Upgrade from athlon to x79 need advice

[boss_11]

updating my athlon II x3 440 to x79 need advice

Approximate Purchase Date: anytime this month

Budget Range:$600

System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming, watching movies, converting, and lots of multitasking

Parts Not Required: mouse,keyboard, monitor, speakers, OS, gpu, memory, cpu cooler, power supply(cougar cmx 700)

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: tipidpc.com( im from the philippines)

Country: philippines

Parts Preferences: intel x79 platform

Overclocking: absolutely yes

SLI or Crossfire: maybe in the near future

Monitor Resolution: 1600*1200 and 1920x1080

Additional Comments: a build that can handle multitsaking easily


well my currrent rig is a
athlon II x3 440 oc 3.7ghz
gigabyte 990fxa-ud5
gskill 2gb*2 1333/cl7 with 2gb kingston 1333cl7 6gb in total
inno3d 560ti
cougar cmx 700
western digital 500gb
windows 7

well i am building a rig that can handle hardcore gaming and lots of multitasking..
ive heard that x79 can do those things

i7 3280 with asrock extreme 4
with my old ram, videocard, powersupply and harddisk thats why my budget is only 600 cause im only upgrading the processor and motherboard

is this a good build for my preferences? gaming? multitasking?
do i need more ram?
or is it an overkill?

please help me build a x79 any comments? or suggestion? please post it thanks


sorry for my bad english

 

[slicedtoad]

x79 is not a good choice. Go with lga 1155.

Only reason for LGA 2011 is if you need a hexacore cpu or 3way sli/cf. Hexacore is useless for gaming and you aren't doing a $3k build with tri sli.

Could you link that ram you have? or give a model number.

grab an i5-2500k with a hyper 212 cooler or a i5-3570k if it's within $20 of the 2500k.
For the mobo look at the asrock extreme4 z77 mobo.

edit: okay, grab this ram:
http://www.ebay.ph/itm/Brand-New-Kingston-HyperX-8GB-2x4GB-DDR3-1600MHz-DIMM-240-pin-Gaming-Memory-/290709392475?pt=UK_Computing_ComputerComponents_MemoryRAM_JN&hash=item43afa14c5b#ht_808wt_1139

also grab the 2500k from tipidpc, not the 3570k.

 

[mourice12]

Hey if ur jumping into a new platform dont just into SB go ahead and jump into IB, no since in jumping to a new platform if its not gonna be the newest.

 

[slicedtoad]

^the 3570k should be almsot the same price as the 2500k. If it's not, it's not worth it. The performance gain is minimal and overclocking is actually harder.

And recon is right. Just that people spending enough on 3-way tend to have enough to get a hexacore.

 

[boss_11]

x79 is not a good choice. Go with lga 1155.

Only reason for LGA 2011 is if you need a hexacore cpu or 3way sli/cf. Hexacore is useless for gaming and you aren't doing a $3k build with tri sli.

Could you link that ram you have? or give a model number.

grab an i5-2500k with a hyper 212 cooler or a i5-3570k if it's within $20 of the 2500k.
For the mobo look at the asrock extreme4 z77 mobo.

edit: okay, grab this ram:
http://www.ebay.ph/itm/Brand-New-Kingston-HyperX-8GB-2x4GB-DDR3-1600MHz-DIMM-240-pin-Gaming-Memory-/290709392475?pt=UK_Computing_ComputerComponents_MemoryRAM_JN&hash=item43afa14c5b#ht_808wt_1139

also grab the 2500k from tipidpc, not the 3570k.

this is the ram
http://gskill.com/products.php?index=342


why not the ivy 3570k?

 

[boss_11]

3-way CFX/SLi is fine on 1155 too.

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1776/1/

well im not doing a tri sli or xfire.. maybe 2cards only...

 

[boss_11]

i have a question should i buy z77 instead of z68 if im going ivy?
can i use the full potential of ivy i7/i5 on z68?

 

[mourice12]

go with the z77 if jumping into IB, new chipset and more features. Also the performance is 10-15% over SB on certain models, its not that the OC'ing is harder its just that you hit a thermal threshold sooner due to less silicon in the IB CPU's.

 

[slicedtoad]

^yeah z77 is better unless there is a large price difference. Because you hit the thermal ceiling faster, ocing to the same clock is harder... The performance gain per clock balances this out though and ivy ends up slightly out performing SB on the same cooling. It's not worth much of a price jump.

ok, looking at prices again on tipid, the 3570k isn't that far off from the 2500k. I was looking at the used prices. So, yeah 3570k would be fine.

also you don't need new ram.

 

[boss_11]

i have a slight update.. i saw a i7-950 (DO version) and a gigabyte x58-oc both still have warranty..
for only $359 should i go for it? and the spare change for a gpu upgrade is it worth it??
can i see the difference between i7-950(do) from a i7-3820? in real world performance not just for benchmarks?

and can an i7-950do overclock like 920?

 

[slicedtoad]

there is a significant difference between an i7-950 and a sandy bridge or ivy bridge (2xxx or 3xxx) cpu.

$359 is not a good price for those two. An i5-2500k or i5-3570k + a $130 mobo (the ASRock z77 ones are good) would come to less and perform better. You don't need an i7 unless you need hyperthreading (for video encoding and such). It doesn't do anything at all for games.

 

[boss_11]

ok2. well i do some video/image editing video conversion, gaming, watching movies, and lots of multitasking..

 

[slicedtoad]

I should have specified proffesional video editing. An i5 will still edit video very well, the extra $100 for an i7 is only useful for large encoding projects. Both will handle multi tasking, games and movies identically. The extra $100 is better spent elsewhere.

 

[boss_11]

ok thank you.. ill go for i5 ivy. maybe spend a little for my water cooling setup or gpu upgrade

 

[slicedtoad]

I'd discourage you from going after water cooling unless it's for fun and money isn't a problem. If you're tight on money, it's a rather large waste since it won't improve performance much. It's also a significant amount of work. Something like a hyper 212 and a video card upgrade would far better performance per dollar.

That said, wc is incredibly fun if you like that sort of thing. It's something of a hobby though.

edit: I just realised that you might have meant something like a corsair h60 when you said 'water cooling' instead of a custom loop. These all-in-one water loops are only recommended if your goal is aesthetics or if you have a specific need in mind. There are better performing air coolers that cost less. By 'better performing' I mean both in noise levels and temperatures. The pumps in these loops also tend to die on you after anywhere from a year to 3 or 4 years of usage.

They do look nice though so I wouldn't discourage you from them if that's your goal. Just don't assume they perform like a custom water loop because corsair calls them "liquid cpu coolers". A single block custom loop (cools the cpu only) would cost you upwards of $200, likely higher.

 

[boss_11]

well i have a custom wc loop. ek and xspc combined

 

[slicedtoad]

ah, you already have it. I though you meant you were thinking of buying one. Makes sense now.