u make alot of sense with saying that and i can believe every word and sorry i didnt mention ive got the hawk edition and with that said it is a 7 + 1 design which in my opinion is a good design coming from a stable oc of 930mhz which i personally got but understand when i say i got that OC doesnt mean i had it at that speed , i ran it at stock because i didnt need the extra power, i only OC to see what extra performance i could get from this card anyway ...... i can believe that temps coming from the vrm because when the gpu read 70c once when i had set the fans to stay at 40% for quietness i felt the card with my hand and could barely keep my hand on it for more than 2 seconds and that was with my hand on the vrm so what you think happened here plus another key part i lefted out was that the problem of not powering up is intermittent because i returned the card today to the store and it worked fine then when i got home and put it back this time round it started up and stayed on for 10mins the most then died on me again so im not sure what to think .... oh and the card is only 5months