu were a combo deal as well!!!
    a c 113 B Homebuilt system
    May 3, 2012 8:16:59 PM

    supern0ob said:
    Proximon, you have helped me a ton, I am going with your $444 intel build. I just want to clarify for the last time this will be able to run Diablo 3 on high settings? I really like how the entire build is only $444. Anything above $450 is simply out of my price range. I know even just another $100 will get me a much better platform but I am a college student, just got married, got a baby on the way, just bought a car, insurance, rent, school bills, ramen noodle diet...it leaves little left for the niceties. All I want to do is play Diablo 3. I've been waiting for blizzard to make this damn game since middle school.


    I honestly don't have any specifics about D3. What I know is that it's the strongest complete system I can do for under $450, for gaming. The parts you can find in these lists:

    CPU
    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-o...

    GPU
    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car...

    PSU
    http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/322966-28-list-recomm...
    May 3, 2012 8:50:48 PM

    I'm going to go to microcenter after work and bring your intel build and see if they can compete with what you have suggested. If not, I'm ready to order the parts and start putting this rig together.
    a b B Homebuilt system
    May 3, 2012 9:05:26 PM

    supern0ob said:
    I have microcenter right down the street! 2 miles away. LMK!

    Also proximon, I just recalculated the cost of your build and it still comes out to $497. Anything I'm calculating wrong? EDIT: my bad i didnt realize the tower and psu were a combo deal as well!!!


    Oh boy! Lets see what we have then... go to Microcenter and get this
    Core i5 2500K - $170
    ASRock Z68 Pro3-M Socket 1155 Z68 mATX Intel - $55 with the Processor combo deal
    8 Gb DDR3 1333 Mhz Kingston HyperX Blu memory - $35
    320 Gb Hitachi 2.5 inch HDD $55
    Cooler Master ATX case w 500Watt PSU Model TC 102- $37
    AMD Radeon HD 7770 1024MB GDDR5 PCIe 3.0 x16 Video Card $118 after $10 MIR
    LG DVD Burner $16

    Grand Total $486

    Here is a link to the combo Deal ad page at Micro Center
    http://viewer.zmags.com/publication/95f7a97d#/95f7a97d/...
    a c 113 B Homebuilt system
    May 3, 2012 9:17:13 PM

    That's before tax and the PSU is incredibly poor. There may be a good deal there, but it's more likely to be that i3 2100 for $90 and one of those H61 boards.
    a b B Homebuilt system
    May 3, 2012 9:25:56 PM

    960t + Gigabyte 970a-ud3 for 139.98 = goodness
    a b B Homebuilt system
    May 3, 2012 9:26:16 PM

    I am getting him an i5 2500K and a Radeon 7770 plus 8 Gb of RAM for $30 more ...
    And yes Cooler Master makes crappy PSUs...
    An upgrade would be the Antec Basiq 450 watt at Micro Center for $35 plus the Linkworld case they have on special for $20
    This adds $13 to the total price for a total of $499
    a b B Homebuilt system
    May 3, 2012 9:31:25 PM

    pacioli said:
    I am getting him an i5 2500K and a Radeon 7770 plus 8 Gb of RAM for $30 more ...
    And yes Cooler Master makes crappy PSUs...
    An upgrade would be the Antec Basiq 450 watt at Micro Center for $35 plus the Linkworld case they have on special for $20
    This adds $13 to the total price for a total of $499


    of course thats a good deal but $510 is way over his budget. he wants to keep it under $450. Hes a newly wed (congratz :D  ), bought a new car, and has bills to pay
    a b B Homebuilt system
    May 3, 2012 9:53:35 PM

    OK Revisions...

    Core i3 2100 - $90
    http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
    ASRock H61M-HVS H61 1155 mATX Intel Motherboard - $50
    http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
    8 Gb DDR3 1333 Mhz Kingston HyperX Blu memory - $35
    http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
    320 Gb Hitachi 2.5 inch HDD $55
    http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
    Antec Basiq 450 watt - $35
    http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
    Linkworld case they have on special for - $20
    http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml... or this case
    http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
    AMD Radeon HD 7770 1024MB GDDR5 PCIe 3.0 x16 Video Card $118 after $10 MIR
    http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
    LG DVD Burner $16
    http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

    Total... $419 after $10 MIR

    You can upgrade case for $17 more
    NZXT Classic Series 210
    http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
    $15 more for this PSU after $8 MIR
    Corsair Builder Series CMPSU-430CXV2 430 Watt - This I recommend...
    http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
    a b B Homebuilt system
    May 3, 2012 10:12:02 PM

    Quote:
    960T will be a better choice.


    Could be. Sadly, it isn't available at most Micro Centers though. It is sold out for a reason :) 

    Edit: It is actually sold out in all locations...
    May 4, 2012 12:12:33 AM

    Thanks for the help guys. I just came back from microcenter. You guys are correct, the 960T is sold out :(  I gave the sales associate my parameters and this is the best he could come up with:

    MoBo+CPU combo deal:
    Gigabyte GA-7LMT-S2P AM3 + MATX-->10.00
    AMD FX4100 Black edition-->99.99

    PSU:
    ADATA 8GB DDR3 1333 DIM KIT-->32.99

    GPU:
    Gigabyte HD6770 1GB D5 -->119.99

    PSU:
    Antec VP450W ATX-->34.99

    HDD
    Western Digital Blue 250GB SATA 6.0 HD-->69.99

    Disx drive:
    Samsung DVD burner-->17.00

    Tower:
    Diablo EVO ATX Mid-tower-->39.99

    TOTAL: $450, ~$420 after MIR

    Do you guys think a FX4100 is a good enough CPU to handle D3? I REALLY want the quad core phenom 960T or 965T. They have the 965T available and it would run me ~$470 after MIR.

    EDIT:
    they have the 965T for 99.99 but it is not included with the Mobo combo deal so I will have to pay $72 for a MoBo by ASRock 970DE3/U3S3

    also pacioli, the HH you linked is running at 5400 RPM. the microcenter sales associate found me a 250GB 7200 rpm for 69.99 but i think there may be a rebate. he offered the western digital blue 250 GB 7200 RPM. also that mobo is out of stock :( 
    May 4, 2012 12:50:49 AM

    ive been reading around and they say the i3-2100, although outdated will be able to handle D3 just fine. what GPU will work coupled with this CPU?
    a b B Homebuilt system
    May 4, 2012 1:00:34 AM

    yea the fx cpu arent too great. that gpu you have right now will work just fine.
    May 4, 2012 1:28:19 AM

    im having trouble deciding on the best CPU then...

    i3-2100 for $90 or the intel pentium 850 w/ 500 gig harddrive combo for $150. will there be any bottle necking using any one of these CPUs? i think i am going with the 7770 GPU, antec 450W. as for the case, both cases pacioli are out of stock. i dont know which one will fit the hardware ill be purchasing.
    a c 113 B Homebuilt system
    May 4, 2012 6:55:43 AM

    The i3 is a stronger processor for sure. If it fits in your budget then go with it.

    The Antec PSU is OK. I haven't been recommending the VP or Basiq line because of my own confusions about individual models.
    May 4, 2012 1:58:46 PM

    Well I have great news guys! My father has an extra copy of Windows 7, tower, and a PSU to give me!! I asked him what make/model the PSU was and he said he doesn't know, just that it is 450W. At least this will leave me with a little more room to work with $$$.

    The absolute best I can do financially would be the 6 core FX6100. Microcenter has a bundle package here:

    http://cart.microcenter.com/cart.aspx?RedirectUrl=http%...

    The GA-78LMT-S2P Socket AM3+ 760G mATX AMD Motherboard is only $10 totaling $120 for CPU and Mobo.

    I will also have more money now for a better GPU! I was looking at the Radeon 6850 from Micro center for $140.

    That puts me at $260 allowing me to grab the $70 Western Digital 250 gig harddrive at 7200RPM totaling $330. I will get the combo PSU and tower you linked proximon at $80. I will also need the RAM which is ~$40 and I will have a $450 Rig that will be able to Max at diablo 3.:


    However, will the $20 8 gigs of ram and the tower and psu that you linked proximon be compatible with this fx6100 build? This is granted that my father's tower and PSU will be adequte, which will save me $80 making the total: $380 rig. Thank you for your imput!
    a b B Homebuilt system
    May 4, 2012 3:00:54 PM

    A note of caution... Make sure that PSU is from arespected manufacturer. There are no-name PSUs that have what is known as a liar label where they say they are 450 watt but the PSU doesn't produce nearly that. They will put a lot of the wattage on the 3v/5v leads of the PSU where it is cheap to do but not needed and say, "look our PSU is 450 watts!" Most of the watts should be on the 12 volt rails.

    Actually, the 4100 will be better than the 6100 for D3. The best proc AMD makes for gaming is the FX 4170.
    However, they are all not as good in gaming benchmarks as the i3 2100 by a large margin.
    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-o...
    Here is the Tom's hierarchy chart if you don't believe me.

    Here is the comparison where the i3 2100 beat out even the FX 8120 by nearly 15% on the minimum FPS and 28% on the max FPS. The 4100 and the 6100 fared even worse...
    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-a...

    The 960T was Thuban based and was a much better design. The newer generation FX chips are handily beaten by the previous generation.

    Now that cash has been freed up from the case/PSU. You can actually pick up the i5 2500K for $170 plus the $50 off a motherboard getting you a nice asrock Z68 motherboard for just $55.

    I'd actually recommend getting the i3 2100 for $90 and the $50 H61 board I recommended and putting more $ on the graphics front with your budget.

    The 6850 is a great choice!
    May 4, 2012 3:21:06 PM

    pacioli said:
    Actually, the 4100 will be better than the 6100 for D3. The best proc AMD makes for gaming is the FX 4170.
    However, they are all not as good in gaming benchmarks as the i3 2100 by a large margin.
    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-o...
    Here is the Tom's hierarchy chart if you don't believe me.

    Here is the comparison where the i3 2100 beat out even the FX 8120 by nearly 15% on the minimum FPS and 28% on the max FPS. The 4100 and the 6100 fared even worse...
    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-a...

    The 960T was Thuban based and was a much better design. The newer generation FX chips are handily beaten by the previous generation.

    Now that cash has been freed up from the case/PSU. You can actually pick up the i5 2500K for $170 plus the $50 off a motherboard getting you a nice asrock Z68 motherboard for just $55.

    I'd actually recommend getting the i3 2100 for $90 and the $50 H61 board I recommended and putting more $ on the graphics front with your budget.



    Wow that's insane! Can you explain to me how the i3 is outperforming the newer gen CPUs with more cores? That defies the laws of economics, physics and all things reasonable to me. Remember I am a noob when it comes to computers but you make a compelling case about the i3-2100. You also need to remember that my resolution is 1366 x 768. For the price, the i3 w/ mobo comes out to be $140 as opposed to the fx6100+mobo for $120. How much of a difference in performance will it be?
    a b B Homebuilt system
    May 4, 2012 3:25:08 PM

    I can't explain why AMD released the FX/Bulldozer series. They should have waited until they had something competitive... Don't misinterpret me... the FX series will not give you a bad experience at all. You can max out the games with either AMD or Intel. It's just that if you are going for more bang for the buck... Intel wins at the moment. I really would like AMD to step up to the price performance leader they have traditionally held. but at the moment Intel is 'King of the Hill' in both Price and performance...

    You could get the dual core Pentium G620 for $50 at microcenter and it would still outperform the FX 6100 in D3. Look at this chart... The G630 beats all the FX series in this comparison...
    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-a...

    That is $50 for a CPU and $50 for the H61 Mobo for a combo of $100...

    In all honesty at 1366 X 768 resolution you won't need to go above a radeon 7770 to max out settings... If you pick up 1920 x 1080p monitor in the future you might have to lower your settings.
    May 4, 2012 3:33:10 PM

    So in the future lets say if I'm doing homework and have microsoft word, 2-3 tabs of google chrome and running diablo 3...do you think this will stress the i3-2100 to the point where it will become sluggish?
    a b B Homebuilt system
    May 4, 2012 3:35:40 PM

    Nope both the i3 2100 and the FX 4100 can handle 4 threads of processing at a time. The i3 2100 is way faster than anything in the FX series at stock speeds.

    The FX series uses modules that contain 2 "cores" per module. So each module acts simultaneously to control it's cores speed. So an FX 4100 has two modules that can handle 4 threads total. This saves real estate on the silicon by having one controller per module controlling 2 cores.

    The intel chips use a tech called hyperthreading that takes one core and allows it to manage 2 threads at a time. So the i3 2100 has two cores that can handle 4 threads total. It is like getting a 4 core CPU for the price of a 2 core. The Pentium G series are basically the i3 2100 with the hyperthreading disabled. This also saves silicon real estate by having just 2 physical cores.

    This is how Intel outcompetes AMD in price. They only have to produce chips with 2 physical cores to get greater performance than AMD's offerings with 4 physical cores on two modules.

    As far as which one works better... the proof is in the pudding... err the benchmarks.

    D3 is optimized for 2 threads so that leaves 2 threads unused and available on each CPU for background processing.

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-a...
    When you overclock the FX chips you can only equal the performance of the i3 2100 with the FX series
    But then you are using almost 3 times as much electricity as the i3 2100

    Did I mention the i3 2100 is really really efficient? As in the CPU uses like 30 watts of power!
    a b B Homebuilt system
    May 4, 2012 3:42:04 PM

    FYI... If you have the budget I'd get the Antec PSU Proximon recommends or the Corsair Builder series I recommended if your dad's gifted PSU is not a recognized brand...

    A bad PSU can take out your whole system and makes for a very bad day...
    May 4, 2012 3:50:10 PM

    i3-2100+H61=140
    Radeon 6850=140 after MIR
    WD Caviar Blue 250gig 7200RPM=70
    Pareema 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM=20
    Total: 370

    What should I get for the PSU because I don't think my dad's PSU will be enough for the GPU? Also is the ram that Proximon linked compatible with this build? I read that the 6850 requires 550W PSU?
    a b B Homebuilt system
    May 4, 2012 4:00:43 PM

    supern0ob said:
    i3-2100+H61=140
    Radeon 6850=140 after MIR
    WD Caviar Blue 250gig 7200RPM=70
    Pareema 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM=20
    Total: 370

    What should I get for the PSU because I don't think my dad's PSU will be enough for the GPU? Also is the ram that Proximon linked compatible with this build? I read that the 6850 requires 550W PSU?


    4 Gb is actually plenty but RAM is so dirt cheap at the moment...
    Spend $15 more and get 8 GB of RAM. It will give a bit of a performance bump. Not much but it is certainly enough to justify the $15 extra...

    As far as ram. You want to make sure it is DDR3 at 1.5v or less and at least 1333 Mhz or greater. Pareema is not the first brand I recommend but that 2x2 kit has very high marks and is cheap.

    Then get the Corsair 430 I suggested or the Antec 430 Proximon suggests.

    The 550 watt suggestion is because some PSUs suck... The two we recommend are great and can handle the 6850 No problem!

    Also, the i3 2100 is a power sipper. Some CPUs use up to 125 watts!
    if you are unsure...
    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i5-overclock-p...
    They built this system with the 430 watt Antec Proximon recomended. It uses the higher end i5 2400 and the Radeon 6870. Those both have a greater power draw than an i3 2100 and a Radeon 6850.
    May 4, 2012 4:14:32 PM

    i3-2100+H61=140
    Radeon 6850=140 after MIR
    WD Caviar Blue 250gig 7200RPM=70
    Pareema 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM=20
    Antec 450W=35

    TOTAL:405 :) 

    ANY OBJECTIONS?!
    a b B Homebuilt system
    May 4, 2012 4:16:13 PM

    supern0ob said:
    i3-2100+H61=140
    Radeon 6850=140 after MIR
    WD Caviar Blue 250gig 7200RPM=70
    Pareema 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM=20
    Antec 450W=35

    TOTAL:405


    Go for it! You won't be disappointed!

    Those HDD prices kill me... I bought a pair of 7200RPM Samsung 1Tb drives for $50 a pop last year....
    !