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March 8, 2012 11:22:41 AM

Hey guys! I'm doing some PC hunting and after a lot of deliberation and confusion I've decided to get myself the Radeon 6990. The only hitch in my 'almost' flawless plan is the fact that I have to get the CLUB 3D RADEON 6990, because no other brands are currently available.

The real confusing part is the fact that on CLub 3d's website, the specifications of the 6990 is different to other brands. The real thing that worries is that it sais it's only 256 Bit. Other brand counterparts sais it's 2 x 256 bit.

So my question would be, is the CLub 3d Radeon 6990 only 256 bit, in other words, 128 x 2, spread over the two gpu's? Or is this just a typo mistake on CLub 3d's website.

I can't imagine that their 6990 would only be 256 bit, seeing as AMD Manufactures all the GPU's, and every single one is 256 x 2 Bit.

Any clarification on this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks PPL!

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a b U Graphics card
March 8, 2012 11:40:37 AM

no,every 6990 is 256x2 bit.BTW 6990 isn't a good card now.it's loud,hot and has various issues!
7970 is newer tech which runs cooler,quieter and overclocks very well.
a b U Graphics card
March 8, 2012 11:42:33 AM

^ Fully agree on this one
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March 8, 2012 11:53:23 AM

Really? The 7970? I'm getting the 6990 because it's overall performance is so much better than the 7970. I haven't seen a benchmark on FULL graphics where the 7970 outperforms the 6990...I'm getting very nice cooling, so temperature isn't really a problem..
a b U Graphics card
March 8, 2012 11:56:29 AM

Yep, if your gonna get a new card. get that 7970. Either that or wait for Kepler. Se what dem kepler cards got
March 8, 2012 12:01:18 PM

Okey, but you guys aren't really giving me any valid reason as to why I should rather buy the 7970. Okey, so the 7970 is based on new technology which makes it more energy efficient, doesn't run as loud and runs at lower temperatures. Other than that, what else is new?

The stats clearly show the 6990 outperforming the 7970 by far. There's no comparison really. I'm not trying to flame you guys, I'm just wondering why you think the 7970 is better...that's all...
a b U Graphics card
March 8, 2012 12:07:26 PM

The 6990 doesn't really outperforms the 7970 by far, they're quite close. In fact, once overclocked, the 7970 can performs equal to the 6990. Power consumption is one of the big reason I agree on the 7970, the difference is huge. Very huge. The 7970 is a very efficient card. Also, don't forget that the 6990 is a dual gpu card and many games doesn't really scale well, in fact some of them doesn't show any improvement at all. If you want better performance, go crossfire with the 7970. Although you should be running at triple display or 2560x1600 with that config
a b U Graphics card
March 8, 2012 12:14:51 PM

see dual gpus are a real pain in the ____.drivers,noise,heat are few examples.many gaes don't utilise two gpus on single pcb this results in poor performance.a day or two ago someone posted that high 6990 quadfire is running crysis on 20~30 fps.it's a good example of problems.so be safe.and remember-
faster does not always means better!
a b U Graphics card
March 8, 2012 12:22:11 PM

The main reasons for going with 7970 over 6990 are:

Driver compatability
Future upgrade plans
Heat
Noise
Power consumption
Very high overclocking headroom

Reasons for 6990 over 7970:

Better fps in many games (but not by a huge margin)
a b U Graphics card
March 8, 2012 2:29:43 PM

^ so did i said in latin or what?i said the same thing!
anyways thnx for advice.
a b U Graphics card
March 8, 2012 2:55:24 PM

There are lot's of people who keep saying the 7970 performs better than the 6990 but few provide benchmark comparisons. PLease link some. Have you guys read the Tom's Hardware review?

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7970-benc...

The 7970 is better at tessellation so it will do better than the 6990 but that is about it. A highly overclocked 7970 benches a bit lower than a stock 6990. Don't forget that a stock 830MHz/1250MHz 6990 can run at 940MHz/1400MHz by running in BIOS 2 position without applying any voltage tweeks. Yes, the 6990 needs more power to run. 350W vs 250W I beleive. Both of those cards are relatively quiet until the blower ramps up and then the are BOTH loud. A good aftermarket cooler like the artic cooling acceloro twin turbo will take care of that and you can run the fans at 80% or more and they will be no louder than your case fans and it will run the 6990 20 degrees cooler under load. The downside to the 6990 is future upgrade. There are only a few games that I know of that scale well with 4 gpu's. Bf3, dirt3,(shogun total war2 though I have not tried it but another forum member says it is good). Games like Skyrim will only use 2 gpu's so the 7970 cf will win but a single 6990 can run in ultra at 5760x1080 and maintain 60fps. I would be more inclined to go with the 7970 if the plan was to get another for crossfire but if you are looking for one card that will give you the best FPS then I say the 6990. Good luck with whichever one you go with.
a b U Graphics card
March 8, 2012 3:10:03 PM

No one here ever mentioned the 7970 performs better than the 6990, read carefully. Tom's may have gotten a bad card as other sites shows acceptable to almost quiet card in their review
a b U Graphics card
March 8, 2012 3:19:57 PM

^i agree with ezioas
a b U Graphics card
March 8, 2012 3:24:10 PM

Ok then, you said an overclocked 7970 performs the same not better so please back that up. My comment about the noise actually came from one of the guys at the local computer store who was telling my about overclocking his 7970 to 1025MHz and how loud the blower gets when it ramps up. As long as the blower stays under 30% both cards are relativley quiet. Given the choice I would rather have crossfire 7970's, don't get me wrong. I am just saying for a single card you pay nearly $200 more for a 6990 for a reason. It is faster and performs better ingnoring power consumption, noise etc.
a b U Graphics card
March 8, 2012 3:32:37 PM

1 min,first hing 6990 is till DA FASTEST CARD!i never said 7970 is faster.secondly you said that ' for a single card you pay nearly $200 more for a 6990 for a reason. It is faster and performs better ingnoring power consumption, noise etc.'
check this out-
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7970/images/bf3_1280_1...
7970 is beating 6990.i backed up the thing i never said.
i agree in almost every case 6990 is faster but not by a big margin to justify $200.
as for noise,we all know that amd stock cooler=red fan crap!
a b U Graphics card
March 8, 2012 3:36:06 PM

Going for 6990 instead of 7970 now is a madness but going for 6990 when Kepler is knocking on the door is insane!!!
a b U Graphics card
March 8, 2012 3:39:33 PM

^haha LoL!
a b U Graphics card
March 8, 2012 3:44:32 PM

If you ignore all other important points of a video card(power consumption, temperature under load, noise level) and only focus on the performance itself, then there's really no need for other companies to create aftermarket coolers that are more quieter and keep temps low, they can just sell reference cards from AMD.

The reason the 7970 gets my vote is also that there are companies that are creating custom pcb, adding a better cooler and such, thus giving you more option to choose, whereas the 6990 is a dying card and most of them features a the reference card.

Here's a link showing the muscles of the 7970 when overclock
http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-7970-overclock-...

Not to mention that the 7970 has 3GB of framebuffer whereas the 6990 has only 2GB(dual 2GB gpu in a single card/crossfire is still 2GB) so the 7970 is more suitable for higher upcoming resolutions and multi monitor gaming where you'll need that much memory
a b U Graphics card
March 8, 2012 3:52:17 PM

hellfire24 said:
1 min,first hing 6990 is till DA FASTEST CARD!i never said 7970 is faster.secondly you said that ' for a single card you pay nearly $200 more for a 6990 for a reason. It is faster and performs better ingnoring power consumption, noise etc.'
check this out-
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7970/images/bf3_1280_1...
7970 is beating 6990.i backed up the thing i never said.
i agree in almost every case 6990 is faster but not by a big margin to justify $200.
as for noise,we all know that amd stock cooler=red fan crap!



Ha! I guess you got me with that one. Nothing wrong with a good debate. :) 
a b U Graphics card
March 8, 2012 4:05:23 PM

EzioAs said:
If you ignore all other important points of a video card(power consumption, temperature under load, noise level) and only focus on the performance itself, then there's really no need for other companies to create aftermarket coolers that are more quieter and keep temps low, they can just sell reference cards from AMD.

The reason the 7970 gets my vote is also that there are companies that are creating custom pcb, adding a better cooler and such, thus giving you more option to choose, whereas the 6990 is a dying card and most of them features a the reference card.

Here's a link showing the muscles of the 7970 when overclock
http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-7970-overclock-...

Not to mention that the 7970 has 3GB of framebuffer whereas the 6990 has only 2GB(dual 2GB gpu in a single card/crossfire is still 2GB) so the 7970 is more suitable for higher upcoming resolutions and multi monitor gaming where you'll need that much memory



Running 200MHz over stock is really impressive but at what cost. They are also running the card with the max ammount of overvoltage they can. That is what i said about a highly overclocked 7970 coming close to the 6990. Too bad they don't include the 6990 in the bf3 test. I really didn't read that close to find out if they had a reason for it.
a b U Graphics card
March 8, 2012 4:10:52 PM

Yeah, but still shows the fact that you don't have to pay $150+ more to get 10% more performance. The 7970 is better overall.
a b U Graphics card
March 8, 2012 5:50:49 PM

Value/dollar, I agree the 7970 is better. The difference is a bit more than 10%. At 1920x1080 the bf3 resluts on the tom's review shows roughly a 25% difference, stock for stock. That difference drops to around 15% at 5760x1080 which is where the extra memory comes in handy. In crysis2 the results are the same as you posted which are only 10% at best. Comparing a massive overclock which includes a massive overvoltage, it still falls a bit short of the 6990. Who is really going to want to run their card at that level? Sounds dangerous. I would pay more for a 15 to 25 percent increase in performance at stock clocks eventhough I had to deal with noise,power,temps. But that is my opinion. I bet you also think I am nuts because i am upgrading my i7 965X to an i7 980X. I just want more power eventhough I don't really need it.
March 9, 2012 12:59:45 PM

^ What he said! I agree completely. I don't want to overclock anything. The 6990 beats the 7970..plain and simple. I don't think I've seen one benchmark running 1920 x 1200 resolutions where the 7970 trumps the 6990.

I may not need the extra GPU power, but I still want it :D  Just in case :D 
a b U Graphics card
March 9, 2012 1:19:14 PM

The one thing you need to know is if you are still playing older games that do not support crossfire you may run into some issues. WOW for instance, has terrible crossfire and sli support from what I have just found out. I am guessing that since you are looking at spending a lot of money on a gpu you are playing newer games which I think you will have a hard time finding one that does not support crossfire. Also, a good aftermarket cooler like artic coolings will run a 6990 at 65-68 degrees under full load and the fans are nearly silent running over 80%.
a b U Graphics card
March 9, 2012 1:36:23 PM

w0tness said:
^ What he said! I agree completely. I don't want to overclock anything. The 6990 beats the 7970..plain and simple. I don't think I've seen one benchmark running 1920 x 1200 resolutions where the 7970 trumps the 6990.

I may not need the extra GPU power, but I still want it :D  Just in case :D 


The 6990 is more suitable for 2560x1440 or 2560x1600. Still, if you've made your mind, I won't say anymore.
a b U Graphics card
March 9, 2012 1:50:41 PM

it's like you know you are just looking at the few extra fps and ignoring other important issues.anyway if it's your final choice what can i say.....
March 9, 2012 7:03:18 PM

Well thanks for your inputs none the less. Was informative and I appreciate it! I had the 5970 and never had any problems what so ever. So I guess I trust the dual GPU setup.

Thanks guys
a b U Graphics card
March 10, 2012 3:17:33 AM

ok go with 6990.i have a good advice for you.you should go with aftermarket cooling.accelero TT 6990 is a great coole.other wise you can also setup a single loop to watercool your 6990.i don't like annoying noise and heat.
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