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May 10, 2012 2:47:07 AM

Ok, so ive done research for about 2 weeks now, but im still a bit confoozled on what parts i should get.
So far i've bought these items for my build-

Nzxt phantom 410 computer case
http://www.amazon.com/NZXT-Phantom-Tower-Gaming-Case/dp...

Planar 27" 1080p 2ms LCD Monitor
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c...

Windows 7 premium 64-bit


Approximate Purchase Date: 1-2 weeks (Before Diablo 3 ideally)

Budget Range: ~800$ After Rebates

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, web surfing, watching videos

Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS, mouse pad

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Prefer amazon and microcenter, but open to anywhere for a good price(1hour drive to microcenter in santa clara)

Country: USA (CA)

Parts Preferences: none

Overclocking: Yes, in the future

SLI or Crossfire: maybe, doubt it though

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: I would like it to run as quietly as possible, but can compromise if the benefits exceed the noisiness.
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CPU- So for the cpu, im most definitely getting an i5 3570k
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

GPU- As for the gpu, im still undecided. Thought about getting a 560 ti...but im thinking of waiting for the new nvidia chips and either get one of those, or at least hopefully get some price drops. Will use the hd4000 until i get a discrete video card

MOBO- The motherboard is the most confusing aspect for me. Im pretty sure i want a z77, as the h77 doesnt allow for overclocking,i think. However i have no idea which one to get...whats the difference between a $250ish one versus a $130ish one. Example
http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-P8Z77-V-LX-Intel-Motherboard...
http://www.amazon.com/Deluxe-Intel-Motherboard-P8Z77-V-...

Internal Drives- For my drives, I'm probably gonna get the crucial m4 128gb ssd(OS and Games)
http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-2-5-Inch-Solid-State-CT12...
and probably the Western Digital Caviar Green 1 TB SATA III Intellipower 64 MB
http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Intellipower-3-5-...
Im assuming the green version is quieter than the black version, since its only 5400rpm vs 7200rpm. However, does that make a huge difference in performance? if it does id sacrifice quite for speed.

PSU- Again, im not sure what kind of PSU i should get. I'm thinking about 600W, but dont want to pay too much for it. Then again i dont want a crappy one either :p 

Ram- ??Maybe these corsair http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-PC3-12800-1600m...

Well thats about it, a few final questions though. Should i buy any extra fans for cooling purposes??? should i get a blu ray optical drive or regular DVD??? Also, do i need a soundcard in order to hook up my speakers(im thinking yes)?
Anyways, thanks for reading, and any help will be appreciated.

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May 10, 2012 3:48:28 AM

Ok, umm, here's what I think + recommendations.

Cpu-great choice, very soild and good(amazing at microcenter)price

Gpu-seeing as you mainly were looking at nvidia I would wait a bit and see how the 660ti turns out. Most likely it will have a decent boost in performance while using less power. I don't know when the 660ti will be out but I haven't heard it being anytime to soon =( Otherwise something along the lines of an Ati 7870 or 7850 would also be pretty good.

Mobo-The main differences between the 2 asus ones are that the deluxe has more sata, few more features, and better overclocking ability. I would suggest you looking at something by Asrock or Gigabyte. They make very good motherboards that are usually a good bit cheaper than what Asus has to offer.
> http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
>if you don't hate Newegg http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
drives
-Crucial m4 is a great drive, so whatever you pick there will be fine
-I would NOT get the black version as long as you don't mid a bit slower, no need for it if you have an ssd. A green drive would be good, but you will notice its speed difference from a 7200rpm one. You could also take a look at Seagate Barracuda drives
> http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-3-5-Inch-Intern...
> http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-7200-12-Interna...

Psu-meh, depends on graphics cards. If you are somewhat serious about going sli/xfire I would get a 750w to have a nice amount of room to work with. Otherwise, a 600-650w would be good and have room to provide for future upgrades(not including sli/xfire). Just look around but generally Corsair, Seasonic, and Antec are regarded as quality. Look around to see what you can find. You could try and squeeze by with around 500w but I would just get a larger one for safety. Oh, and DON'T buy any Diablotek psu's. I bought one for fun and I blew up at around half of its load. =)

RAM-good, but just watch out for those heatsinks. If you ever wanted to install a larger cpu cooler it might get in the way. I might look at these http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-Profile-PC3-128...

optical-either DVD or Bluray is good, depends on if you think you would use the Bluray function though

fans-You could get away with what came with the case. I personally like more fans because more fans=more airflow=cooler temps=slower + quieter fan speeds(usually)

soundcard-not needed because motherboards have built in sound. When you get you system put together try the sound from the motherboard. If its not good enough then you could get a soundcard.

Other-The mobo+cpu deal going at microcenter is very good and would allow you to save a nice amount of cash. Also, I might look into an aftermarket cpu cooler if you maybe want to overclock or just have better temps. Something like these are good budget ones.
> http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-2...
> http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Sleeve-RR-B10...

Id be happy to answer any other questions you have.
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May 10, 2012 4:24:05 AM

Thanks for the reply dylwing23, i do have a few questions though.

Are those seagate drives quite, or at least not too noticable. Also is their any difference between the smaller and larger versions of them?

As for the ram, those look pretty good, and seem to run just as good as the other corsairs. Do the heatsinks really matter on ram?? or is it mainly for those who OC their ram?

Final question, ill probably end up getting extra fans, but will they be neccessary if i do end up getting a aftermarket cooler like the one you mentioned? mostly concerned with space issues, which shouldnt be too much of a problem. thanks again
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May 10, 2012 5:36:13 AM

dylwing23 said:
Ok, umm, here's what I think + recommendations.

Cpu-great choice, very soild and good(amazing at microcenter)price

Gpu-seeing as you mainly were looking at nvidia I would wait a bit and see how the 660ti turns out. Most likely it will have a decent boost in performance while using less power. I don't know when the 660ti will be out but I haven't heard it being anytime to soon =( Otherwise something along the lines of an Ati 7870 or 7850 would also be pretty good.

Mobo-The main differences between the 2 asus ones are that the deluxe has more sata, few more features, and better overclocking ability. I would suggest you looking at something by Asrock or Gigabyte. They make very good motherboards that are usually a good bit cheaper than what Asus has to offer.
> http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
>if you don't hate Newegg http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
drives
-Crucial m4 is a great drive, so whatever you pick there will be fine
-I would NOT get the black version as long as you don't mid a bit slower, no need for it if you have an ssd. A green drive would be good, but you will notice its speed difference from a 7200rpm one. You could also take a look at Seagate Barracuda drives
> http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-3-5-Inch-Intern...
> http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-7200-12-Interna...

Psu-meh, depends on graphics cards. If you are somewhat serious about going sli/xfire I would get a 750w to have a nice amount of room to work with. Otherwise, a 600-650w would be good and have room to provide for future upgrades(not including sli/xfire). Just look around but generally Corsair, Seasonic, and Antec are regarded as quality. Look around to see what you can find. You could try and squeeze by with around 500w but I would just get a larger one for safety. Oh, and DON'T buy any Diablotek psu's. I bought one for fun and I blew up at around half of its load. =)

RAM-good, but just watch out for those heatsinks. If you ever wanted to install a larger cpu cooler it might get in the way. I might look at these http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-Profile-PC3-128...

optical-either DVD or Bluray is good, depends on if you think you would use the Bluray function though

fans-You could get away with what came with the case. I personally like more fans because more fans=more airflow=cooler temps=slower + quieter fan speeds(usually)

soundcard-not needed because motherboards have built in sound. When you get you system put together try the sound from the motherboard. If its not good enough then you could get a soundcard.

Other-The mobo+cpu deal going at microcenter is very good and would allow you to save a nice amount of cash. Also, I might look into an aftermarket cpu cooler if you maybe want to overclock or just have better temps. Something like these are good budget ones.
> http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-2...
> http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Sleeve-RR-B10...

Id be happy to answer any other questions you have.


One more question as well, my case has room for like 7 fans, or less with bigger fans...should i go few bigger 140mm fans, or more 120mm fans?
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May 10, 2012 5:46:58 AM

PapiLouis4 said:
One more question as well, my case has room for like 7 fans, or less with bigger fans...should i go few bigger 140mm fans, or more 120mm fans?

140mm fans > 120mm fans

Lower RPM = quieter not to mention they push more air.
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May 10, 2012 12:35:35 PM

-the heatsinks are only needed of you really want to push your ram, otherwise normal airflow will be fine
- I have this drive http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barr [...] 554&sr=1-3 Its pretty quiet, but I cant compare it to a green drive. My guess would be its not to much louder but I cant confirm. The larger drives just have more platters which mean they will usually run louder/more power vs the one I bought has one 1 platter so its pretty nice.
-Im not familiar with the NZXT case you have , but I would advising throwing in a few more fans, and yes the larger ones you get the better. I acutally bought 2 of these to have 5 140mm fans total. http://www.amazon.com/140mm-Performance-140RB-Black-Whi...
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May 11, 2012 12:50:16 AM

dylwing23 said:
-the heatsinks are only needed of you really want to push your ram, otherwise normal airflow will be fine
- I have this drive http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barr [...] 554&sr=1-3 Its pretty quiet, but I cant compare it to a green drive. My guess would be its not to much louder but I cant confirm. The larger drives just have more platters which mean they will usually run louder/more power vs the one I bought has one 1 platter so its pretty nice.
-Im not familiar with the NZXT case you have , but I would advising throwing in a few more fans, and yes the larger ones you get the better. I acutally bought 2 of these to have 5 140mm fans total. http://www.amazon.com/140mm-Performance-140RB-Black-Whi...


the link is dead to the hard drive, could you try to relink it or tell me the name, wanna look it up. ill prob end up getting it since you say its pretty quiet. right now im looking at the 2tb barracuda
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005T3GRN2/ref=ox_sc_a...
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May 11, 2012 2:50:33 AM

yeah the 2tb is also pretty good, same series of drives I have. very happy with the performance and acoustics of my current 1tb. Any size would work because the main thing that they have going for them is the 1tb platters which help with everything.
http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-3-5-Inch-Intern...

One thing i would watch out for is that some people have been having bad luck and getting doa drives. I didn't have any issues, but then again its something to worry about. But looking at WD drives, Hitatchi, etc. everyone seems to be having issues with drives lately.
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May 11, 2012 2:52:59 AM

Best answer selected by PapiLouis4.
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May 11, 2012 3:11:45 AM

oh ok cool, i figured i should just get the 2tb one, since its double the size for only 20$ more. im ordering from amazon so if i do get a doa driver they have great customer service and i can get another.

i pretty much have everything ordered, just gotta wait to get my items and then build it, hopefully it wont be too difficult.

anyways thx for all the replys and answers guys. :) 
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May 11, 2012 3:24:23 AM

cool, have fun with the build!
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