Building a rig for about 600$ have some questions though:X

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Hello,

Budget Range: about $600

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming but not at the BEST settings. I am more looking for a system that will be capable of running games for the next 5-6 years.

Parts Not Required: Mouse, Keyboard, (ultra 650w power supply thought it is 5 years old so might need to be replaced eventually.)I already purchased the Graphics card Radeon 6850 (cost me $140 after rebate)

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: New egg/ tiger Direct

Country: USA

Parts Preferences: AMD is preferred but I really dont have a preference, I need cost efficiency. That being I have become aware of the Intel I5 2400, if there is no comparable processor to this for a lesser price I will settle for it (thought it is pricy.) said I would like a mid size tower.

Overclocking: Maybe but it is not a priority.

SLI or Crossfire: No

Monitor Resolution:at most 1920 × 1080 will probably be what I use.

Additional Comments: I am looking mostly for reliability on the PC. Somewhat ahead of the curve that will last for some time (at least 5 years). I will plan to upgrade but only memory over time, and possibly over clock somewhat but not to the extent that you guys might do.


Potential set ups: (BTW ignore Amazon prices, I do not intend to buy from them.

Basically I am looking at a:

Build #1:
MSI 970A-G45 M board $104
http://www.amazon.com/MSI-Socket-CrossfireX-USB3-0-Motherboard/dp/B005DK33O2/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1336974143&sr=1-1
AMD Phenom II X6 1045T (i might not choose this though because of poor reviews)= $139
http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1724262&CatId=4432

Hard drive= $50 (recommend one?)
and DDR3 1866Ghz memory (8 gigs) = $40 (I have to go back to the store to see I forgot the branding it was generic.)

Chassis= $50
$383 - $60 Comp USA discount.=
$323

Build #2:

intel core i5 2400 = $189
http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7073164&CatId=6988
Hard drive= $50 (recommend one?)
Motherboard= possibly gigabyte GA-H61MA-D3V $70 (maybe)
http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-GA-H61MA-D3V-Intel-Micro-Motherboard/dp/B0079XWO6O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1336970159&sr=8-1
Chassis = $50
DDR3 1866Ghz Memory (8 gigs)= $40 (I have to go back to the store to see I forgot the branding it was generic.)
$399
- the Comp USA June discount of purchases over $100 ($-60)=
$339


With this in mind.
Approximate Purchase Date: June 14 or so


How do you feel about these set ups? Are there alternatives with similar cost. What do you all recommend? Thank you so very much for your help!



Major edit: cleaned up everything to look neater, also added potential builds.
 

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I was eyeballing an Asus today that same one actually but didnt think much of it because I have had a good MSI experiences. however because of so many warnings about them over heating I am glad I wrote Asus down.
 

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What about 1280 x 1024? Would that last?

I looked at your $650 budget I think I can come close to matching it with the card I have. Ty for showing it to me. Is that mother board listed extremely reliable?
 
Should be. I haven't a motherboard just randomly crap out from a company yet so it is. Maybe it might be DOA but that comes along with many other motherboards and it could shipping related. So don't completely blame the manufacturer.

As for 1280x1024 it'll be fine then
 

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So do you think the best build would be this one ?

intel core i5 2400 = $189
Hard drive= $50
Motherboard= possibly gigabyte GA-H61MA-D3V $70 (maybe) (asrock B75m?) or h61?
Chasis = $50
memory= $40
$399

Is there alternate pieces that anyone knows about that may drop the price a bit or is this the best. Can anyone recommend a harddrive?

Thank you all=)
 
Get the i5-2400. It will last a good while for gaming, and should still be viable for 2018 games. (Speculation of course, but consider how a Core2 Duo is still capable of playing many of today's games.)

The HD 6850 will likely need replacing in about 3 years, unless you're okay with playing on low settings at pitiful framerates. (If current trends continue, you'll be on par with decent integrated graphics by 2018.) If you were to buy a $400 GPU like the HD 7950 or GTX 670, you'd probably be able to play games for 6 years. But that's definitely out of your budget range.

Just plan on a $100 GPU upgrade in 3-4 years to keep gaming at decent settings.
 
build
Intel Core i3-2120 Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115077

ASRock Z68 PRO3 GEN3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157279

Crucial Ballistix 4GB 240-Pin DDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148506

Combo deal Thermaltake TR2 W0388RU 600W ATX 12V v2.2 Power Supply + SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6670 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 (free dirt 3)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.924319

Rosewill FUTURE Gaming ATX Mid
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147108

LG DVD Burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136236

Western Digital AV-GP WD3200AUDX 320GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236079

Mushkin Enhanced Chronos MKNSSDCR60GB 2.5" 60GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226247

623.91 before shipping

you could cheap out the case and get it under 600 but good cooling enhances performance and extends life of hardware
 

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The 6850 isn't part of you budget right?

Rosewill Challenger - Great case, cheap, lot's of room. There are a few other good ones at this price if you don't like it. 49.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153

This i5-2500k is an excellent deal if you can get to a microcenter. - 169.99
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0354589

8gb 1600mhz GSKILL Ripjays. - Good ram. - 46.99
[strike]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231421[/strike] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428

Combo ASRock z77 pro4 with crucial 128GB m4 SSD - Good overclocking board, reliable. The SSD will be an awesome addition to your build 224.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.920764

Combo Seagate Barracuda 750GB with Asus dvd burner. 84.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.937007

Hyper 212+ - for ocing. You could this later is suppose. 29.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

Before shipping that comes to (newegg)436.93 + (microcenter)169.99 = 606.92 . Hopefully you don't need windows.

That's about the best you could do with with 6850. It all depends on whether you can get to a microcenter though. Also i doubt comp USA will get you a better price even after their discount.

Also if you wanted it cheaper you could drop the SSD, but an SSD makes using you computer so much nicer.
 

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thank you for your informative reply. Your so helpful!^^

The processor is an amazing price but I cannot drive to a micro center=/. I will ask comp USA to price match it if they can. If not, then I will have to settle for the 2400.

The Roswell is kind of hideous. but I suppose longevity trumps aesthetics. The price is perfect though:). Would this tower be acceptable?

http://www.amazon.com/Raidmax-Tornado-Tower-Gaming-ATX-238WU/dp/B002NGO5NW/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1337027063&sr=8-9

I unfortunately cannot get a solid state drive(yet... maybe next year though.). How much impact does one make?

As for memory, is kingston or corsair a better choice for a simmilar price?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104244

Thank you!!
 

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the gskill ram I linked is the some of the best on newegg. Reliable and well priced. If you want something that looks different, tell me.

A solid state drive makes bootup time insane and speeds up general PC usage (menus are snappier, opening programs is faster, word has shorter lag times, and a bunch of other small things that you never thought could be improved). It also improves loading times for games. Does nothing for fps but it's still strongly recommended.

for cases:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119246
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811108409
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119227
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811108236
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112238
any of those should be half decent. Anything you're looking for in the case? Your idea of a good looking case is very different from mine so it's hard for me to pick one.

the raidmax that you linked is kinda poor quality.
 

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The two cool masters you have sent look amazing. Thank you!:) I really like this one. Very simplistic.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119246

This one is nice too

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119227

You have good taste.

I did not know the memory was the best. I will use them then thank you very much!:D

What would you recommend for power supply? Mine has been 5 years so should i consider replacing it do you think a 500w or 550 PSU would be enough for this set up? Thank you for all your help! It is greatly appreciated=]

For a mid size tower this is shaping up to be a nice PC.

 

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I just listed most of the decent (i.e. functioning) towers on newegg below $70. The kind of look I like is:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139006&Tpk=corsair%20650d
Though I'd buy the antec 300, cut a window, remove the drive trays and paint it all black. $190 for a case is too much. That coolermaster case doesn't look too bad though, one my of my preferred cases at that price point.

The best memory is actually
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147096
but it's out of stock. If you can find it somewhere else at a good price go for it. The reason it's good is the rated wattage. Also it can OC like a beast. Them missing heat spreaders don't actually do anything.

psu:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/334632-28-intel-graphics-card#t2531832
 

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Also I found this G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM at a cheaper price, DDR3 1600 is easily usable correct? its the same branding.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231445&nm_mc=EMC-
IGNEFL051112&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL051112-_-EMC-051112-T-_-DesktopMemory-_-20231445-L04C
is the difference noticeable?
 

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I see. As for power supply. Under the assumption that my Gfx card is upgraded within 3-4 years, will that supply have a problem with it?

Also, is there a motherboard that can achieve this ones stock power without any upgrades, because I truly only plan to overclock a little bit (if at all) and to upgrade the gfx card over time. (I know not very "fun" but income will be tight the next few years so I am looking for something that will carry me until i can just buy something flat out better later.:)) Thank you
 

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for the psu, the antec 430d will accommodate any card with a tdp under around 180W.
That will likely translate into a $200 or less card at any given time (though I'm just guessing at the power trends in GPUs).

For the mobo, you're looking for a cheaper one?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157314
this one isn't a bad price since it's open box:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131783R

Also, h61/67 and b55 can't oc and neither can non-k or x intel cpus (like the i5-2400). GPUs can always oc. refer to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_1155
 
A nice substitute if you're looking for an even cheaper option. Wouldn't suggest that Asrock Pro3 P67 recommended mainly because at the price, just go for Z68 or Z77 Pro3 boards.

As for the cheaper sub.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157315
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236

As for the PSU, the CX430V2 is a nice cheap power supply. The 7850 would run fine on the 430w. So yeah. Cards are using less and less power from the smaller die.
 

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The open box one looks like what I need. This is more of an intermittent computer for the 6 year gap=). With this and the power supply I think I will be set! The memory you gave me is compatible with this, correct? Or should I use the first batch you linked me previously.

I apologize for the 1000 and 1 questions, You have been a ginormous help to me. I appreciate it . Thank you!:)