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GTX 480 for 249.00 brand new.

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March 1, 2012 3:48:33 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I am in the market for a new GPU, i have a budget of about 260.00 bucks (selling my old gtx 465 for 100, and have 160 saved up).

Should i roll with this beast? I realize it uses a lot of power and runs hot, but my PSU is sufficient and my case is well ventilated. Would you suggest another card in the 260 dollar range?

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a c 105 U Graphics card
March 1, 2012 3:57:23 AM

way too friggin much! you can do a lot better for your money.
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March 1, 2012 4:01:41 AM

How is a gtx 480 for 249.00 not a good price? Its faster (slightly) than a gtx 570 and MUCH faster than a 6950. GTX 570's sell for 340.00 bucks (the quality OEM ones with the blower coolers ).
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March 1, 2012 4:04:36 AM

I mean just look at that, ive never seen a more quality looking GPU ever made. I guarantee it costs EVGA more to make the 480 than the 580.....a lot more.
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March 1, 2012 4:18:09 AM

I saw those and thought it was a great deal as well. I really can't figure out the logic in a 6950 over this 480 for that price, or even a 6970 for that matter. If you got the setup for it and are looking for an upgrade I really don't see how purchaseing this would be a mistake.

Go for it I say..

Edit: as for quality, there were some definite design flaws in the gf100. In architecture and in cooling. That's why they only ever enabled 480 of the cores rather than the full 512. It's still a fast card for $250, and will give you no issues until your next upgrade in a well ventilated case.
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March 1, 2012 4:21:05 AM

Im actually torn on this and xfire 6850's. The 6850's are about 30 dollars more. I dunno, i just LOVE the looks of that 480 lol. It just screams quality to me. Even tho it is a space heater lol.

I dunno, i gotta decide soon tho before i spend my money on food and stuff lol.
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March 1, 2012 4:22:49 AM

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GTX 480 is crap just wait for the new cards or get a 6950 or GTX 560ti


How do you figure lol? Yes its hot and it consumes a lot of power, but the card itself performs really well still and is made extremely well. Ive never seen an amd card built even half as good as this lol.
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March 1, 2012 4:30:40 AM

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Well when a GTX 560ti can Overclock faster than a GTX 480 and does it silent which the GTX 480 will never be the 560ti is a far better card with better tessellation to boot and you cannot OC a GTX 480 they are just to hot and loud.



I'd really like to see a reference to a 560ti overclocked outperforming a gtx 570. I would be quite impressed.
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March 1, 2012 4:36:20 AM

A 560 ti is in the same category as the 470, not the 480...

LongpastPNR, i appreciate the replies but you should not really comment on something you know nothing about.
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March 1, 2012 4:38:48 AM

All blower style coolers are slightly louder than cards that exhaust heat back into the case, but that is the trade off you make. I personally prefer blower style exhausts that vent heat out of my case than having it slightly quieter and having it spewed back into the case.

The 480's blower cooler is no louder than any other blower on the market, easily quieted with a proper fan profile via afterburner.
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March 1, 2012 4:39:12 AM

lemlo said:
I saw those and thought it was a great deal as well. I really can't figure out the logic in a 6950 over this 480 for that price, or even a 6970 for that matter. If you got the setup for it and are looking for an upgrade I really don't see how purchaseing this would be a mistake.

Go for it I say..

Edit: as for quality, there were some definite design flaws in the gf100. In architecture and in cooling. That's why they only ever enabled 480 of the cores rather than the full 512. It's still a fast card for $250, and will give you no issues until your next upgrade in a well ventilated case.



http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/293?vs=309
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March 1, 2012 4:40:11 AM

Whats your point? You can also overclock the 480, you know...
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March 1, 2012 4:42:35 AM

Anandtech is a joke, you automatically disqualify yourself from any other reply from me JUST for linking an anandtech benchmark.

Go look at ACTUAL reviews, the 480 is head and shoulders above a 6950. (hardware canucks, Oc3d etc etc).
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March 1, 2012 4:43:01 AM

Scotty99 said:
A 560 ti is in the same category as the 470, not the 480...

LongpastPNR, i appreciate the replies but you should not really comment on something you know nothing about.


Gonna have to concur. Besides, we're discussing a card that costs around $300 (560ti) that needs to be heavily overclocked to reach the performance of a card that costs $250.

These 480's are surplus from a previous generation and this is the stuff great deals are made of. Not out of the realm of possibility of seeing 580's here next year. I remember seeing the first gen ati 5870's for $500, then again way later for around $300. Brand new.
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a b U Graphics card
March 1, 2012 4:43:03 AM

Scotty99 said:
A 560 ti is in the same category as the 470, not the 480...

LongpastPNR, i appreciate the replies but you should not really comment on something you know nothing about.



http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/330?vs=309
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March 1, 2012 4:44:54 AM

Hottest maybe, loudest far from it. I live in air conditioning in the summer, heat is a non issue. I own a 465 right now and ive been told its crap by tons of people and that they run hot. Ive never seen my GPU go over 68c while gaming (when people were telling me id see 90c temps).
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March 1, 2012 4:51:57 AM

Ya, im done with this thread. Obvious AMD fanboys in here. I appreciate lemlo for bringing some common sense here and verifying my thoughts on the matter.

I 100% agree also, buying old gen vid cards is absolutely the way to go. This is how budget PC's with amazing specs are accomplished.
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March 1, 2012 4:54:17 AM

For another $30 ($10 after rebate) I'd rather have a GTX 560 Ti 448. Almost identical performance, uses 75W less power at load and much quieter.
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a c 109 U Graphics card
March 1, 2012 4:54:26 AM

Scotty99 said:
Ya, im done with this thread. Obvious AMD fanboys in here. I appreciate lemlo for bringing some common sense here and verifying my thoughts on the matter.

I 100% agree also, buying old gen vid cards is absolutely the way to go. This is how budget PC's with amazing specs are accomplished.

Though make sure your case has good airflow before you buy. The 480 is a very hot card and needs to be properly cooled.
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March 1, 2012 4:54:56 AM

jeffredo said:
For another $30 ($10 after rebate) I'd rather have a GTX 560 Ti 448. Almost identical performance, uses 75W less power at load and much quieter.

Not a good card to buy, limited edition run so getting another one for sli down the road will be a pain.
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March 1, 2012 4:59:29 AM

Just ordered it. And ya i have antec 300 illusion which is one of the best ventilated cases on the market. I cut out the perforations on the front fan mounts for even more airflow.

I would go as far as saying the 300 has better airflow than even the HAF cases from CM because the HDD cage in the 300 runs parallel with the optical bays allowing air to flow freely through it, rather than being subdued by a horizontal (but more convenient) HDD cage.
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March 1, 2012 5:01:22 AM

Best answer selected by scotty99.
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March 1, 2012 5:02:06 AM

amuffin said:
Not a good card to buy, limited edition run so getting another one for sli down the road will be a pain.


Inconsequential concern if you never have an intention of SLI (which most people don't). Anyway, how can it be any bigger of an issue vs. a previous generation card (the GTX 480) than must surely be nearing its end as far as easy availability goes?
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March 1, 2012 5:03:49 AM

Scotty99 said:
Just ordered it. And ya i have antec 300 illusion which is one of the best ventilated cases on the market. I cut out the perforations on the front fan mounts for even more airflow.

I would go as far as saying the 300 has better airflow than even the HAF cases from CM because the HDD cage in the 300 runs parallel with the optical bays allowing air to flow freely through it, rather than being subdued by a horizontal (but more convenient) HDD cage.

I would remove the hdd cage, well at least in my 912 I can do it. It will give much better temps to your card(s).
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March 1, 2012 5:07:39 AM

I think you misread :p  I own the 300, the HDD cage does not restrict airflow whatsover. This is the main reason i purchased the 300 over the 912, actually. That and i liked the looks of it better : )
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March 1, 2012 5:10:50 AM

Scotty99 said:
Anandtech is a joke, you automatically disqualify yourself from any other reply from me JUST for linking an anandtech benchmark.

Go look at ACTUAL reviews, the 480 is head and shoulders above a 6950. (hardware canucks, Oc3d etc etc).



odd,most other forums state toms is a joke.HWC and ocd3 have no benchmarks on the 6950 vs 480,now u are disqualified.

http://www.hwcompare.com/8757/geforce-gtx-480-vs-radeon...

toms charts are flawed by using low resolutions.
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March 1, 2012 5:12:19 AM

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Why come in hear and ask for help when you already have your mind made up and heart set on GTX 480


To hone his debating skills for those who will inevitably tell him there were better options in more or less the same price category? ;) 
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March 1, 2012 5:12:31 AM

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Why come in hear and ask for help when you already have your mind made up and heart set on GTX 480 PS 560ti is not $300 LOL it is $225 and faster than that old, hot, outdated and (( loud )) GTX 480.


No, you are wrong man, just plain wrong. A 560ti is no where near as fast as a 480, these benchmarks you are seeing are blasphemy. Hell, just look at the hierarchy chart this website does each month. Here, i will link it for you:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car...


The 560ti is a whole tier lower, the 480 is in the same league as a 6970 or the old school dual GPU 4870x2.
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March 1, 2012 5:17:47 AM

Scotty99 said:
Just ordered it. And ya i have antec 300 illusion which is one of the best ventilated cases on the market. I cut out the perforations on the front fan mounts for even more airflow.

I would go as far as saying the 300 has better airflow than even the HAF cases from CM because the HDD cage in the 300 runs parallel with the optical bays allowing air to flow freely through it, rather than being subdued by a horizontal (but more convenient) HDD cage.



now we know you have no clue,the 300 doesnt even come close to the cooling of the HAF seies.

jeffredo wrote :


To hone his debating skills for those who will inevitably tell him there were better options in more or less the same price category? ;) 




ROFLMFAO ans I concur +1^

+2^

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March 1, 2012 5:21:28 AM

Earnie said:
now we know you have no clue,the 300 doesnt even come close to the cooling of the HAF seies.



How do you figure? The 300 illusion has 4 included fans, two front 120's, a rear 120, and a top 140. The entire front bezel is a gigantic intake, the side has a cutout for an optional 120 for PSU and GPU cooling. The 912 comes no where near as close to as good of cooling as the 300.

Not to mention the most important part, the alignment of the HDD cage on the 300 compared to the HAF series. I would be my life if you took my components and shoved them into a 912 all of my parts would run a bit hotter than they are in my 300.
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March 1, 2012 5:27:44 AM

Why are you still stuck on the heat issue? I live in an air conditioned apt, heat is a non issue. Did you read the part where i currently own a gtx 465? And that how i was told not to buy one then when people were saying i would see 90c load temps, and my highest gaming GPU load has been 68c (hell, 6950's and 560ti's get hotter than this).

Again on the noise, blower style coolers are a trade off. I would rather have a slightly louder rig than one that dumps hot air back into my case. All fans become noisy at SOME point, you just need to find that percentage via afterburner and set it just below that threshold, this is usually around 65% from my past experiences.
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March 1, 2012 5:31:51 AM

Scotty99 said:
How do you figure? The 300 illusion has 4 included fans, two front 120's, a rear 120, and a top 140. The entire front bezel is a gigantic intake, the side has a cutout for an optional 120 for PSU and GPU cooling. The 912 comes no where near as close to as good of cooling as the 300.

Not to mention the most important part, the alignment of the HDD cage on the 300 compared to the HAF series. I would be my life if you took my components and shoved them into a 912 all of my parts would run a bit hotter than they are in my 300.


let me see,I have a HAF 932,2-200 intakes(side can be changed to 4 120mm fans),1-internal behind the gpu's,1-140 rear ex,3-120 top exhausts.

2-6950's set to 6970's,max temp 65c
1100t x6 o/c to 4ghz max temp 45c
BF3 on all ultra settings,
heaven beanchmark,same as above
prime 95 same as above.

just built a rig with a 300 for a friend,so i know these 2 cases very well.
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March 1, 2012 5:32:11 AM

What i find funny about longpastPNR posts is that he seems more concerned about heat and noise than performance for the dollar, which should unquestionably be the #1 priority...well when buying anything.

Do you live in a library in the desert or something?
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March 1, 2012 5:35:46 AM

Earnie said:
let me see,I have a HAF 932,2-200 intakes(side can be changed to 4 120mm fans),1-internal behind the gpu's,1-140 rear ex,3-120 top exhausts.

2-6950's set to 6970's,max temp 65c
1100t x6 o/c to 4ghz max temp 45c
BF3 on all ultra settings,
heaven beanchmark,same as above
prime 95 same as above.

just built a rig with a 300 for a friend,so i know these 2 cases very well.



Did you seriously just compare a 160.00 case to a 50.00 case?

Compare it to the 912...
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March 1, 2012 5:38:20 AM

Does anyone else picture longpastPNR in a hockey helmet with taped up coke bottle glasses with drool coming out his mouth?
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March 1, 2012 5:45:44 AM

I will : )

Now, go wipe your mouth.
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a b U Graphics card
March 1, 2012 5:48:11 AM

heat and noise ARE a consideration to a vast amount of people looking to purchase new GPU's,sure performance is priority 1,but if your living with 90c and 45-50db,it does tend to be loud and heat up a room rather quickly.

I'm not saying the 480 is bad,but people are just letting you know what to possibly expect from it.

I'm sure i remember that the 480 was a rush release of a 580 and thats why it has/had issues,the 580 was known as what the 480 was supposed to be,bottom line, its your money,youve read the advice of others,its still and always be YOUR choice,I say if its what you really want and its a good deal to you,then buy it.
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March 1, 2012 5:51:41 AM

I already did, nothing comes close to its performance for 250.00 bucks.

You get a chance to check out the 912 yet earnie? Also, didnt i make it clear in my opening post i was 100% aware of the heat and noise issues the card (apparently, meaning if you read actual reviews on past versions of the card, its mostly hyperbole and 75c load temps and barely loud fans are the reality).
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a b U Graphics card
March 1, 2012 5:53:11 AM

Scotty99 said:
Did you seriously just compare a 160.00 case to a 50.00 case?

Compare it to the 912...



actually you did:

I would go as far as saying the 300 has better airflow than even the HAF cases from CM because the HDD cage in the 300 runs parallel with the optical bays allowing air to flow freely through it, rather than being subdued by a horizontal (but more convenient) HDD cage.

your own comment says HAF,the 932 IS a HAF case.

haf912 vid,at least u can remove the middle HD cage for better airflow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8Z5Wzkc9uE
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March 1, 2012 5:57:18 AM

Scotty99 said:
I already did, nothing comes close to its performance for 250.00 bucks.

You get a chance to check out the 912 yet earnie? Also, didnt i make it clear in my opening post i was 100% aware of the heat and noise issues the card (apparently, meaning if you read actual reviews on past versions of the card, its mostly hyperbole and 75c load temps and barely loud fans are the reality).



actually i just read 4,one on an open test bench running furmak they had load temps up to 90c.idle was 52 i believe.
one had 45 Db,another 50Db
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March 1, 2012 8:29:27 AM

Scotty99 said:
How do you figure? The 300 illusion has 4 included fans, two front 120's, a rear 120, and a top 140. The entire front bezel is a gigantic intake, the side has a cutout for an optional 120 for PSU and GPU cooling. The 912 comes no where near as close to as good of cooling as the 300.

Not to mention the most important part, the alignment of the HDD cage on the 300 compared to the HAF series. I would be my life if you took my components and shoved them into a 912 all of my parts would run a bit hotter than they are in my 300.

Not to rip on the 300 here, but since you ripped on the 912...you guys have no way of installing a top mounted 240mm radiator! :kaola:  Haf 912 > 300 in water cooling and air cooling.
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March 1, 2012 12:57:30 PM

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When and if you turned a HAF case into a liquid case would that not completely mitigate the branding and purpose of the HAF 912s ( "High Air Flow" ) moniker LOL.



not if its just a cpu closed loop system,like the corsair H80/100.
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March 1, 2012 1:26:29 PM

lemlo said:
I'd really like to see a reference to a 560ti overclocked outperforming a gtx 570. I would be quite impressed.


In single card config, there's a gap but as the 560's GF114 architecture scales better than the GF110 on the 570, it's close in SLI.....Twin factory overclocked 560 Ti's (900 Mhz) in SLI get 862 fps in Guru3D's game test suite....twin stock 570's get 873 fps. That's only a 10% factory OC, 560's can reach 30% OC's.

http://www.pureoverclock.com/review.php?id=1201&page=17
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March 1, 2012 2:16:19 PM

well, here's my 2 cents. I don't know much about the 480, but I did get a 6950 (2GB). the card came with the BIOS switch and I was lucky enough to unlock the rest of the cores.

running at stock clock, temps are 35C at idle and about 50C playing Skyrim and Starcraft 2. I have NEVER seen the temp go above 51 and that's on very rare occasions and I don't have a fancy case. just run of the mill with a side fan. I can also overclock it to 880 to match the 6970 clock speed, but I see no reason for now. I'm getting fantastic frame rates with all options on in both games so I'm very happy with it.

again, I'm emphasizing the fact that I don't know much about the 480 and I was actually able to unlock the card to a 6970.

but in the end, it's your choice and I'm sure you'll enjoy your new purchase.
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