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May 6, 2012 5:18:12 AM

Hello, Experts! I am looking to build my first gaming computer with price cap at around $800. I have found a few items but I am totally new to this and don't know what I am really getting into. Any advice and/or part suggestions would be very welcome.

System Usage: Games such as Total War, internet.
Parts Not Required: mouse and keyboard, monitor, hard drive, monitor, speakers, optical drive.
Preferred Websites: newegg.ca , amazon.ca , directcanada.com

PARTS: (so far)

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

GPU: EVGA 01G-P3-1561-AR GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Case: COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN1-GP Black Steel + Plastic and Mesh Bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...


So if you could help me finish or fix my build I would greatly appreciate it! THANKS

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May 6, 2012 5:33:09 AM

okay the only difference between IB and SB is a 10% clock speed difference save yourself alot of money and just get the i5 2500k and invest the money in other parts
here is the build i suggest
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7OmY
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May 6, 2012 5:38:57 AM

OH really!??? I read that the ivy bridge runs twice as fast. Thanks for the tip!
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May 6, 2012 5:50:35 AM

no problem its a rather common mistake and with the money you save you can get a radeon 7850 which will run most games maxed out at 1920x1080
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May 6, 2012 5:27:54 PM

I was just looking at the two and on newegg the price difference is only 25 dollars. Is it worth it to spend that little bit more? I know there is more to a cpu than just speed.
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May 6, 2012 6:13:27 PM

well yes the difference between the processors themselves is only $25 but then you also save money on the mobo
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May 6, 2012 6:14:04 PM

Clock speed doesn't meed performance change. Ivy bridge does actually give a slight performance increase and lower power consumption. But it is ultimately your decision to whether or not it is needed.

Check out my $850 build here
http://www.squidoo.com/electronicandmore
Probably will end up increasing way too high with canadian prices. But it'll give you an idea of what you should generally have at this price range.
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May 10, 2012 11:31:33 AM

you should just get a 6850 it plays mw3 at max settings on a 32" it cost around $130-$150 but its worth it. The i5 cost way too much for a gaming computer at your price settings i would go with the a series a-6 3670k it should run you about $120 but the motherboards are cheap $75 should get you an awesome board. here is an AMD setup for you http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?I...
barebonekit $490
graphics card $145
windows os $100
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total $735
it will play any game plus have money left over for a gaming keyboard and mouse setup :bounce: 
here is my computers specs
gaming htpc llano A-8 3870K processor, 500gb seagate momentus hybrid drive, 8gb g.skill sniper ram, sony blu ray player, crossfired 6670, bluetooth, wifi, mini keyboard/mouse combo, 450 WATT 80 PLUS PSU, WINDOWS 7 home premium http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007TN5PZ6

gaming computer fx 6100 6 core processor,nzxt tempest 410 gaming case, 2tb western-digital green hard disk drive, xfx radeon hd 6870, 8gb crucial ram, corsair h60 liquid cooling, samsung blu ray drive, 630 WATT 80 PLUS PSU, WINDOWS 7 home premium http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007T0DXVM
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May 10, 2012 11:37:49 AM

stick with the intel suggestions those AMD ones are wrong on so many levels I can't gather the will to type a response.

The guy saying 2500k has a fair point the $ saved on CPU and mobo can go to GPU where you will feel the difference.
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May 10, 2012 3:02:33 PM

wr6133 said:
stick with the intel suggestions those AMD ones are wrong on so many levels I can't gather the will to type a response.

The guy saying 2500k has a fair point the $ saved on CPU and mobo can go to GPU where you will feel the difference.

thank you haha
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May 10, 2012 9:05:48 PM

Intel fan boys AMD saves you money and in gaming i don't see any difference between my 6100 and i5 2500k i own both. :fou: 
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May 10, 2012 9:34:34 PM

gizmo_65 said:
Intel fan boys AMD saves you money and in gaming i don't see any difference between my 6100 and i5 2500 i own both. :fou: 

Probably because your one of the few people who purchased a locked cpu like the 2500 and not an unlocked cpu like the 2500K. That might also explain why you purchased a AMD 6100.

It's pretty obvious you didn't come here first for advice before you made your purchase.
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May 11, 2012 8:21:54 AM


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Intel fan boys AMD saves you money and in gaming i don't see any difference between my 6100 and i5 2500 i own both. :fou: 


I'm not an Intel fanboy look at my signature rig or maybe read around these forums and see how often I recommend people Phenom II over i3.

Your ideas are stupid beyond belief for the following reasons

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6850 it plays mw3 at max settings on a 32" it cost around $130-$150 but its worth it


Even older cards can do that its not hard or challenging to run MW3 maxed out.

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i would go with the a series a-6 3670k it should run you about $120 but the motherboards are cheap


This is a budget HPTC CPU it is in no way ever intended for gaming its basically an athlon with integrated graphics that while fine for watching pron aren't going to max out anygame.

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gaming htpc llano A-8 3870K processor, 500gb seagate momentus hybrid drive, 8gb g.skill sniper ram, sony blu ray player, crossfired 6670, bluetooth, wifi, mini keyboard/mouse combo, 450 WATT 80 PLUS PSU, WINDOWS 7 home premium


Sorry you DON'T own a gaming rig that is a fancy HTPC.... oh you dont have crossfire either you have "hybrid xfire" by combining the GPU and the APU... its not the same thing.

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gaming computer fx 6100 6 core processor,nzxt tempest 410 gaming case, 2tb western-digital green hard disk drive, xfx radeon hd 6870, 8gb crucial ram, corsair h60 liquid cooling, samsung blu ray drive, 630 WATT 80 PLUS PSU, WINDOWS 7 home premium


My thuban at 4GHZ outperforms that FX so again not really a good thing to recommend to somebody that can afford better like the OP can or spend less to get better. You only list a green drive that will perform slowly and shows a lack of basic understanding.

The sensible budget choice with AMD is 960T or 965/980BE overclocked either walks all over an overclocked FX6100 or 4170 and COSTS LESS. A series Llano is just a STUPID choice for gaming the integrated graphics is not good enough for anyone serious so your essentially paying more for an old athlon than you could for a better Phenom II.

The OP has the budget for a better i5 CPU and a mid range GPU. Its argueable he would do better buying a cheaper Phenom II CPU and a better GPU. In no way on his budget is it argueable though to buy FX junk or Llano (which is a dead socket BTW FM1 is soon to be replaced).

Sorry you bought rubbish and are stuck with it but thats no reason to troll other people in to buying junk and being miserable when they can afford better.
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May 11, 2012 10:09:11 AM

The fact you post the widely discredited passmark shows as I said your either clueless or a troll or both.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/434?vs=288

Real benchmarks 8150 VS 2500k. 2500k wipes floor with 8150 especially in the gaming ones at the bottom.

Look here even the Phenom II 980BE at stock speeds beats and levels with the nearly triple the price 8150

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/362?vs=434

oh and here is your "gaming" llano APU getting a sound thrashing from a cheaper Phenom II @ STOCK SPEEDS

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/399?vs=362

Shall we compare your llano to a 2500k?

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/399?vs=288

hmmm seems its not anywhere near the 2500k

maybe it can beat an i3?

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/399?vs=289

Would appear in gaming and over half the other tasks its a NO

ok lets give it a chance against a Pentium G620 that costs a fraction of its price

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/399?vs=406

Still can't thrash it gaming

If your going to troll go away read up on things then come back and do it properly.
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May 11, 2012 11:30:59 PM

Gizmo, you can't argue that AMD can hold its ground against Intel, because it honestly can't. AMD's chips after overclocking lose insane amounts of efficiency to the Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge chips. Even at stock the 8120 is terrible in efficiency already. In multi-thread, it barely beats out the i5 3570K while it loses by a margin to the i7 3770K. As for gaming, it's just destroyed in that by even the i5 3450 which even after overclocking AMD doesn't make up for the margin that it loses to the i5 3450.
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May 22, 2012 4:46:15 AM

Best answer selected by AladdinsCarpet.
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