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May 8, 2012 11:28:31 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: Hopefully this weekend, although more likely to be next weekend.

Budget Range: 800-850 After Rebates, Pre Shipping

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming

Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg.com Amazon.com, Microcenter.com (Going in store to pick up)

Country: USA

Parts Preferences: by brand or type: Quality and Future-Proofing

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: Yes in the future

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: Would like a quiet PC. Function over looks. Also, I've made this thread a couple of times in the past, but now I have a general parts list sketched out. Hope to buy this before Diablo III (not the only game, but a game I'm looking forward to) comes out!

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Current Parts List

I5-2500k = $170 <-microcenter

ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 $75 (after 50 off) <- microcenter

Cooler Master HAF 912 $60 <- microcenter

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) $47
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM $18
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Hyper 212 + Cooler $20 after rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HIS H785F2G2M Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card $220 after rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
(hopefully sale will still be going when I purchase)


Total (Not including hdd or powersupply) = $610 (and a little tax from microcenter)

Finally, I would like some reccomendations on

A Quality 1tb 7200 hdd
as well as a power supply that will not only support all of the above, but will be open to crossfiring 7850s in the future.

Don't feel compelled to spend up to the full budget though!

Please also check that everything is compatible and there are not any problems! Thanks in advance!

P.S. If anyone has any swaying arguments for either going an i5-3570k for $20 more, or a Z77 mobo that is particularly good, please let me know!

-Sam


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May 9, 2012 12:01:14 AM

I was under the impression that at stock the 3570k was better, with lower temps and consumption, however due to the smaller manufacturing process, there was less heat dissipation space available, leading it to have higher temps at similar overclocks.
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May 9, 2012 12:07:59 AM

maui67 said:
PSU: CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply - $90 (+ $10 rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: Seagate ST310005N1A1AS-RK 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - $90 after $20 promo sale
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The Power Supply looks good (I know that this is one area where it is very important not to skimp on price), and the hard drive is as well.

I have actually seen that deal thrown around a bit recently, but I don't intend to purchase within the next two days, so I am not going to chase after that promo.

With that in mind, the other linked hard drive seems like it has gotten very good reviews (as well as being a newegg favorite) for what would then be the same price.

I will be waiting a bit for some more feedback, but those two look like great contenders.

Also any opinions on GPU brand? I ended up going with them for being a solid 20-40 cheaper than the others, which looked to be due to the rebate, as well as not including dues ex as a free game, which doesn't bother me.
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May 9, 2012 2:01:05 AM

Similar OCs to SB aren't necessary on IB. Even THG went to 4.5 GHz on air with the i5-3570k without issues, which is roughly equivalent to 4.8 GHz on SB.
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May 9, 2012 8:13:49 PM

azeem40 said:
Similar OCs to SB aren't necessary on IB. Even THG went to 4.5 GHz on air with the i5-3570k without issues, which is roughly equivalent to 4.8 GHz on SB.


So do you think it is worth the money to upgrade to the i5-3750k + z77 mobo or will they still have relatively similar performance?

My guess is that at the speeds either cpu will be going at, I won't notice any difference. Otherwise I guess the ivy bridge would be a bit more power efficient, although I suppose that isn't a huge concern for me.
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May 9, 2012 8:17:29 PM

Gamer_Pollution said:
why would he need the 3570k if he plans to overclock if the 2500k overclocks?


The 3570K will run PCI Gen 3 where the 2500K won't - and if you're planning on getting any sort of high quality GPU you won't want to water it down if you can help it.
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May 9, 2012 8:28:11 PM

g-unit1111 said:
The 3570K will run PCI Gen 3 where the 2500K won't - and if you're planning on getting any sort of high quality GPU you won't want to water it down if you can help it.


That is a very good point ... although not an immediate problem, it could be one in the future...

I will check to see if I can get the deal with a third gen processor and a z68 board then, cause a $20 increase seems like a reasonable amount to spend for some minor immediate increases and some good future proofing. I suppose I will also have a relatively low power draw with an ivy bridge and 7850 :) 

Guess I am swayed! Thanks for all of the advice on this topic!

EDIT: Turns out if i go with the 3570k i will need to go z77 to get the deal ... will begin looking but also would love suggestions!
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May 9, 2012 9:42:56 PM

SamCompHelp said:
ASRock Z77 Extreme4-M LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

seems like the z77 version of what i had before (although up to $90 after 50 off).

Any opinions on this?


Micro ATX - no. On a desktop build you don't want to limit your expansion options. Get something like this - it will run a bit more but you won't forfeit RAM slots, PCI slots, or SATA ports: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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May 9, 2012 9:51:11 PM

g-unit1111 said:
Micro ATX - no. On a desktop build you don't want to limit your expansion options. Get something like this - it will run a bit more but you won't forfeit RAM slots, PCI slots, or SATA ports: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


At that point we are $80 over the cost of the i5-2500k and z68 mobo, which is a bit much.

As far as expansion goes, I would never plan on going past 2 hard drives (I doubt I will ever go past 1),
I will never need more than 8 gigs of ram (unless games begin to need more, but then i still have 2 more slots to go up to 4gb x 4g.
As far as PCI slots go, the board I previously posted has either pce-i 3.0 x 16 for one, or x8 /x8 for dual. That board just goes up to x16 / x8, so even if I did end up needing to use dual graphics cards that would need more than x8/x8, it still would only help on one of them.

Are there any other features that would make it worth it to go that expensive?
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May 9, 2012 9:57:26 PM

SamCompHelp said:
At that point we are $80 over the cost of the i5-2500k and z68 mobo, which is a bit much.

As far as expansion goes, I would never plan on going past 2 hard drives (I doubt I will ever go past 1),
I will never need more than 8 gigs of ram (unless games begin to need more, but then i still have 2 more slots to go up to 4gb x 4g.
As far as PCI slots go, the board I previously posted has either pce-i 3.0 x 16 for one, or x8 /x8 for dual. That board just goes up to x16 / x8, so even if I did end up needing to use dual graphics cards that would need more than x8/x8, it still would only help on one of them.

Are there any other features that would make it worth it to go that expensive?


Well seeing as you have reasoning behind the choice - I'd say maybe but I do hate using mATX on desktops. If that Gigabyte board is too rich for you maybe try something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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May 9, 2012 10:11:31 PM

g-unit1111 said:
Well seeing as you have reasoning behind the choice - I'd say maybe but I do hate using mATX on desktops. If that Gigabyte board is too rich for you maybe try something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


This brings me down to only 1 pce-i 3.0 x 16 slot however, which wouldn't allow for CF in the future. I completely understand the arguments against mATX on desktops, but I just think that for my purposes and budget, they are the way to go.
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