I have been reading the post's at Tom's hardware for a very long time now and like alot of other people, i am sick of hearing the girlie man fanboy crap. Cant you guy's discuss a topic without turning it into another useless post, really you should be thanking the competition for making your favourite manufacturer , intel, amd , nvidia , ati put out a decent product, without these guy's you would be running some stonage piece of crap that you would constantly whinge about and there would be nothing to improve the situation.