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May 15, 2012 8:25:26 AM


Budget Range: around $1500

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, internet, programming (student), engineering programs (student), movies

Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: whatever is the cheapest

Country: USA

Parts Preferences: NVIDA for blizzard games mainly

Overclocking: probably slight overlock to around 4 GHz

SLI or Crossfire: maybe in the future

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080 (maybe duel monitors in the future)

Additional Comments: Would like to keep it relatively quiet (hence the case), but want to make sure to future proof it for at least 3 or so years. Would like to be able to play games on max setting with 60+ fps.

1) Trying to decide between the GTX 680 and 670 for graphics cards, and if so to get an OCed one or not.
2) Curious if my PSU would be enough if I decide to SLI in the future. There is a package deal for an 800W with my case for an extra $20 or so.
3) Is there another choice for an SSD that is just as reliable as the sumsumg 830?
4) Is my HDD alright, seems pretty cheap for 3TB, which is why I picked it.
5) Would you recommend any other memory? It was the best I could find for the money.

Here is the link to my build.

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx...

Thanks in advance,
Alex
May 15, 2012 8:34:57 AM

I would probably drop the RAM down to 8GB (plenty for gaming) and pick up a Crucial M4 256GB SSD or even the 128GB. I recommend G.Skill ram so you're fine there, but you don't need 16GB
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May 15, 2012 8:35:52 AM

I am also attempting my first build so I am curious about some of the answers to your questions.

One thing I can recommend though is to go for a higher PSU if you want to SLI in the future. I believe the minimum for the GTX 670 is 500w. So 620w might not be enough if you are doing any OC or SLI.

Good luck!
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May 15, 2012 8:44:03 AM

excellent choose! don't change anything everything is just rocking... even 16gb ram will help you when you're doing some image work,adobe etc.
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May 15, 2012 10:19:34 AM

hopz said:
Budget Range: around $1500

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, internet, programming (student), engineering programs (student), movies

Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: whatever is the cheapest

Country: USA

Parts Preferences: NVIDA for blizzard games mainly

Overclocking: probably slight overlock to around 4 GHz

SLI or Crossfire: maybe in the future

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080 (maybe duel monitors in the future)

Additional Comments: Would like to keep it relatively quiet (hence the case), but want to make sure to future proof it for at least 3 or so years. Would like to be able to play games on max setting with 60+ fps.

1) Trying to decide between the GTX 680 and 670 for graphics cards, and if so to get an OCed one or not.
2) Curious if my PSU would be enough if I decide to SLI in the future. There is a package deal for an 800W with my case for an extra $20 or so.
3) Is there another choice for an SSD that is just as reliable as the sumsumg 830?
4) Is my HDD alright, seems pretty cheap for 3TB, which is why I picked it.
5) Would you recommend any other memory? It was the best I could find for the money.

Here is the link to my build.

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx...

Thanks in advance,
Alex


you made some great choices but i would suggest the following changes-
-the case is cool but i would suggest something cheaper so that you can get better core components.400r,500r,phantom etc all are great cases for their price tag.
phantom 410-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
400r-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
500r-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-for motherboard,step up to z77-ud3h-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
solid board and great overclcoker,
-for power supply,add 10 bucks saved from case to get the 750w version-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
solid performer and will leave plenty of room for overclocking and 670 SLi.
-for ssd,mushkin enhanced chronos 240gb ssd for $210 is a steal-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-you don't need 16gb for gaming and other daily stuff,8gb is more than enough,i would suggest this low profile ram(no clearance issues and heasinks are useless)-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-the hdd you selected is not a very reliable drive,better go with f4 2tb for $120-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-if you are getting phantom then add this 200mm fan on top for better ventilation-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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May 15, 2012 10:52:14 AM

Hellfire,

As for the case, I like the looks of the 500r better, the 550D just has all the sound dampening which drew me to it.

Why is the mother you board suggest better? They are both Z77. (sorry don't know too much about mother boards)

The mushkin ssd looks like a great deal, never heard about it before. Just have been recommended the Samsung a lot.

As for the HDD, the one you suggested has SATA 3.0Gb/s, versus the SATA 6.0Gb/s. Does that make much of a difference? and the 32MB Cache versus the 64MB Cache.
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May 15, 2012 12:07:22 PM

I also want to have my computer build by June 15th, do you have any idea one when I should start ordering? I am mainly worried about the GTX 670, if I should just wait for them to restock, or order whenever I can?
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May 15, 2012 1:05:53 PM

for motherboards,gigabyte>asrock.the board i suggested has advance overclocking features(uefi bios and other stuff),my vote goes to gigabyte.mushkin products are mostly of top notch quality.don't care about speeds of hdd,for speed you have SSD.
i would suggest ordering a week before.
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May 15, 2012 10:54:19 PM

K thanks, I'll switch out those boards then. Want to be able to overclock to around 4 or 4.2GHz. Then I'll take another look at that HDD, would say that 240GB is needed for OS/Games/Office/then most programs? I keep hearing mixed reviews on it.
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May 15, 2012 11:18:54 PM

Does low profile RAM really make a difference? And if I get 8GB now, it's easy to upgrade very needed right?
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May 16, 2012 12:22:43 AM

You don't need 240GB but might as well if you have the budget. If you don't you can always use MKLINK /J <destination> <target> command to point to files on your harddrive too. Low profile RAM just means its easier to find an aftermarket CPU cooler that won't interfere. Yes 8GB is easily upgraded later. Make sure you get 2x4GB. You will be plenty happy with 8GB.
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May 16, 2012 1:02:17 AM

hopz said:
Budget Range: around $1500

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, internet, programming (student), engineering programs (student), movies

Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: whatever is the cheapest

Country: USA

Parts Preferences: NVIDA for blizzard games mainly

Overclocking: probably slight overlock to around 4 GHz

SLI or Crossfire: maybe in the future

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080 (maybe duel monitors in the future)

Additional Comments: Would like to keep it relatively quiet (hence the case), but want to make sure to future proof it for at least 3 or so years. Would like to be able to play games on max setting with 60+ fps.

1) Trying to decide between the GTX 680 and 670 for graphics cards, and if so to get an OCed one or not.
2) Curious if my PSU would be enough if I decide to SLI in the future. There is a package deal for an 800W with my case for an extra $20 or so.
3) Is there another choice for an SSD that is just as reliable as the sumsumg 830?
4) Is my HDD alright, seems pretty cheap for 3TB, which is why I picked it.
5) Would you recommend any other memory? It was the best I could find for the money.

Here is the link to my build.

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx...

Thanks in advance,
Alex

That case is a hot box...check the reviews, 16GB is total over kill and then some, and 620w psu leaves you no option to add another one of those cards later on.

Here's a copy and paste from a build I posted earlier today to see what your budget can get you.


http://www.anandtech.com/show/5818/nvidia-geforce-gtx-6... <----- gtx 670 review with benchmarks

http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=71107&vpn=GV-N670OC-2G... $399.99 Free Shipping
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 OC 980MHZ 2GB 6.0GHZ GDDR5 2xDVI HDMI DisplayPort PCI-E Video Card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $109.99 - $89.99 after mail-in rebate card FREE SHIPPING 15% off w/ promo code PCPMK15OFF, ends 5/21
PC Power and Cooling Silencer Mk II 750W High Performance 80PLUS Silver SLI CrossFire ready Power Supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $209.98 save: $20.00 $15 off w/ promo code EMCNEJE47, ends 5/21
ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-3570K-Processor-BX8063... $228.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Intel Core i5 3570K Processor 3.4 4 BX80637I53570K

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $34.99 FREE SHIPPING
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel 2011/1366/1155 and AMD FM1/AM3+

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $46.99 FREE SHIPPING
G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9D-8GAB

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $17.99 Free shipping w/ promo code EMCNEJJ24, ends 5/17
LITE-ON DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $209.99 FREE SHIPPING
Mushkin Enhanced Chronos MKNSSDCR240GB 2.5" 240GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

Total: $1,257.92 *not including shipping, rebates, and promo codes


http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Carbide-Tower-Gaming-CC-9... $116.16 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Corsair Carbide Series 500R Mid Tower Gaming Case CC-9011012-WW

http://www.corsair.com/carbide-series-500r-mid-tower-ca... <----- another look at that case

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Carbide-Tower-Gaming-Comp... $99.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Corsair Carbide Series 400R Mid Tower Gaming Computer Case - CC-9011011-WW

http://www.corsair.com/pc-cases/carbide-series-pc-case/... <---- another look at that case
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May 16, 2012 1:04:05 AM

hellfire24 said:
for motherboards,gigabyte>asrock.the board i suggested has advance overclocking features(uefi bios and other stuff),my vote goes to gigabyte.mushkin products are mostly of top notch quality.don't care about speeds of hdd,for speed you have SSD.
i would suggest ordering a week before.

Gigabyte didn't get UEFI bios until this year, Asrock has had them for years now. In the reviews Iv'e seen so far with the Z77 boards, Asrock boards have beaten the Gigabyte boards in over clocking.

http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/asrock_z77_extreme... <---- This is that Asrock z77 extreme4 up there in a review with benchmarks.
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May 16, 2012 1:12:38 AM

cool thanks, I'll switch to the 8Gb low profile then.
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May 16, 2012 1:24:59 AM

Hiya,

As for the case, I really like the 500r, just have been worried about the noise, would like a quiet rig. Thats why I switched to the 550D. Saw it ran a little hotter, but was going to put in an a bottom fan in order not to loose any of the sound dampening.

I'll switch back to the Asrock for the board. And will get a bigger PSU either 750 or 800W, right now the 800W is cheaper with the 550D.

Do you know any HDD that is reliable and is 2TB-3TB. Not 100% on the one I have right now.

And would is the SDD you posted, the muskin better then the Samsung? saw the 830's price dropped down some. So not sure now what to do.
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May 16, 2012 1:32:30 AM

hopz said:
Hiya,

As for the case, I really like the 500r, just have been worried about the noise, would like a quiet rig. Thats why I switched to the 550D. Saw it ran a little hotter, but was going to put in an a bottom fan in order not to loose any of the sound dampening.

I'll switch back to the Asrock for the board. And will get a bigger PSU either 750 or 800W, right now the 800W is cheaper with the 550D.

Do you know any HDD that is reliable and is 2TB-3TB. Not 100% on the one I have right now.

And would is the SDD you posted, the muskin better then the Samsung? saw the 830's price dropped down some. So not sure now what to do.

That Asrock board up there combo's with 1TB, 2TB, and 3TB Seagate drives, just make sure you get the new revised Seagate drives ...that's the one with the 64mb cache.

If the 800w psu is the Corsair 800w then skip that one all together it's junk. It's manufactured by Sirtec for Corsair and it's an over priced door stop. Seasonic manufactures the TX/HX/AX line of Corsair psu's and those are the good ones. Seasonic, XFX (Seasonic OEM), Corsair AX/HX/AX (Seasonic OEM's), PC Power & Cooling, Antec, Silverstone, Enermax, LEPA (Enermax OEM)...those are the psu's too look at.
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May 16, 2012 1:39:11 AM

Good to know, I'll look at those combos and I'll double check the PSU.

As for the case, do you think the additional bottom fan would help with the cool? Or would you strongly suggest another case? If so, do you know how loud the 500r tends to be?
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May 16, 2012 2:21:12 AM


The 500R has the best thermals of all the Corsair cases. It was Bjorn or Legit Reviews that did the testing for all the Corsair cases and the 500R was top dog with the 400R coming in second.

The 240GB SSD hands down. They key to SSD's and motherboards is updating the bios for your motherboard and downloading any updates on the SSD (firmware). Asrock just released new bios updates (fixes) for most all their z77 boards as has Asus. I don't now about Gigabyte and MSI but I'm sure they have also. Just make sure you flash to the latest bios and update the firmware for your SSD.

Another nice case...but it's spendy with the shipping is the new Cooler Master that just came out a few weeks ago.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... <---- that case. you might find it cheaper on amazon

http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=6821 <----- there's another look at that case along with links to reviews done on the net
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May 16, 2012 3:11:34 AM

Awesome thank you. I'll switch out those SSDs then. And I'll take a look at cases again. Thanks for the help
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May 16, 2012 9:21:49 PM

hellfire24 said:
:lol:  :lol: 

I didn't mean that link in a sarcastic way. I don't think too many people have that case yet seeing how it just got released on the market.
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May 16, 2012 10:38:39 PM

Haha yeah, I read a ton of reviews off google, read all the first couple pages of reviews off google. But all from different sights, they all pretty much say the same thing. The fan seems pretty quiet, good cooling, great case, only flaw is the air filter under the power supply. Was just curious if anyone had any personal experience lol.
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May 17, 2012 4:14:48 AM

coolermaster is a very well known brand for quality cases and their 'HAF series' is great.i hope it works great for you.
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May 17, 2012 4:37:10 AM

Awesome, thanks for all the help.
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May 18, 2012 1:47:35 AM

Best answer selected by Hopz.
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