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[Prebuilt/Upgrade] Budget Build, help on if enough power

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May 5, 2012 9:42:28 AM

I am on a budget, not exactly anything in stone but def. lower than $500 [College student].

I do IT but it's more software than anything but can still get around a little with hardware. I saw this Desktop listing on Tigerdirect for $350, http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/ite...




mobo: Not exactly sure..
cpu: AMD Athlon II X4 645 3.1GHz
ram: 4GB DDR3 (Upgrade-able to 8GB)
gpu: NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE Graphics (Garbage I hear)
psu: 220 Watt

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit



1. I would like to upgrade to 8GB Ram if I can find a cheap listing after I figure out what type I need.

2. Upgrade the GPU to MSI R6450, someone that bought that computer recommended it as it only uses 18 watts of power so no need to upgrade the psu (less money for me to spend!) Said it was on the site for sale so guessing one of these two - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/sea...


Looking at the specs though I still have no clue how to tell how much power say the GPU takes up - and would it always be 18 watts or would it fluctuate. I just want to make sure I will have enough stable power before buying it and the parts.

I would rather not build the whole pc myself for personal reasons. While I will be playing an occasional game (older games like RTCW, Red Alert 3, Red Faction lol, no COD, Skyrim, Battlefield..etc etc), mostly for coding and photoshop type stuff with lots of windows and tabs open.


Also note this is a slim case. Comes out under $450 roughly, doable for me and probably my limit atm. Is this a good idea or possibly a better GPU to upgrade to without needing a PSU upgrade?
May 5, 2012 10:04:44 AM

nVidia graphics listed in the build is built in to the mb north bridge chip , and that means its certainly not a good motherboard . I


If I was you I'd consider a build based on the AMD Llano cpu which has excellent graphics built in . Better than the card you are suggesting buying
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?I...
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May 5, 2012 10:35:50 AM

That looks...pretty nice. Looking through the items some comments worry me but for that price it's pretty solid!
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May 5, 2012 12:11:15 PM

You can get a better custom system for the same money. Not sure about the case though

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7MfP

EDIT: oh, and it's missing a DVD drive, that's $20. If your budget is $450 you could still add a 6670 for crossfire :lol: 
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May 5, 2012 4:34:39 PM

Slim case strongly restrict your future upgrade options, I would not get it.

Teh base parts you have (MD Athlon II X4 645 3.1GHz, ram: 4GB DDR3) are not bad.

Defer the upgrade to 8GB, 4GB is fine.

The 220w PSU will be a problem. Replacing the PSU on a slim case is a pain, the PSU is not the ATX standard size for PSUs so you have to hunt down a quality unit that fits.

About the strongest video upgrade you can install is a LOW PROFILE HD 6670. Here is a video card ref: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car...

The suggested HD6450 is a home theater card, it is not designed to game well and is not a good choice for a gaming system. Check a few benchmarks of 6670 vs. 6450
http://www.hwcompare.com/10822/radeon-hd-6450-oem-vs-ra...
http://techgage.com/article/amds_sub-100_line-up_radeon...

But again, a system with a full size case and a 300w+ PSU will be much much better for gaming because of the improved graphics options.
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May 5, 2012 4:48:55 PM


There is a PhII 965BE combo with a Gigabyte 880G AM3+ motherboard.

The IGP is not as good as the HD6530D on the APU but it is much better than the 6150.


edit - - the combo was around $370




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May 5, 2012 5:06:51 PM

Google a few A6 benchmarks before you buy an AMD A6 or A8 based system. If the integrated video is strong enough then this makes a lot of sense. If you are going to add better video then skip A6, A8 because you are paying for the strong integrated video and not really using it. A $100 video card far out performs any solution that uses the integrated video with or without one of the cards that lets the integrated video work as a 'helper'.

A6 makes a lot of sense as home theater. Or low end gaming where you will never move to midrange gaming.

The upcoming amd trinity cpus (A10, etc.) will be stronger. They come out in a month or so, and will be priced where you would buy an A10 based system in a few months.

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May 5, 2012 5:46:31 PM

Yeah, the slim case def. is a minus.

I really like the link FinneousPJ posted for that build after going through it, and for the missing DVD probably get the Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS or Sony AD-7280S-0B for $18 bucks for a total of $370.92.


So with this build http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7MPa once it comes in and I put it all together it will run (and have enough power)? Excluding OS, mouse, keyboard, moniter as I already have those. Just want to be sure as I'm not good at this stuff and really appreciate all the advice so far!
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May 5, 2012 6:07:02 PM

Clemens_25 said:
Yeah, the slim case def. is a minus.

I really like the link FinneousPJ posted for that build after going through it, and for the missing DVD probably get the Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS or Sony AD-7280S-0B for $18 bucks for a total of $370.92.


So with this build http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7MPa once it comes in and I put it all together it will run (and have enough power)? Excluding OS, mouse, keyboard, moniter as I already have those. Just want to be sure as I'm not good at this stuff and really appreciate all the advice so far!


Power supply in that case is terrible. Read reviews at newegg. Get a case w/o PSU or just plan on immediately replacing the PSU, for example with antec for $40. Spending combined $30 for case and PSU gets you a $15-20 PSU, and they are not good.

example from reviews "Pros: I'm very impressed with Newegg and Rosewill customer service, after my review of the PSU breaking two motherboards, they sent me a courtesy PSU for free without RMA hassle, and of course Newegg is replacing the motherboard. I'm thoroughly impressed!"
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May 5, 2012 6:30:02 PM

That's cool. Normally I'd recommend getting a PSU and case separate, but I'd heard Rosewill had stepped up their game and this will be a super low power system anyhow.
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