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May 5, 2012 5:13:13 AM

first of all I would like to say thank you very much because these forums have helped me so much on my very first build.
i am gonna list what my build is and would like to have your feed back on it. ie. do the parts work well together, where can i save and if i picked a bad part.

CPU: i5 3570K http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

MOBO: asrock Z77 Pro4-M
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

SSD: Micro Center 120GB http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

Case: i could really use help here cuz i just kinda picked lol . Diablotek EVO Mid Tower ATX Computer Case

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

RAM: crucial 8 g http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

PSU: Antec High Current Gamer Series 520W ATX Power Supply? i plan on OC later when i have more money to buy fan

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

GPU: this is where i really need help. i have been researching this for a bit too long. i really dont know what the difference between the following is and which would be best. If you can help me decide please list them from what u think is best to last.


1. MSI N560GTX-Ti-M2D1GD5/OC NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1024MB GDDR5 PCIe 2.0 x16 Video Card $220
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

2. MSI N560GTX-TI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti Twin Frozr II 1024MB GDDR5 PCIe 2.0 x16 Video Card $230
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

3. EVGA 01G-P3-1563-AR GeForce GTX 560 Ti SuperClocked Video Card - 1GB, GDDR5 $225
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

As you can see most of my build ( or all) is from micro center. I dont plan on OC now but i will will later when i get some more cash.

Thank so much to every one who has already helped me and to hose who will.

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May 5, 2012 6:03:34 AM

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml... $109.99 - $59.99 if purchased with the i5 3570K processor
ASRock Z77 Pro4-M 1155 mATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=Z77%20Pro4-... <----- another look at that board


http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml... $59.99
Antec High Current Gamer Series 520W ATX Power Supply

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml... $39.99
8GB DDR3-1600 (PC3-12800) CL9 U-DIMM Desktop Memory Kit (Two 4GB Memory Modules)
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May 5, 2012 6:17:14 AM

before you order the ram check the mb vendors web page to see that the ram is on it. these new intel x68 and z77 are picky on the ram you use. if this is your first build i look into a larger case. easer to fit the mb and cable management in. i got an antech 100 gaming case and i have to pull one of the fane out before i could slid my asus mb in and connect the wires right. it was a tight fit. also spend a few extra buck on an after market cpu heat sink the intel heat sink have plastic feet and they suck on getting them to lock in. i keep the cpu heat sinks as back up if the main fans i have on my cpu fail. it nice to use a metal plat with four good screws to hold a heat sink onto a cpu.
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May 5, 2012 6:56:24 AM

looks like a good first build to me i would add and change a few things though my links are from newegg so you'll need to check if micro center.has it if you prefer to only buy from there
CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819115072
ODD: Samsung DVD Burner
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16827151244

RAM: G.Skill RipjawsX 8GB @1600mhz CL9
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820231428

Case: COOLER MASTER Storm Scout
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: Thermaltake TR2 TRX-650M
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817153116

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master V6 GT
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16835103089
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May 5, 2012 7:01:28 AM

bigcyco1 said:
looks like a good first build to me i would change a few things though my links are from newegg so you'll need to check if micro center.has it if you prefer to only buy from there

RAM: G.Skill RipjawsX 8GB @1600mhz CL9
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820231428

Case: COOLER MASTER Storm Scout
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: Thermaltake TR2 TRX-650M
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817153116

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master V6 GT
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16835103089

That G.skill RAM has high heat spreaders which is the last thing you want if you plan on using an after market cpu heat sink...which the OP obviously does.

That case has no front 3.0 USB ports, which the Z77 boards all come with a front 3.0 USB header.

You want a 750w psu to push two of those cards, not to mention that Thermaltake you posted would never be recommended on this site by anyone that knows their psu's.

The CM V8 was an over priced paper weight when it first came out on the market some years ago, and it hasn't improved with time. That and if you tried to fit that CM V8 inside that Scout you would lose the use of at least one case fan due to it's size.
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May 5, 2012 7:11:45 AM

Why_Me said:
That G.skill RAM has high heat spreaders which is the last thing you want if you plan on using an after market cpu heat sink...which the OP obviously does.

That case has no front 3.0 USB ports, which the Z77 boards all come with a front 3.0 USB header.

You want a 750w psu to push two of those cards, not to mention that Thermaltake you posted would never be recommended on this site by anyone that knows their psu's.

The CM V8 was an over priced paper weight when it first came out on the market some years ago, and it hasn't improved with time. That and if you tried to fit that CM V8 inside that Scout you would lose the use of at least one case fan due to it's size.
Lol say what well i beg to differ i have NH-D14 and use that ram with no issues the case i agree to you on it was a mistake on my part i added link to wrong one thanks for pointing that out this is one i meant http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119245 still not the best choice as for the v8 never mentioned it you must of read it wrong and that psu worked fine for me for six months before i gave it away so it cannot be all that bad i agree it is not the best psu but hes on a budget anyway op I am on my 4th. build right now, so i am no expert far from it but i generally know what to look for and I try to keep myself up to date with tech stuff. so you have no worries although it's really not a good idea to skimp on psu so get this if you can afford it http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] CatId=2534
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May 5, 2012 9:08:58 AM

Also the GPU listed i have 2 MSI N560GTX-TI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti Twin Frozr II 1024MB GDDR5 PCIe 2.0 x16 Video Card in SLI and they perform about the same to a single GTX 590 so i would recommend you get it. If your not a AMD hater you could also go with the 7850 if you look here it actually better supposedly http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car... Also i could care less how people would recommend PSU on any site and allot of the members are little snot nose kids who think they know it all and troll on different sites! Here what you need to know As much as the power (Watts) requirement matters, the current requirement, measured in Amps is as important if not even more important. This is especially true if you have a or several dedicated video card(s). As a general rule of thumb, you’re aiming for the highest number on the 12V line.Power Supplies that are certified 80 PLUS have been independently tested for their efficiency. Now, there are 4 different 80 PLUS certifications, depending on how efficient the power supply is:

80 PLUS: The power supply is at least 80% efficient at 20%,50% and 100% load
80 PLUS Bronze: The power is at least 82% efficient at 20% and 100% and 85% efficient at 50% load.
80 PLUS Silver: The power is at least 85% efficient at 20% and 100% and 88% efficient at 50% load.
80 PLUS Gold: The power is at least 87% efficient at 20% and 100% and 90% efficient at 50% load.

The 80 PLUS and highercertifications are the way to go when you are looking for an efficient power supply.

Do not trust specifications such as “Efficiency: 80% to 85% Efficiency Typical” that are not 80PLUS certified. 80 PLUS is an independent standard test. No 80 PLUS and “Efficiency: 80% to 85% Efficiency Typical” means that it is 80% to 85% efficient, according to the manufacturer that is, using their own in-house test, which may or may not so much represent real efficiency.Overclocking, or raising a part (CPU, Video Card, RAM) frequency beyond the manufacturer set frequency to gain extra performance, is a strain for a power supply. If you overclock, it is even more important to have a high-quality power supply that can handle the extra load.

As the frequency increase, so does the power consumed by the overclocked part. If you raise the voltage, the power consumption goes up even more, putting even more stress on your power supply. How much is hard to quantify, as every CPU and video card have different power requirements. However, it is not rare to see the power consumption go up by 50W, 100W, 150W or even more, depending on your computer setup.

I simply recommend that if you overclock, make sure that your power supply is powerful enough to handle the extra load. If you have a cheap power supply or are already close to its limit, do not overclock as you’re putting your power supply and possibly your computer on the line!
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May 5, 2012 4:53:03 PM

Why-me got my attention to the fact that 3570k is back in stock at microcenter so am going with that to get the bundle with asrock z77 pro M for $50 off. good choice?

also you changed my ram because of heat spread? and the 520 psu is better thann the 600? I am not doubting what your advising am just trying to learn myself :) 

still need a good case in the $40 range. Also I plan on buying just one video card and still unsure what the best of the above is.

thank you for your help so far.
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May 5, 2012 5:06:13 PM

yahiax said:
Why-me got my attention to the fact that 3570k is back in stock at microcenter so am going with that to get the bundle with asrock z77 pro M for $50 off. good choice?

also you changed my ram because of heat spread? and the 520 psu is better thann the 600? I am not doubting what your advising am just trying to learn myself :) 

still need a good case in the $40 range. Also I plan on buying just one video card and still unsure what the best of the above is.

thank you for your help so far.

That Antec psu is a way more solid psu vs that Thermaltake you have up there not to mention it will easily handle a single gtx 560 ti and leave you plenty of juice to spare.

I threw the RAM in there just to give you another option to look at.

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml... $49.99
Asgard Pro ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

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May 5, 2012 5:35:51 PM

Thank you why-me. I looked in to the ram u recommended and decided to go with that. googled 1600 vs 1333 lol. and also changed the power supply which will hopefully be able to handle even the OC system.

I welcome any other input about the system so far esp if some else wants to recommend a case or solve my video card dilemma.
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May 10, 2012 1:38:54 AM

Best answer selected by yahiax.
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May 10, 2012 1:38:58 AM

thank for you help. am almsot done with my build. once am done i will post a pic :) 
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