Building a rig for about 600$ have some questions though:X

Hello,

Budget Range: about $600

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming but not at the BEST settings. I am more looking for a system that will be capable of running games for the next 5-6 years.

Parts Not Required: Mouse, Keyboard, (ultra 650w power supply thought it is 5 years old so might need to be replaced eventually.)I already purchased the Graphics card Radeon 6850 (cost me $140 after rebate)

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: New egg/ tiger Direct

Country: USA

Parts Preferences: AMD is preferred but I really dont have a preference, I need cost efficiency. That being I have become aware of the Intel I5 2400, if there is no comparable processor to this for a lesser price I will settle for it (thought it is pricy.) said I would like a mid size tower.

Overclocking: Maybe but it is not a priority.

SLI or Crossfire: No

Monitor Resolution:at most 1920 × 1080 will probably be what I use.

Additional Comments: I am looking mostly for reliability on the PC. Somewhat ahead of the curve that will last for some time (at least 5 years). I will plan to upgrade but only memory over time, and possibly over clock somewhat but not to the extent that you guys might do.


Potential set ups: (BTW ignore Amazon prices, I do not intend to buy from them.

Basically I am looking at a:

Build #1:
MSI 970A-G45 M board $104
http://www.amazon.com/MSI-Socket-CrossfireX-USB3-0-Motherboard/dp/B005DK33O2/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1336974143&sr=1-1
AMD Phenom II X6 1045T (i might not choose this though because of poor reviews)= $139
http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1724262&CatId=4432

Hard drive= $50 (recommend one?)
and DDR3 1866Ghz memory (8 gigs) = $40 (I have to go back to the store to see I forgot the branding it was generic.)

Chassis= $50
$383 - $60 Comp USA discount.=
$323

Build #2:

intel core i5 2400 = $189
http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7073164&CatId=6988
Hard drive= $50 (recommend one?)
Motherboard= possibly gigabyte GA-H61MA-D3V $70 (maybe)
http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-GA-H61MA-D3V-Intel-Micro-Motherboard/dp/B0079XWO6O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1336970159&sr=8-1
Chassis = $50
DDR3 1866Ghz Memory (8 gigs)= $40 (I have to go back to the store to see I forgot the branding it was generic.)
$399
- the Comp USA June discount of purchases over $100 ($-60)=
$339


With this in mind.
Approximate Purchase Date: June 14 or so


How do you feel about these set ups? Are there alternatives with similar cost. What do you all recommend? Thank you so very much for your help!


Major edit: cleaned up everything to look neater, also added potential builds.
52 answers Last reply
More about building questions though
  1. Please fill this out
    http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261222-31-build-advice

    AMD would be a nice alternate if you plan on restricting yourself to no upgrades along the lines of the CPU and somewhat GPU (though PCI 3.0 vs 2.0 has no huge difference).
    Do you plan on upgrading?
  2. edit: deleted for possible future use.
  3. I would not suggest the MSI boards. I burned up two in 2 weeks. The CPU power chokes on both boards fried.
    Running a960t unlocked to 6 cores @3.4 1.367v running 100% 24/7 folding
    Bought an asus M5A97 and no problems since
  4. Unolocogringo said:
    I would not suggest the MSI boards. I burned up two in 2 weeks. The CPU power chokes on both boards fried.
    Running a960t unlocked to 6 cores @3.4 1.367v running 100% 24/7 folding
    Bought an asus M5A97 and no problems since



    I was eyeballing an Asus today that same one actually but didnt think much of it because I have had a good MSI experiences. however because of so many warnings about them over heating I am glad I wrote Asus down.
  5. bump?
  6. double bump?
  7. On a budget like this at 1080P it's not even close to lasting you 5-6 years. Course this depends on your game. Would go the Intel route, but at this budget. You're going to have to make upgrades along the way. Especially the GPU. Check out my $650 build here.
    http://www.squidoo.com/electronicandmore
    Keep your current PSU save your money.

    The 6850 will not be able to last that long at 1080P however.
  8. aznshinobi said:
    On a budget like this at 1080P it's not even close to lasting you 5-6 years. Course this depends on your game. Would go the Intel route, but at this budget. You're going to have to make upgrades along the way. Especially the GPU. Check out my $650 build here.
    http://www.squidoo.com/electronicandmore
    Keep your current PSU save your money.

    The 6850 will not be able to last that long at 1080P however.


    What about 1280 x 1024? Would that last?

    I looked at your $650 budget I think I can come close to matching it with the card I have. Ty for showing it to me. Is that mother board listed extremely reliable?
  9. Should be. I haven't a motherboard just randomly crap out from a company yet so it is. Maybe it might be DOA but that comes along with many other motherboards and it could shipping related. So don't completely blame the manufacturer.

    As for 1280x1024 it'll be fine then
  10. So do you think the best build would be this one ?

    intel core i5 2400 = $189
    Hard drive= $50
    Motherboard= possibly gigabyte GA-H61MA-D3V $70 (maybe) (asrock B75m?) or h61?
    Chasis = $50
    memory= $40
    $399

    Is there alternate pieces that anyone knows about that may drop the price a bit or is this the best. Can anyone recommend a harddrive?

    Thank you all=)
  11. Get the i5-2400. It will last a good while for gaming, and should still be viable for 2018 games. (Speculation of course, but consider how a Core2 Duo is still capable of playing many of today's games.)

    The HD 6850 will likely need replacing in about 3 years, unless you're okay with playing on low settings at pitiful framerates. (If current trends continue, you'll be on par with decent integrated graphics by 2018.) If you were to buy a $400 GPU like the HD 7950 or GTX 670, you'd probably be able to play games for 6 years. But that's definitely out of your budget range.

    Just plan on a $100 GPU upgrade in 3-4 years to keep gaming at decent settings.
  12. build
    Intel Core i3-2120 Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115077

    ASRock Z68 PRO3 GEN3
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157279

    Crucial Ballistix 4GB 240-Pin DDR3
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148506

    Combo deal Thermaltake TR2 W0388RU 600W ATX 12V v2.2 Power Supply + SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6670 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 (free dirt 3)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.924319

    Rosewill FUTURE Gaming ATX Mid
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147108

    LG DVD Burner
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136236

    Western Digital AV-GP WD3200AUDX 320GB
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236079

    Mushkin Enhanced Chronos MKNSSDCR60GB 2.5" 60GB
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226247

    623.91 before shipping

    you could cheap out the case and get it under 600 but good cooling enhances performance and extends life of hardware
  13. The 6850 isn't part of you budget right?

    Rosewill Challenger - Great case, cheap, lot's of room. There are a few other good ones at this price if you don't like it. 49.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153

    This i5-2500k is an excellent deal if you can get to a microcenter. - 169.99
    http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0354589

    8gb 1600mhz GSKILL Ripjays. - Good ram. - 46.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231421 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428

    Combo ASRock z77 pro4 with crucial 128GB m4 SSD - Good overclocking board, reliable. The SSD will be an awesome addition to your build 224.98
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.920764

    Combo Seagate Barracuda 750GB with Asus dvd burner. 84.98
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.937007

    Hyper 212+ - for ocing. You could this later is suppose. 29.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

    Before shipping that comes to (newegg)436.93 + (microcenter)169.99 = 606.92 . Hopefully you don't need windows.

    That's about the best you could do with with 6850. It all depends on whether you can get to a microcenter though. Also i doubt comp USA will get you a better price even after their discount.

    Also if you wanted it cheaper you could drop the SSD, but an SSD makes using you computer so much nicer.
  14. slicedtoad said:
    The 6850 isn't part of you budget right?

    Rosewill Challenger - Great case, cheap, lot's of room. There are a few other good ones at this price if you don't like it. 49.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153

    This i5-2500k is an excellent deal if you can get to a microcenter. - 169.99
    http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0354589

    8gb 1600mhz GSKILL Ripjays. - Good ram. - 46.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231421

    Combo ASRock z77 pro4 with crucial 128GB m4 SSD - Good overclocking board, reliable. The SSD will be an awesome addition to your build 224.98
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.920764

    Combo Seagate Barracuda 750GB with Asus dvd burner. 84.98
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.937007

    Hyper 212+ - for ocing. You could this later is suppose. 29.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

    Before shipping that comes to (newegg)436.93 + (microcenter)169.99 = 606.92 . Hopefully you don't need windows.

    That's about the best you could do with with 6850. It all depends on whether you can get to a microcenter though. Also i doubt comp USA will get you a better price even after their discount.

    Also if you wanted it cheaper you could drop the SSD, but an SSD makes using you computer so much nicer.


    thank you for your informative reply. Your so helpful!^^

    The processor is an amazing price but I cannot drive to a micro center=/. I will ask comp USA to price match it if they can. If not, then I will have to settle for the 2400.

    The Roswell is kind of hideous. but I suppose longevity trumps aesthetics. The price is perfect though:). Would this tower be acceptable?

    http://www.amazon.com/Raidmax-Tornado-Tower-Gaming-ATX-238WU/dp/B002NGO5NW/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1337027063&sr=8-9

    I unfortunately cannot get a solid state drive(yet... maybe next year though.). How much impact does one make?

    As for memory, is kingston or corsair a better choice for a simmilar price?
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104244

    Thank you!!
  15. wmzer0mw said:
    I unfortunately cannot get a solid state drive(yet... maybe next year though.). How much impact does one make?

    A gigantic impact. Definitely plan on getting one ASAP.
  16. the gskill ram I linked is the some of the best on newegg. Reliable and well priced. If you want something that looks different, tell me.

    A solid state drive makes bootup time insane and speeds up general PC usage (menus are snappier, opening programs is faster, word has shorter lag times, and a bunch of other small things that you never thought could be improved). It also improves loading times for games. Does nothing for fps but it's still strongly recommended.

    for cases:
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119246
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811108409
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119227
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811108236
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112238
    any of those should be half decent. Anything you're looking for in the case? Your idea of a good looking case is very different from mine so it's hard for me to pick one.

    the raidmax that you linked is kinda poor quality.
  17. The two cool masters you have sent look amazing. Thank you!:) I really like this one. Very simplistic.

    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119246

    This one is nice too

    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119227

    You have good taste.

    I did not know the memory was the best. I will use them then thank you very much!:D

    What would you recommend for power supply? Mine has been 5 years so should i consider replacing it do you think a 500w or 550 PSU would be enough for this set up? Thank you for all your help! It is greatly appreciated=]

    For a mid size tower this is shaping up to be a nice PC.
  18. I just listed most of the decent (i.e. functioning) towers on newegg below $70. The kind of look I like is:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139006&Tpk=corsair%20650d
    Though I'd buy the antec 300, cut a window, remove the drive trays and paint it all black. $190 for a case is too much. That coolermaster case doesn't look too bad though, one my of my preferred cases at that price point.

    The best memory is actually
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147096
    but it's out of stock. If you can find it somewhere else at a good price go for it. The reason it's good is the rated wattage. Also it can OC like a beast. Them missing heat spreaders don't actually do anything.

    psu:
    http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/334632-28-intel-graphics-card#t2531832
  19. Also I found this G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM at a cheaper price, DDR3 1600 is easily usable correct? its the same branding.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231445&nm_mc=EMC-
    IGNEFL051112&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL051112-_-EMC-051112-T-_-DesktopMemory-_-20231445-L04C
    is the difference noticeable?
  20. .... i just realised i linked the wrong ram in my list up there. I meant:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314
    or
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428

    The one you linked is has cl8 timings. Technically it's better, but with sandy bridge it's completely irrelevant and there will be no performance gain.
  21. I see. As for power supply. Under the assumption that my Gfx card is upgraded within 3-4 years, will that supply have a problem with it?

    Also, is there a motherboard that can achieve this ones stock power without any upgrades, because I truly only plan to overclock a little bit (if at all) and to upgrade the gfx card over time. (I know not very "fun" but income will be tight the next few years so I am looking for something that will carry me until i can just buy something flat out better later.:)) Thank you
  22. for the psu, the antec 430d will accommodate any card with a tdp under around 180W.
    That will likely translate into a $200 or less card at any given time (though I'm just guessing at the power trends in GPUs).

    For the mobo, you're looking for a cheaper one?
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157314
    this one isn't a bad price since it's open box:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131783R

    Also, h61/67 and b55 can't oc and neither can non-k or x intel cpus (like the i5-2400). GPUs can always oc. refer to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_1155
  23. A nice substitute if you're looking for an even cheaper option. Wouldn't suggest that Asrock Pro3 P67 recommended mainly because at the price, just go for Z68 or Z77 Pro3 boards.

    As for the cheaper sub.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157315
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236

    As for the PSU, the CX430V2 is a nice cheap power supply. The 7850 would run fine on the 430w. So yeah. Cards are using less and less power from the smaller die.
  24. The open box one looks like what I need. This is more of an intermittent computer for the 6 year gap=). With this and the power supply I think I will be set! The memory you gave me is compatible with this, correct? Or should I use the first batch you linked me previously.

    I apologize for the 1000 and 1 questions, You have been a ginormous help to me. I appreciate it . Thank you!:)
  25. Would never go for Open Box. That would be a terrible decision. Open boxes means, in most cases, lost cables or missing things for the motherboard. Mostly the IO shield would be missing. Also, you never know what issues came about, most of the time something came up which is why they returned it...
  26. aznshinobi said:
    Would never go for Open Box. That would be a terrible decision. Open boxes means, in most cases, lost cables or missing things for the motherboard. Mostly the IO shield would be missing. Also, you never know what issues came about, most of the time something came up which is why they returned it...



    Its funny you mention that. I was about to reject the open box just on the reviews. 22% 1 star reviews.. Not something I want to have on me=/
  27. The ASRock H61M-DGS LGA 1155 Intel H61 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard, its fairly cheap, will this work effectively with my processor n set up? How bad is the sacrifice I am making by forsaking the ASRock Z77 Pro4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157296

    also this powersupply is rated 80+ as well http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139028 do you think this would be a good fit (eww rebate D:)

    Assuming I do not plan to up memory past 16 gigs nor change the processor.
  28. Not a great, not a bad PSU. It's fairly inexpensive so... Yeah.

    The DGS I recommended above. You won't be losing much. If you still want Crossfire @ 16x/4x which isn't GREAT but it's still Crossfire. This would be a better option.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157313
    OR
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157314&Tpk=B75%20Pro%203
  29. my experience has always been good with open box but many people don't like them. There is certainly a degree of risk involved.

    The ASRock H61M-DGS LGA 1155 Intel H61 Micro ATX board is a good choice. No USB 3.0 and no SataIII but neither of those are a big deal. Also you're limited to 8GB of ram as you said but once again, no big deal since you shouldn't need any more than that for a while. H61 can't oc so don't get a 'k' series cpu unless it's cheaper.

    The corsair cx PSUs are not bad but the earthwatts are significantly better. If you prefer the look though, then go for it.

    The cx430 can pull 336W on the 12v line. So a 95W cpu will work with up to a 200W GPU (though it would be preferable to have more headroom than 40W). 6850 is 127W so it'd be a great fit.

    The cx600 can pull 480W on the 12v line. So any gpu will work fine. CF 6850s would even work.

    But at that price this would be better:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703035
    Cheaper after you enter the promo code. Also the 12v rail is 456W, nearly the same. And it's modular.

    This is also better than the cx600:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182131
    not modular but otherwise it's great.

    edit:
    and i agree with azn's mobo suggestions. More features at a similiar price. Also crossfire 6850s wouldn't loose much to x4.
  30. for this comp i do not believe I will cross fire at all. Unfortunately money is tight for this period. However after this computer has lived its life I am so going all out on one hell of a crazy powered rig. If you are sure the green psu will handle I will go for it. I was looking for cheapness mostly. I am not very good with PSU so i will trust u on that :D.
  31. That PC&Power is definitely not worth $68. Even the Antec EA650 is about $68, although not modular still. At a budget like this, PSU is nice, but you should've have such a large portion devoted to it.

    I should clarify. The PC&Power PSU is solid, but at the price even after the promo, not quite worth it for only 500w provided.

    As for the PSU options,
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182131
    Even this would be a cheaper, but equally performing option. Modular too. The Hive series is really solid from Rosewill honestly. The constant stereotype of Rosewill PSUs being bad should end with Capstone and Hive. The Green series wasn't even that bad.
  32. Oh, its fine I expected about 60 or so for the power supply I simply was not aware of the specifics for power supplies. I am looking for a good balance between. What is a modular power supply though if you do not mind me asking?

    Also Comparing the Earthwatts to this modular one. Which power supply do you both think would suit this set better. Keep in mind that this PC will see very very limited over clocking and very limited upgrades. I am not looking for maximum potential but more something that will play well until I make a much bigger jump 5-6 years from now when the economy is not so tight:)
  33. just means that excess cables can be detached (or more accurately, you attach the cables you need). Helps with clutter inside your case.

    azn, about hive vs the silencer. Same price, same 12v rail limit, both modular. The hive is made by Sirtec while the silencer is a Seasonic S12II. Edge goes to the silencer unless the prices are different. Of course both are good PSUs though.
    http://www.anandtech.com/show/5674/rosewill-hive-550w/6
    that is a review of the hive. The conclusion states specifically that the S12II is slightly better.
    Anyway, not really important.

    The antec 430d will work fine. So would the cx430.
  34. Yeah, Sirtec is fine though honestly. The Hive is cheaper also. So that's just something to keep in mind. I mean I understand the point of the PC Power & Cooling but price sometimes doesn't allow.

    But yes, the CX430 would be fine, the 430D is also fine. Just whichever is the cheaper one.
  35. Alright! I cant contain my self, I plan to buy the parts today:D.

    My lovely chassis
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119246

    430w power supply
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371034

    my memory
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314

    the mobo
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157315

    the beast of value processing:D
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074

    my HDD and burner combo
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.937007


    This looks good,:D, if I am satisfied after mid day today I will buy all of it:). I will let you guys know how it runs in 2 days when all pieces arrive!

    Do either of you have anything left you might want to add? Lemme know you 2 have been so damn helpful its too bad i cant select 2 best answers.
  36. Nice - let us know how that mobo and cpu work together. They're both in my wishlist now :)
  37. update- It appears the earthen power supply is out of stock=(. I will have to get the alternative one sadly:( I hate rebates X.x

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026
  38. Great job with with the selection. Looks really solid. Nice find on the HDD/
  39. yup. can't see anything i'd change.
  40. On that mobo, your DDR3-1600 will run at 1333MHz with the i5-2400. You could save $5 and get the DDR3-1333 Ripjaws, or you could spend $10 more and get the Ivy Bridge i5-3450.

    I'd advise the $10 more. You'll get your money's worth of a performance boost.
  41. jessterman21 said:
    On that mobo, your DDR3-1600 will run at 1333MHz with the i5-2400. You could save $5 and get the DDR3-1333 Ripjaws, or you could spend $10 more and get the Ivy Bridge i5-3450.

    I'd advise the $10 more. You'll get your money's worth of a performance boost.


    :p when you posted that my order cleared so it is a little late unfortunately.

    Update BTW: My pc pieces finally came in today. Tonight or tomorrow morning I plan to put it together, WISH Me luck!:D
  42. OK new update guys:

    It took a bit of work but I got the computer up and running. Heck I am using it now (It is so quiet:P).
    It was actually a quite a bit harder than it should have been I attribute that to the mother board. The thing is was a bit of a pain all the way through the installation process (course that could have been just me.)

    To those using this MoBO, dont bother reading the manual it doesn't really tell you anything (I did like 10 times). Trial and error and some internet homework worked for me.

    I got windows 7 up and running and the comp runs games like a dream:). (I will get some pictures up soon.) The comp is so troll. Its sooooooooo tiny for this chassis :P.

    However I do have one issue. Whenever I try to run any resolution beyond the native 1280x768 the screen blacks out n simply refuses to run it. Why is that?

    Starcraft 2 also wont load the image at all! I know the game is working i can hear it and click on stuff. I am sure these 2 issues are related, how would I fix this? (my drivers are up to date)

    starcraft 2 did not have this problem in my old computer (same card same monitor.)
  43. video drivers?
    assuming you have 64 bit win7 go to http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonaiw_vista64.aspx and download the "Catalyst Software Suite". Run it, follow the instructions (it will download something then install something), restart when prompted and then try your games.
  44. Remember you have to set the default output to the HDMI or whatever is hooked to your GPU. IB/SB has a tendency to switch outputs to your CPU instead since it has an iGPU.

    If all else I'd try doing another full driver re-install? Clean the leftover drivers and install the new ones, only if the prior method failed.
    http://www.overclock.net/t/651378/how-to-install-drivers-and-use-driver-sweeper
  45. aznshinobi said:
    Remember you have to set the default output to the HDMI or whatever is hooked to your GPU. IB/SB has a tendency to switch outputs to your CPU instead since it has an iGPU.

    If all else I'd try doing another full driver re-install? Clean the leftover drivers and install the new ones, only if the prior method failed.
    http://www.overclock.net/t/651378/how-to-install-drivers-and-use-driver-sweeper



    Ya u were correct, apparently since my specs are way better than before, Starcraft set its default to 1600x900 (some high res like this) so it would only run in HD. My old comp was not good enough for that lol:P. Thx for the help:)
  46. Starcraft should run on ultra or high @ 1920x1080. Custom game performance will vary since map creators don't like optimization. If you have a 1920x1080 monitor, use the full resolution, don't play at 1600x900.
  47. slicedtoad said:
    Starcraft should run on ultra or high @ 1920x1080. Custom game performance will vary since map creators don't like optimization. If you have a 1920x1080 monitor, use the full resolution, don't play at 1600x900.



    I have tried this but there seems to be a positive correlation between an increase in resolution and the amount of strain on my eyes. At 1920x1080 I can only look at a screen for a short time before it hurts :x.Sc2 looks amazing in HD though:P totally cool. Sonic generations as well:D
  48. Glad we could help.
  49. wmzer0mw said:
    I have tried this but there seems to be a positive correlation between an increase in resolution and the amount of strain on my eyes. At 1920x1080 I can only look at a screen for a short time before it hurts :x.Sc2 looks amazing in HD though:P totally cool. Sonic generations as well:D


    ... 1920x1080 shouldn't strain your eyes for any reason I can think of. Try playing with the settings on your monitor. Also make sure you are still getting above 40fps. For SCII, fps can be seen with ctrl-alt-f. I suppose low fps could cause eye strain.
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