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May 4, 2012 4:09:51 PM

Comments: Honestly, I am just looking to build a new gaming rig that will last 3-4 years at the resolutions specified below. Wishing I had upgraded sooner, around the initial Sandy Bridge release, but too late for that now. Should I stick with a 2500k or 3570k if gaming is my primary concern? I almost feel that moving to a 2600k, 3770k or 3820 doesn’t seem unreasonable given my budget range and the (what seems to be) ~$100 increase in overall price, but again this will be used mainly for gaming.

Please feel free to argue the validity of whether it’s worth spending a certain amount over another, account for longevity of the system, value of one monitor setup versus another and really just the overall value of your rig versus the average one. (Also, please don’t forget to take PSUs, HDDs, SSDs and optical drives and cases, for that matter, into the equation.)


Approximate Purchase Date: Within the next 2 weeks (unless you feel there is something on the horizon worth waiting for).

Budget Range: Open (Okay, under $4,000 (including monitors), unless you feel more is justified) Before/After Rebates: No preference.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Surfing Net.

Parts Not Required: Keyboard, mouse, speakers, headset, OS.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: No preference

Country: US.

Parts Preferences: No preference.

Overclocking: Yes.

SLI or Crossfire: No preference .

Monitor Resolution: 5760x1080 (possibly a 5760x1200), 2560x1440, 2560x1600 or even 3d 1920x1080 (unfortunately I have never been able to test a Nvidia 3d setup); feel free to state which you believe to be preferential.

Current System: E8400 @ 4.0GHz; HD4850 512MB @ 700/1100MHz; 4GB DDR2 800 @ 1680x1050.



What would you build primarily for gaming if you could? Would you wait for anything? And most importantly...Thank you everyone for your feedback!
May 4, 2012 4:46:01 PM

Personally I'm in the exact same spot as you, with the same budget etc...I've decided to go with one 2560x1600 monitor, (Dell U3011), and a gtx 690 to power it. The 690's are hard to find but shortages are said to be relieved later this month. I also need help on the rest of the system but I think having those two important parts makes it easier to build the rest.

edit: 3 monitor setup looks way to nerdish in my opinion. One big monitor to game, bluray, looks way better.
Also: From reading and research I've done, (I'm not a techie) I will be going with a Samsung 830 256gb ssd ($310) as my primary drive, and a 1tb hdd as data.

Dell Ultrasharp U3011 - $1400
GTX 690 - $1000
Samsung 830 256GB SSD - $310


Your total is already $2410 so you are on a decent pace for what you want to spend
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May 4, 2012 5:27:48 PM

skiim said:
Personally I'm in the exact same spot as you, with the same budget etc...I've decided to go with one 2560x1600 monitor, (Dell U3011), and a gtx 690 to power it. The 690's are hard to find but shortages are said to be relieved later this month. I also need help on the rest of the system but I think having those two important parts makes it easier to build the rest.


Thanks for the recommendations. Yeah my friend swears by his triple monitor 5260x1080 setup, but he upgraded from a similar setup as me, so it's definitely an improvment! I honestly should just get him to let me use it (if I can pry him off), to see if the bezel would bother me. I do hate how much of a premium 2560x1600 and x1440 commands over a 19x12, which btw I remember buying a 19x12 monitor back in, I believe, 2003. I had been looking at the Dell's as well, even a triple monitor IPS with their 23" or 24" models, though Viewsonic recently released a well received 23 IPS (not sure why it's $60 over the 23 Dell though, on Newegg).

As for the gpu's have you weighed the pro/cons of a current/future SLI? You could SLI the 690s or tri-SLI the 680s (I hear quad is generally not worth it). Now I know the market commands the price, but I hate the idea of spending $1,000 for what amounts to a dual-gpu 'hunter' class card. Who knows when we'll see the 685s.

Oh, well, I could stomach either premium however, as they are still valid options.

Thanks again.
(Sent from my smartphone.)
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May 4, 2012 6:10:09 PM

If you want to try 3d, make sure you try it before you buy it. I lucked out, I thoroughly enjoy my AMD 3d setup; but my friend gave it a try on my PC and got headaches from it, so it's not for everybody. Nvidia is typically seen as the leader for 3d, but so far I haven't had any major problems with my AMD setup, just do your homework on the monitor, because the more open tech means you can buy stuff that doesn't work quite right (I have an S23A750D, which works well).

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May 4, 2012 6:51:04 PM

spending 1k on a monitor is absolute waste.better go with a nice eyefinity setup.
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May 4, 2012 7:02:46 PM

This build allows you to push three gtx 680's or three AMD 7970's. Choose your weapon.



http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $199.99 - $179.99 after mail-in rebate FREE SHIPPING
COOLER MASTER HAF X RC-942-KKN1 Black Steel/ Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case

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XFX PRO1250W Black Edition Full Modular 80PLUS Gold PSU Compatible with Intel Core i3, i5, i7 and AMD Phenom, FX (P11250BEFX)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $339.99
ASUS P8Z77 WS LGA 1155 Intel Z77 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard PCI Express 3.0 x16: 4 (x16/x16/0/0 or x16/x8/x8/0 or x8/x8/x8/x8)

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Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770K

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $69.99
Cooler Master TPC 812 RR-T812-24PK-R1 120mm Sleeve with Dual Vertical Vapor Chamber TPC 812 CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel 2011/1366/1155 and AMD FM1/AM3+

Add this fan down below to that CM cpu cooler up above for a "push - pull" effect to help bring cpu temps down even more.

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Cooler Master BladeMaster 120mm PWM High Air Flow Silent Case Fan R4-BMBS-20PK-R0

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G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model F3-1866C9D-8GAB

or...

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G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model F3-2133C11D-8GAO

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Kingston HyperX 3K SH103S3B/240G 2.5" 240GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) (Upgrade Bundle Kit)

or...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $499.99
Mushkin Enhanced Chronos MKNSSDCR480GB-DX 2.5" 480GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

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Sony AD-7280S-0B 24x SATA Internal DVD+/-RW Drive (Black)

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Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit (Full) System Builder DVD 1 Pack



http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E... <---- GTX 680's. Look for one with non reference cooling. Not in stock atm

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E... <----- AMD 7970's. Look for the ones with non reference cooling like the Gigabyte card for example

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E... <----- LED and 120Hz refresh rate monitors...some with 3D.
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May 4, 2012 7:16:59 PM

skiim said:
Personally I'm in the exact same spot as you, with the same budget etc...I've decided to go with one 2560x1600 monitor, (Dell U3011), and a gtx 690 to power it. The 690's are hard to find but shortages are said to be relieved later this month. I also need help on the rest of the system but I think having those two important parts makes it easier to build the rest.

edit: 3 monitor setup looks way to nerdish in my opinion. One big monitor to game, bluray, looks way better.
Also: From reading and research I've done, (I'm not a techie) I will be going with a Samsung 830 256gb ssd ($310) as my primary drive, and a 1tb hdd as data.

Dell Ultrasharp U3011 - $1400
GTX 690 - $1000
Samsung 830 256GB SSD - $310


Your total is already $2410 so you are on a decent pace for what you want to spend


Sorry to laugh but you spend $1000 on a gaming video card and you are afraid that 3 monitors will look too nerdish? :) 
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May 5, 2012 12:02:58 AM

Intel i7 3820 & Asus Sabertooth X79- http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... 600$ The i7 3820 doesn't have the excessive heat issue that Ivy Bridge has which allows you to achieve higher overclocks and better performance.

Mushkin 16gb 1600mhz- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 95$

Antec P280- http://www.amazon.com/Antec-P280-Black-Tower-Computer/d... 120$

Front Intake Fans- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... x2=20$

Noctua NH-D14- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 90$

Kingwin Lazer Platinum 1000W- http://www.amazon.com/KingWin-Platinum-Modular-Supply-L... 208$

Samsung 830 256gb ssd- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 290$

Sony DVD Burner- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 18$

Dell Ultrasharp 23" Monitor- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... x3=750$

Get 2 gtx 680 2gb when they are back in stock

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May 6, 2012 5:29:11 PM

dedekind said:
Sorry to laugh but you spend $1000 on a gaming video card and you are afraid that 3 monitors will look too nerdish? :) 


You can laugh all you want I certainly don't mind. I'd rather have one ultra quality 30" to play bu-rays when I have women over rather than a 3 monitor gaming setup. The monitor is the only thing that is shown in my room, the case and other peripherals are smartly tucked away, and the room looks very sophisticated with one screen and no cables showing. Not everyone is worried about spending $1k on a vid card bud.

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May 6, 2012 5:34:01 PM

and a quality ultra quality is roughly $1k+
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May 6, 2012 6:13:52 PM

hellfire24 said:
spending 1k on a monitor is absolute waste.better go with a nice eyefinity setup.


hellfire24 said:
and a quality ultra quality is roughly $1k+


Hellfire can you tell me about your experience with 2560x1600 res monitors? I've read satements from many others who actually own one and use a 2560x1600 that say its worth every penny...just because you don't want to spend the extra $ doesn't mean it isn't worth it. Sure its cheaper to go your route of eyefinity, but it just doesn't do it for me, sorry. And if you want to do your own research on the Dell Ultrasharp U3011, both reviews and testimonials say its a great value. Instead of saying spending $1k on a monitor is a total waste why don't you explain why? This is in fact the only thing you'll actually be looking at the entire time you are using your PC that OP is spending <$4000 on.

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May 6, 2012 6:21:37 PM

first thing-
expensive is not always better.i know a guy with a hp 30" monitor,he is not a gamer,he is a designer and that's what they are made for.let's take U3011 as an example,it's cons are-
ips which is great for pro works.
30" with 2560x1600 res gives you an amazing experience on a single display.
great colors.
Cons-
$1300 is ridiculous!and especially for a gaming monitor.
7ms *may* cause input lag.something with 5ms or less would be good.
you need serious gpu power.
eyefinity is simply better because-
you get a tag of *multi monitor setup* :lol: 
better gaming experience then a single display.
cheaper way cheaper then U3011.
over all more economic and better performer(higher resolutions).
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May 6, 2012 6:57:29 PM

You are completely wrong about input lag in general, but it is true that the U3011 has a lot of it.
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May 6, 2012 8:51:57 PM

azeem40 said:
You are completely wrong about input lag in general, but it is true that the U3011 has a lot of it.


You're definitely correct there, as there is an 80ms lag from when an event happens to when a human perceives it.

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May 6, 2012 11:54:04 PM

opalarrow said:
You're definitely correct there, as there is an 80ms lag from when an event happens to when a human perceives it.


Thatstill wouldn't mean your eye cant tell the difference between a 60ms input lag and a 2ms lag, it just means it sees them 80ms from when they happen.
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May 7, 2012 1:50:42 AM


" *Single (Closest thing to perfection) Apple Thunderbolt Display MC914LL/A.... this monitor is like the combination of the best 1080p monitor in the world with the resolution of the monitor above.... the problem? the resolution, instead of being 2560x1600 is 2560 x 1440, that means that the aspect ration is 16:9 instead of 16:10 like the HP ZR30w Black 30... this isnt so bad but, the best aspect ration to play will be 16:10 but 16:9 is good too, and apple cinema display is BY FAR the best monitor in the 2560x1600/1440 resolutions! "


Frozonic, Can you talk a bit more about the mac display and why you like it so much? Engadget has a pretty detailed review here http://www.anandtech.com/show/4832/the-apple-thunderbol... but I'm missing the big deal I think.
Reading more reviews it seems it makes a lot of sense if you own apple devices...still trying to connect the dots to the OP tho.

OP I'd recommend against the Apple monitor for sure, but the HP ZR30w is def a good monitor along with the dell u3011. And just remember to research each part you decide on before buying as lots of the people trying to help seem to have misguided information.
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May 7, 2012 2:43:05 AM

2591745,16,1073075 said:
hi, i think no body here has been able to help you, specially the idiot who suggested you to buy a i7 3820

What is wrong with an i7 3820? By no means is it a bad CPU and it runs cooler than Ivy Bridge when overclocked which means it can be overclocked higher and perform better than the 3770k that you listed.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/551?vs=523

Please don't try to point out those synthetic benchmarks and just look at the games since that will be the most stress he will put on the CPU. Again remember that when overclocked and the voltage is increased Ivy Bridge temperatures skyrocket unlike the i7 3280.

That is not even mentioning its lower price.

Even though the i7 3820 is not a "k" CPU it still can overclock 5ghz and above unlike Ivy Bridge which is unable to be overclocked to 5ghz on air.

With all that said how is suggesting an i7 3820 make me an "idiot"?
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May 7, 2012 3:33:45 AM

It's alright...no hard feelings.

The 2500k is cheaper and offers 99% the performance gaming I agree with that but it doesn't have PCIE 3.0. And since the OP is going to have a very high end video card setup and play at really demanding resolutions it will make a difference over PCIE 2.0. The 3930k would be overkill on a system like this since the OP is just gaming. And I would agree with you about Ivy Bridge but it is a little iffy if it can even hit 4.6ghz- http://techreport.com/articles.x/22833/2 (go through this whole article and make sure to read the conclusion) -That is an open test bench with (of course) plenty of airflow.

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/intel_corei7_37... ---> http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/intel_corei7_37... We are talking +/- 1-2 FPS here overclocked and stock (Ivy bridge @ 4.7ghz i7 3820 @ 5.025ghz both cooled by the Corsair H100). Again since the CPU's are about equal why would you spend an extra 50$?

OP if you do go with the i7 3770k DO NOT increase the voltage one bit. It will cause a huge temperature spike and will not be stable.
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May 7, 2012 4:29:08 AM

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well i agree with you in the 1-2 +/- fps but thats only in 1680 x 1050 at 1080p they are the same and at 2560 x 1600 things get real, and thats where the i7 3770k will shine, and lets not forget that the OP might go with 5670x 1080 resolution... but anyways, its his call... and how can the i7 3820 overclock so high? why can it overclock higher than a i7 3960x? isnt the multiplier in the 3820 locked?

anyways, i still advise the OP to get a i7 3770k, after all, its newer technology and i am sure that if he is carefull he could overclock his to a stable 4.8.... and lets clear something out, this guy is going with dual GTX 680, why would he need to overclock his cpu anyway? its not like a diference between 75fps and 80fps is noticiable, and if he really needs a fps boost then it will be wiser to overclock the cards and not the cpu, and a stock 3770k is fast enough to not bottleneck a pair of gtx 680, besides, overclocking reduces substantialy the processors life, Op: i recomend you to get the build i made for you and overclock the cpu only to 4.0Ghz and the GPU´s core clock to 1120Mhz, that should be more than enough for 2560x1600 gaming for a loooong time, and if your pc starts to get slow oc your cpu to 4.6 and get a third gtx 680 (they should be selling for 200$ by then)

It is not totally locked it is up to 42x. Then the base clock can be changed and so on and so forth.

At higher resolutions the CPU isn't really challenged that much more. It is mainly the graphics card. Now if one is playing online then that will put quite a bit of stress on the CPU. But again a 4.5ghz OC for the i7 3770k is about all you can do (If your lucky you don't have to touch the voltage).

If CPU doesn't matter much why not get a i7 3820 since it is 50$ cheaper and a little bit worse at most.

I do agree with overclocking to 4.0ghz (4.3-4.4ghz at most) if the op decides to get the 3770k
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May 7, 2012 4:42:42 AM

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the only 2 apple products i own are an iphone and a ipad 3, i said the apple cinema display is so perfect because i have tried it, my brother has one and i ve played crysis 2 on it at 2560 x 1440 with high details on a triple gtx 480 set up and i was shocked, the colors on that thing were beutifull, the only downside i saw was that the aspect ration was 16:9 instead of 16:10 wich is better suited for games but, it was still great


Oh ya, I'm sure it looked good. It just doesn't make much sense strictly as a gaming monitor. If you're recommending to someone who's paying $1k plus for a monitor you need more than that I think. Without a macbook it loses its practicality imo.
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May 7, 2012 6:27:58 AM

skiim said:
Thatstill wouldn't mean your eye cant tell the difference between a 60ms input lag and a 2ms lag, it just means it sees them 80ms from when they happen.



We aren't talking about 2ms vs 60ms. A difference of that little may be discernable in a side by side comparison, but otherwise, the brain becomes used to it. Here, check this out, if you have seven minutes to spare.

http://www.wimp.com/livepast/
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May 7, 2012 1:46:52 PM

opalarrow said:
We aren't talking about 2ms vs 60ms. A difference of that little may be discernable in a side by side comparison, but otherwise, the brain becomes used to it. Here, check this out, if you have seven minutes to spare.

http://www.wimp.com/livepast/


That's neat but when it comes to gaming on a monitor with that kind of input lag it produces a ghosting effect, which can be very noticable.
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May 7, 2012 5:29:39 PM

First off thank you all for the responses. I will be holding off on buying any parts, until I can get my hands on some 680s, or what's the point? But this list so far:

GPU: 2x GTX 680s (more or less whichever decently rated brand I can find first, and add the third when my fps starts dropping below 60)

PSU: 1250W XFX Pro Series (for a 3xSLI oc'd setup this seems about right, and I probably shouldn't go lower)

SSD: 256GB Samsung 830 (it seems this edges out the Crucial m4 the majority of the time and also outperform it's own 512GB version or am I missing something? is one better than the other from a gaming perspective?)

Decision Time:
RAM: 16GB CORSAIR Vengeance vs Mushkin Enhanced Blackline (I know RAM usually performs very similarly, will the low pro have a harder time dispensing heat if it is oc'd as well?)

CPU: 3770k vs 3820 (alright, oc'd using a similar cooling setup, which will out perform the other at 2560x1600+ resolutions, I am assuming they will be more or less on par. With that said is buying into the LGA2011 socket worth anything over the 1155, now that we have 3.0 on both? The longevity on Intel sockets is crap, but the 2011, prolly has a another year over 1155?)
***This is the main issue I am still hung up on, btw. So the pro/cons of each cpu and chipset is greatly appreciated.***

Monitors: Single 30": HP ZR30w vs Dell U3011

Still completely undecided as for the setup (3 v 1 monitor), but I appreciate the recommendations for each. As for a triple monitor setup however, one thing remains: 2d v 3d. Is there anywhere one can go to actually test out Nvidia 3d? Oh, and I don't mind the triple monitor setup looking completely nerdish, as this will be setup in the office (away from judgmental eyes Skiim, so no worries there, lol).

Thank you all once again.
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May 7, 2012 5:53:44 PM

I picked up 16GB of Corsair Vengeance 1600. I've yet to receive them, but looking at some of the user comments the kit seems to perform very well.

As for your debate of 3770K vs. 3820, I'd like to point out that the debate has been pretty much settled already. You plan on buying 2 x GTX 680. The Z77 platform is only feasible for 2 GPUs; many boards have a 3rd PCIe slot but they run at 4x. Meanwhile, X79 has a ridiculous number of lanes as to not starve the third card of bandwidth.

So the way I see it, if you plan on adding a third 680 sometime then X79 should be the only option.
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May 7, 2012 5:58:24 PM

eddieroolz said:
I picked up 16GB of Corsair Vengeance 1600. I've yet to receive them, but looking at some of the user comments the kit seems to perform very well.

As for your debate of 3770K vs. 3820, I'd like to point out that the debate has been pretty much settled already. You plan on buying 2 x GTX 680. The Z77 platform is only feasible for 2 GPUs; many boards have a 3rd PCIe slot but they run at 4x. Meanwhile, X79 has a ridiculous number of lanes as to not starve the third card of bandwidth.

So the way I see it, if you plan on adding a third 680 sometime then X79 should be the only option.



Ah, thank you very much. I had actually been leaning towards the 3820, and that solidifies it. Thank you.

Well with the 670s soon to be released and the lack of 680s, if more review come out confirming these benchmarks, does anyone think I'm doing myself a disservice by not waiting on the 680s and just grabbing 670s?

Seems to put them within 5% frequently, I would hope that SLI and tri-SLI would keep/ close this gap even. And I get to enjoy my build sooner, lol. I love that they didn't gimp the 670s on ram like they did the 570s.
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/4710/nvidia_geforce_g...

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May 7, 2012 6:45:55 PM

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well, if you are going to buy an X79 plataform then go with i7 3930k, its almos 200$ more expensive than the i7 3820 but you will have your money worth in the long run, at first they will perform very similar, but next year when the xbox 720 and ps4 get released there will be more heavy games for pc, and they will make full use of the six cores in the i7 3930k, it overclocks very good and has decent temperatures.

as for the SSD, get the m4, its has the 95% of performance of the samsung 830 but its 100$ cheaper

Go with corsair vengance LOW PROFILE ram, that will asure you that any cpu cooler will be compatible with your motherboard and you will not run into space problems when you set up the ram

get the dell u3011, look at the color quality of the dell u2711 (same monitor expect is a bit smaller) http://www.anandtech.com/show/4832/the-apple-thunderbol...


I actually just price compared the m4 w. the 830 and came to the same conclusion. So I will be going with the m4. I was also looking up reviews on the RAM, and will again be going with your low-pro recommendation. As for the CPU, I think I'll stick with the 3820 for now, when those 2 extra cores become relevant, the IB-Es will be out, or the next big thing.

Without a doubt I will go for the U3011 if I go single monitor, that being said, what is your overall recommendation for a 3 monitor setup among those linked below (2d, I'm hesitant of getting the 3d's without being able to test them, either 1080 or 1200). I believe it'd be best to stick to around a 23" in those resolutions? Could anyone explain to me why the 2nd LG commands a $100 premium over the other? I saw a lot of good reviews for it, but am not understanding of the cost increase.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...
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May 7, 2012 7:29:46 PM

harbingr said:
Well with the 670s soon to be released and the lack of 680s, if more review come out confirming these benchmarks, does anyone think I'm doing myself a disservice by not waiting on the 680s and just grabbing 670s?


I also took a look at the TweakTown benchmarks.

The GTX 670 does look to be a beast - or in Tom's words, an even more agile Hunter. I think that if it was priced at $400, you'd be doing yourself a great service by grabbing a pair of 670s. That alone would save you $200, which can be put towards a i7-3930K or a future 670.

Before you rush out and buy a 670 though, wait for the NDA to expire. I'm sure Tom's and Anand will surely be posting their benchmark results.
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May 7, 2012 11:58:42 PM

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well, its a good thing you choose the m4, but i strongly recomend you to get the 3930k, please trust me, the 2 extra cores WILL become relevant soon or later, and its not like you are going to buy a new plataform every year, or....will you? and IB-e will be just like regular IB, hot...REALLY hot and not good overclocker, i suggest you to trade a bit of performance a lot a reliability

my recomendation for 3 monitor set up will be 3x ASUS VG Series VG278H Black 27" but they are ridicusly expensive (670$ each) but they will provide you with THE BEST 3d experience that any monitor can give you, why? because of the Nvidia 3d vision 2 technology , here is more info about it: http://www.nvidia.com/object/product-geforce-3d-vision2... i have used this set up in my cousin house and i can tell you, it totally rocks, i have been able to compare these monitors with standard (non 3d vision2) monitors and there is a LOT of diference

if you want something cheaper go with 3x LG D2342P http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... they are good enough to provide you with an incredible 3D image but not as good as the monitors i linked above

if you want something that look almost like a U3011 (expect for the resolution of course) you will need a IPS monitor, the best deal i was able to find in a 23" ips monitor was this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PS: i reaaaaally recomend you to get a i7 3930k, trust me on that, you wont regret it, your money will be well spent


3930 sounds like something to look into anyhow. You should read reviews/pros n cons etc and make a decision. I've always felt you should try to put your $ towards things you will put to use immediately rather than the future. The mobo makes sense as you are able to get a 3rd gpu and take immediate advantage anytime.The 3930 might make sense too but in a year or more when you can see the benefits, there's a good chance that $200 is wiser spent somewhere else.
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May 8, 2012 12:27:50 AM

I'm saying by next year when, as you said, he will be able to reap the benefits of the 3930, there will be somewhere better to put it. Just seems like a long ways to see a difference for a $200 stinger. I never said its dumb, just he should think about it.

ps lol at spended ;) 
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May 8, 2012 3:33:46 AM

Just thought I'd add a link if anyone here is interested. I finally found a list of places that allow one to try out Nvidia 3d Vision:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-test-drive-cente...

Lucky for me, there's one about 10 minutes from where I live, so I'll will be headed there in the next couple days to try the thing out.
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May 8, 2012 4:55:58 AM

harbingr said:
Just thought I'd add a link if anyone here is interested. I finally found a list of places that allow one to try out Nvidia 3d Vision:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-test-drive-cente...

Lucky for me, there's one about 10 minutes from where I live, so I'll will be headed there in the next couple days to try the thing out.



Please let me know your impressions!
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May 19, 2012 10:15:32 AM

Best answer selected by harbingr.
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