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March 1, 2012 10:52:27 PM

Hi all, recently my dad lent me his 6950 because I've been getting good marks. It's an ASUS Direct CU II model. We had to remove the chasis of the card so that it would fit in my Antec 300 case. i uninstalled my 4850 drivers, reboot in safe mode, ran driver sweeper, installed the card, installed the new drivers, and tried some games. I seem to have really poor performance. Assassin's creed struggles to get over the 30 fps barrier in open areas. Saints row the third plays at about 23-24 fps. Skyrim roams at around 40 - 50 (no AA). Battlefield plays ok on ultra but brought it down to high on big maps. I know I should be getting better performance but don't know how to fix this. I have tried this card with the drivers it comes with ( installation cd), catalyst 12.1, and 12.2 preview. UI have also tried resetting mobo CMOS. Can anybody help?

4gb ddr2 800mhz
q6600 oc 3.0
6950 ASUS Direct CU II
ASUS P5Q

All the framerates provided were played in max graphics settings, 1080p with no AA.

Thanks for the help!

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March 1, 2012 11:44:27 PM

cpu bottleneck bud
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March 1, 2012 11:48:54 PM

I dont doubt its bottlenecking, but not to the point that itll bring me down to 23 fps on SR3 and Assassins Creed ONE
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March 2, 2012 12:04:26 AM

At that resolution, yep, bottleneck. That cpu architecture is just way too old and inneficient for now a days. Even Phenom II outperforms those buy a wide margin....would you use a GTX 8800 even if it had a 1gz core clock...nope. Clock speed isn't everything. Same with all software, cutting edge software, is developed with cutting edge hardware in mind. Things like PCI express lanes, cache, L2 or L3 how much of it it has etc etc...u get the idea.







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March 2, 2012 12:05:58 AM

agreed cpu bottleneck
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March 2, 2012 12:06:44 AM

that seems to make sens for newer games but, how come i drop up until 18 fps on assassins creed 1????
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March 2, 2012 12:15:25 AM

first thing I need to say is it's not always wise to use drive sweeper. too many people see ati drivers and delete the wrong ones. best to use add/remove unless you have some sort of problem.

does the old card work the way it did ? what do you have for a PSU ? make and model not watts.

and yes, the Q6600 is holding you back.

Not all performance is gained in FPS. there's more to it than that.
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March 2, 2012 12:16:37 AM

because your old graphics card wasnt at that resolution?
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March 2, 2012 12:21:38 AM

also some games are coded diferently, especially Assassins Creed a console friendly game...not sure if this may do with it, but the q6600 is also, just 2 dual cores mashed up together...the way the interrelate with each other to provide a quadcore could possibly factor in?...don't take that theory to the bank though...just sayin.
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March 2, 2012 12:25:38 AM

i had a 4850 and played my games in 1080p. I have a Corsair TX 750 v2 80 plus certified enthusiast series
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March 2, 2012 12:46:15 AM

tristan6100 said:
any other ideas?


dude we told you and yet you will not listen. why bother asking if your not going to listen.

if you able to downclock or overclock your cpu and note the fps difference. there will be a difference. its your cpu and it cant even get out of its own way.
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March 2, 2012 12:54:32 AM

cbrunnem said:
dude we told you and yet you will not listen. why bother asking if your not going to listen.

if you able to downclock or overclock your cpu and note the fps difference. there will be a difference. its your cpu and it cant even get out of its own way.

Never heard of a Quad Core being bottlenecking a 6950 unless it's hella old... If you want to see improvement, Overclock your CPU to 3.6/3.8GHz at least for probably 60+ FPS... BTW check your CPU and GPU temp than Overclock both of them...
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March 2, 2012 1:09:09 AM

something else is wrong. not a bottleneck issue. cause i get more fps in skyrim 1080p ultra settings.
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March 2, 2012 1:09:09 AM

That 4850 wouldnt play BF3 on 1080P Ultra smooth. Your Q6600 at 3.0Ghz is lacking. Is your 6950 firmware unlocked to 6970 either, or newer unlockable version? I dont think your numbers are low for a 6950 still locked running on a Q6600 at 3Ghz. See suggestion above as well. OC those both a bit more and you should see some better numbers.
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March 2, 2012 1:17:18 AM

another thing I forgot to mention. some of those games you mentioned are DX11 games. the old card could not render DX11 but the new card can.
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March 2, 2012 1:21:38 AM

My Phenom 2 955 running at 3.2 ghz and hd 6850 run saints row the third over 30 fps at 1080 p, 8x aa. I wonder why your fps just around 23-24 with a better gpu, hd 6950?
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March 2, 2012 1:50:52 AM

legendkiller said:
Never heard of a Quad Core being bottlenecking a 6950 unless it's hella old... If you want to see improvement, Overclock your CPU to 3.6/3.8GHz at least for probably 60+ FPS... BTW check your CPU and GPU temp than Overclock both of them...


you keep telling yourself that.

chinoroy said:
something else is wrong. not a bottleneck issue. cause i get more fps in skyrim 1080p ultra settings.


you have a much higher clock speed.

azecly said:
My Phenom 2 955 running at 3.2 ghz and hd 6850 run saints row the third over 30 fps at 1080 p, 8x aa. I wonder why your fps just around 23-24 with a better gpu, hd 6950?


a phenom 2 955 is a better cpu..
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March 2, 2012 2:05:15 AM

cbrunnem said:
you keep telling yourself that.



you have a much higher clock speed.



a phenom 2 955 is a better cpu..

even at stock speed 2.93GHz i still get better fps than him.
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March 2, 2012 2:48:51 AM

i5 2500k. bench uses a gtx 280
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/53?vs=288
and the gtx is on par at best with the 6950. what im trying to say is that with a higher end gpu you can be bottleneck buy a quad core as you see in the bench i gave you. the newer higher tech kicked the q6600's but.
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March 2, 2012 9:34:36 PM

I'd like to thank you all guys :D . Now I know i have and old CPU and it can't keep up with todays technoolgy in any circumstances but I truly believe there is something wrong with the card or drivers because I was getting BETTER performance in some DX9 DX10 games (not all) on my 4850 in 1080p I should be getting much higher framerates because my friend who has a 6850 and q6600 stock is getting better performance. I would also like to specify that the card runs great (60+ fps) in small areas in games, but as soon as you go in big open areas (Red Faction Guerilla, Assassins Creed, GTA IV, Saints Row) there is a huge framerate drop (usually until 20 fps). I will try to OC my q6600 to 3.4ghz to see if it makes a difference. I'm kind of suspecting the card is deffective.
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March 3, 2012 1:03:27 PM

tristan6100 said:
I'd like to thank you all guys :D . Now I know i have and old CPU and it can't keep up with todays technoolgy in any circumstances but I truly believe there is something wrong with the card or drivers because I was getting BETTER performance in some DX9 DX10 games (not all) on my 4850 in 1080p I should be getting much higher framerates because my friend who has a 6850 and q6600 stock is getting better performance. I would also like to specify that the card runs great (60+ fps) in small areas in games, but as soon as you go in big open areas (Red Faction Guerilla, Assassins Creed, GTA IV, Saints Row) there is a huge framerate drop (usually until 20 fps). I will try to OC my q6600 to 3.4ghz to see if it makes a difference. I'm kind of suspecting the card is deffective.

Try a 4GHz but depends what heatsink you got... If it's a stock 1 inch, probably 3.4 but if it's 2 inch tall than overclock it to 3.8GHz or so...
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