go with the z77 if jumping into IB, new chipset and more features. Also the performance is 10-15% over SB on certain models, its not that the OC'ing is harder its just that you hit a thermal threshold sooner due to less silicon in the IB CPU's.
^yeah z77 is better unless there is a large price difference. Because you hit the thermal ceiling faster, ocing to the same clock is harder... The performance gain per clock balances this out though and ivy ends up slightly out performing SB on the same cooling. It's not worth much of a price jump.
ok, looking at prices again on tipid, the 3570k isn't that far off from the 2500k. I was looking at the used prices. So, yeah 3570k would be fine.
i have a slight update.. i saw a i7-950 (DO version) and a gigabyte x58-oc both still have warranty..
for only $359 should i go for it? and the spare change for a gpu upgrade is it worth it??
can i see the difference between i7-950(do) from a i7-3820? in real world performance not just for benchmarks?
there is a significant difference between an i7-950 and a sandy bridge or ivy bridge (2xxx or 3xxx) cpu.
$359 is not a good price for those two. An i5-2500k or i5-3570k + a $130 mobo (the ASRock z77 ones are good) would come to less and perform better. You don't need an i7 unless you need hyperthreading (for video encoding and such). It doesn't do anything at all for games.
I should have specified proffesional video editing. An i5 will still edit video very well, the extra $100 for an i7 is only useful for large encoding projects. Both will handle multi tasking, games and movies identically. The extra $100 is better spent elsewhere.
I'd discourage you from going after water cooling unless it's for fun and money isn't a problem. If you're tight on money, it's a rather large waste since it won't improve performance much. It's also a significant amount of work. Something like a hyper 212 and a video card upgrade would far better performance per dollar.
That said, wc is incredibly fun if you like that sort of thing. It's something of a hobby though.
edit: I just realised that you might have meant something like a corsair h60 when you said 'water cooling' instead of a custom loop. These all-in-one water loops are only recommended if your goal is aesthetics or if you have a specific need in mind. There are better performing air coolers that cost less. By 'better performing' I mean both in noise levels and temperatures. The pumps in these loops also tend to die on you after anywhere from a year to 3 or 4 years of usage.
They do look nice though so I wouldn't discourage you from them if that's your goal. Just don't assume they perform like a custom water loop because corsair calls them "liquid cpu coolers". A single block custom loop (cools the cpu only) would cost you upwards of $200, likely higher.